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Ok, guys, not to flood Ray's topic, let's discuss workouts right here and maybe Ex will be able to give us all some advice.

I need some badly. Used to be a professional vollyball player, but after aninjury and fucked up doctors had to give up

used to be playing football each week, but now I hardly have any time to do that.

I need to shape myself a bit up. With my 198 height I weigh only 80 kgs. And feel vry well.

Is there any possibility of a workout for me?



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Cross posted from Ray's thread:

Maybe Ex has some tips on this, i've put on a bit of weight around the mid section recently. I used to go to the gym semi-regularly, always been on the skinny side. Bulked up a little in upper body, would like to continue to do so but more concerned about my belly.
Main problem that's come up is a combo of the shitty job I have long hours constantly sitting, but the main thing is when I do cardio stuff now I'm giving up due to pain in my knees before I'm getting exhausted so I'm not getting proper work outs in. I've done treadmil, air walkers and bike in the gym. The air walker is supposed to be the easy one on your knees but I've found that's actually been the most painful. The bike is by far the least painful, but even with a high level and a good 30min or so work out on it it just doesn't feel like it's doing anything .. building good leg strength but not losing the weight where I want it.

The pain in my knees is annoying because no one can quite give me a straight answer as to where it's coming from, I've had medical professionals tell me it's starting from my feet, others say from my hips. They're shit knees, and for me to stand with them facing straight I cant stand with my feet together, my feet have to be at an outward pointed angle. Standing with my feet together is painful on my knees.

Very frustrating when you want to work out and it puts you off. I've just been focusing more on my upper body and weights instead because theres no trouble there.
Also what sort of diet type would you reccomend for the absolute fastest loss of belly weight? Would like to lose a bit before I hit America. It sort of just came up out of the blue because I've been so skinny my life.


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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 8 2010, 1:59 pm) *

Cross posted from Ray's thread:

Maybe Ex has some tips on this, i've put on a bit of weight around the mid section recently. I used to go to the gym semi-regularly, always been on the skinny side. Bulked up a little in upper body, would like to continue to do so but more concerned about my belly.
Main problem that's come up is a combo of the shitty job I have long hours constantly sitting, but the main thing is when I do cardio stuff now I'm giving up due to pain in my knees before I'm getting exhausted so I'm not getting proper work outs in. I've done treadmil, air walkers and bike in the gym. The air walker is supposed to be the easy one on your knees but I've found that's actually been the most painful. The bike is by far the least painful, but even with a high level and a good 30min or so work out on it it just doesn't feel like it's doing anything .. building good leg strength but not losing the weight where I want it.

The pain in my knees is annoying because no one can quite give me a straight answer as to where it's coming from, I've had medical professionals tell me it's starting from my feet, others say from my hips. They're shit knees, and for me to stand with them facing straight I cant stand with my feet together, my feet have to be at an outward pointed angle. Standing with my feet together is painful on my knees.

Very frustrating when you want to work out and it puts you off. I've just been focusing more on my upper body and weights instead because theres no trouble there.
Also what sort of diet type would you reccomend for the absolute fastest loss of belly weight? Would like to lose a bit before I hit America. It sort of just came up out of the blue because I've been so skinny my life.


I can't really comment on the knee pain without seeing you and even then I am not great at orthopaedic cases. To lose the belly fat, you have to lose weight overall. You can't "spot reduce" without lipo and unfortunately in people who concentrate fat storage in their abdomen, to lose the belly means to look like a stick everywhere else. However, you can get it down to a reasonable level following a low calorie diet that is well balanced and sticking to the exercise. There is no one diet that is better than another.

That said, if the goal is to lose as much belly fat as possible in a short amount of time, without regard to the long term goals, there is a best diet and that is Atkins without question. I have done the diet and seen lots of others do it, and if done right, a man under 40 can lose as much as 15 pounds in 2 weeks. If you do it right, which is hard to do, you will notice a very dramatic difference in those 2 weeks. Unfortunately, for reasons that are too difficult to explain here, this weight will eventually return, even without overeating, unless you continue to diet off and on.

To do Atkins right, you have to keep under 20 net carbs per day. This is a must. The diet is not calorie restricting and relies solely on putting your body in ketoacidosis to lose the weight. If you fuck up and eat more than the 20 net carbs, you will not go into ketoacidosis and you will