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post Jul 26 2010, 8:27 pm
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Dear Nick,

I’ve debated writing this, mainly because I struggle to put into words the effect your posts have on me. Yet, here I am feeling the need to put some words to paper – so I will give it a go.

There were a few days a week or so ago, where your presence was notably absent – and in reading the boards I felt an odd sense of what some might construe as peace, a sense of healing even. Reading the posts folks were making about Chad’s blog, I found myself starting to “forgive” Ed (for a lack of a better word). The hardness in my heart started to thaw. Geez, I even debated maybe downloading a few of the songs from Alive that folks here seem to agree were among the best from the album. I do truly adore Ed’s voice- and I have missed it – and I’ve found listening to the old stuff painful. After reading Chad’s words, I listened to my favorite Live album – SS – refreshed and anew.

Were there still EK vs. TGF debates and discussions going on, absolutely- and as tough as before. BUT - to my amazement, I could read the debates rationally without some bizarre feeling of anger creeping in.

And now you are back. And in reading the discussion threads that you’ve been posting in, there came back that old icky feeling. Your blind devotion to Ed and your inability to honestly critique him (or TGF for that matter) is infuriating to watch. I found myself thinking, “WTF was I thinking of downloading some of Alive? No way” no.gif

Go ahead and argue all you want with this post – nothing you can say will change the way I feel. At the end of the day, all I want to accomplish in this “letter” to you is make one point, or rather pose one question to you.

Has it ever dawned on you that you might be doing Ed more harm than good? That the negative emotions you manage to evoke here might very well be transferred to one’s feelings about Ed? And if so, how can that possibly be good for “marketing?”

Ok. That is all, and I truly feel like a tool for writing this – peace out.


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post Jul 27 2010, 7:53 pm
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Not that I agree with Nick all the time, but all the Nick haters (and supporters) here sound fanatical and have been making way too big a deal. I haven't noticed anyone crying about him before the breakup. He probably wouldn't have been a blip on a lot of peoples radar if there wasn't a gigantic rash of ridiculous Ed hating assumptions after Chad's first letter. Who cares

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post Jul 28 2010, 6:17 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jul 27 2010, 8:53 pm) *

Not that I agree with Nick all the time, but all the Nick haters (and supporters) here sound fanatical and have been making way too big a deal. I haven't noticed anyone crying about him before the breakup. He probably wouldn't have been a blip on a lot of peoples radar if there wasn't a gigantic rash of ridiculous Ed hating assumptions after Chad's first letter. Who cares


I DO.

the original intent of my letter to nick was simple. to communicate to nick that he does indeed push certain people's buttons- call em/me fanatical or whatever, i dont care --- and that his behavior pisses some people off and that annoyance is transfered to Ed, and how can that be good for Ed?

it became ever clear that this was what was going on for ME when Nick disappeared for a few days, and i found the intensely negative feelings towards Ed (hate is not a nice word!) softening a bit - only to have it return when Nick returned with his fanboy posts. I'm not the only one who noticed this (Pokey, me thinks said the same thing)..

ALSO- it became incredibly difficult to process Chad's first blog post on Ed, with Nick spouting off- never thought of it before, but its possible that "rash of ridiculous Ed hating assumptions" were exacerbated because of Nick insistence that Ed can do no wrong.. and his out right refusal to acknowledge the emotional hurt Chad talked about.. in fact Nick's comments on Chad typically focused on diminishing his credibility ("grain of salt" comments stick in my head)..










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QUOTE(VoodooLady @ Jul 28 2010, 6:17 am) *


I DO.

the original intent of my letter to nick was simple. to communicate to nick that he does indeed push certain people's buttons- call em/me fanatical or whatever, i dont care --- and that his behavior pisses some people off and that annoyance is transfered to Ed, and how can that be good for Ed?

it became ever clear that this was what was going on for ME when Nick disappeared for a few days, and i found the intensely negative feelings towards Ed (hate is not a nice word!) softening a bit - only to have it return when Nick returned with his fanboy posts. I'm not the only one who noticed this (Pokey, me thinks said the same thing)..

ALSO- it became incredibly difficult to process Chad's first blog post on Ed, with Nick spouting off- never thought of it before, but its possible that "rash of ridiculous Ed hating assumptions" were exacerbated because of Nick insistence that Ed can do no wrong.. and his out right refusal to acknowledge the emotional hurt Chad talked about.. in fact Nick's comments on Chad typically focused on diminishing his credibility ("grain of salt" comments stick in my head)..



its just one guys opinion and you're way to into it


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post Jul 28 2010, 2:01 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jul 28 2010, 2:31 pm) *

its just one guys opinion and you're way to into it


sure... whatever, and my "way into" opinion carries buying power (or not).

as in i'm not giving ed a fucking penny.


and - i wont promote Ed's album to my sister, also a live fan - who most certainly would have bought ALIVE if i shared something positive with her about it.. so there you have it, 2 sales out the window..

THAT was the point of the post. That nick's posts are a big turnoff for some people and that negativity maybe transfered to Ed and that is not good for marketing.



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VoodooLady   My OPEN letter to Nick   Jul 26 2010, 8:27 pm
Existentialist   Dear Nick, I’ve debated writing this, mainly bec...   Jul 26 2010, 8:36 pm
SJN1279   Please, Nick, SHUT THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOWN!...   Jul 26 2010, 9:58 pm
OutToDry   Yeah do tell us why you're no longer posting f...   Jul 26 2010, 8:58 pm
swami   substance Alcohol.   Jul 26 2010, 9:26 pm
Deku   Yeah do tell us why you're no longer posting ...   Jul 27 2010, 5:50 am
SJN1279   I noticed Nick wasn't posting for Ed. Interes...   Jul 27 2010, 8:44 am
Deku   I'm still a moderator on his Facebook page, a...   Jul 27 2010, 12:05 pm
swami   Ok. That is all, and I truly feel like a tool for...   Jul 26 2010, 9:25 pm
OutToDry   Send me some of that rickards white.   Jul 26 2010, 9:30 pm
swami   Send me some of that rickards white. Rum'n...   Jul 26 2010, 9:36 pm
OutToDry   speaking of customs......do they need some hand ho...   Jul 26 2010, 9:40 pm
swami   speaking of customs......do they need some hand h...   Jul 26 2010, 9:48 pm
OutToDry   Door # 1 LOL :D   Jul 26 2010, 9:55 pm
swami   Door # 1 LOL :D Figured as much. I did toss a...   Jul 26 2010, 10:08 pm
OutToDry   I know it takes a little bit of time now a days. ...   Jul 26 2010, 10:09 pm
swami   I know it takes a little bit of time now a days. ...   Jul 26 2010, 10:25 pm
OutToDry   Thanks but no thanks LOL...... :D   Jul 26 2010, 10:27 pm
Pokey   It's funny you mentioned that, with Nick's...   Jul 27 2010, 12:35 am
Badman   This is why I've repeatedly said it's a...   Jul 27 2010, 1:11 pm
SJN1279   Nick, Respond to this. It is the single most imp...   Jul 27 2010, 1:25 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   So I am a fan of Live, but Ed is clearly my favor...   Jul 27 2010, 1:29 pm
SJN1279   You sound like one of those teeny bopper Twilight...   Jul 27 2010, 1:35 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I was asked my opinion. I actually like Ed's...   Jul 27 2010, 1:39 pm
Pokey   I was asked my opinion. I actually like Ed's...   Jul 28 2010, 2:42 am
sh4rpz   You were honest with your response which was good...   Jul 28 2010, 7:31 am
+Ed+   You sound like one of those teeny bopper Twilight...   Jul 27 2010, 1:45 pm
sh4rpz   http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1007/0e/eb7798d19002.j...   Jul 28 2010, 12:58 am
crazy1   http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1007/0e/eb7798d19002.j...   Jul 28 2010, 11:22 am
VoodooLady   I have nothing useful to contribute so...to the a...   Jul 28 2010, 1:40 pm
OutToDry   I was a fan of Live since 1995. The first time ...   Jul 27 2010, 2:09 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   I can listen to any track off of any of Live...   Jul 27 2010, 2:44 pm
Badman   I can listen to any track off of any of Live...   Jul 28 2010, 12:24 pm
Pokey   You flying liar! The least you could have do...   Jul 28 2010, 12:36 pm
+Ed+   Has it ever dawned on you that you might be doing...   Jul 27 2010, 1:40 am
sh4rpz   Some may think that we are absolute tools that do...   Jul 27 2010, 5:00 am
+Ed+   How can a great guy be a die-hard fan of Hulk Hoga...   Jul 27 2010, 5:11 am
OutToDry   Thanks Pokey. Simply yes, about the music. Th...   Jul 27 2010, 5:32 am
swami   What's with the Nick obsession anyway? It see...   Jul 27 2010, 6:06 am
Pokey   What's with the Nick obsession anyway? It se...   Jul 27 2010, 6:36 am
VoodooLady   Also, this is why "Ned" was coined, the...   Jul 27 2010, 6:43 am
Wambangalang   its like the evolution, revolution love video, whe...   Jul 27 2010, 6:42 am
Aitkens   Nick frustrates for the same reasons he bugs every...   Jul 27 2010, 8:55 am
icewaterike   I'd like to come to Nick's (and everyone...   Jul 27 2010, 1:38 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   However, regardless of whether you agree with wha...   Jul 27 2010, 2:47 pm
+Ed+   Ike, with all due respect, Nick is simply being ta...   Jul 27 2010, 1:46 pm
Aitkens   Ed could record himself taking a shit, and you wou...   Jul 27 2010, 2:18 pm
deepenoughtodive   And Ed could save a hundred orphans from a burning...   Jul 27 2010, 3:16 pm
Sakhmet2   Not that I agree with Nick all the time, but all ...   Jul 27 2010, 9:15 pm
Bremang   Nick has fanatical supporters? A few people st...   Jul 27 2010, 11:50 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   yea i agree for the most part When the people a...   Jul 28 2010, 10:48 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Nick has fanatical supporters? A few people ste...   Jul 28 2010, 10:46 am
Bremang   Well what the fuck do you expect to happen when...   Jul 28 2010, 1:45 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   well, i'd love to see if somebody can pull to...   Jul 28 2010, 1:48 pm
Bremang   Sorry, I've already played this game with y...   Jul 28 2010, 1:57 pm
Hoodstock   Nick has fanatical supporters? A few people ste...   Jul 28 2010, 1:04 pm
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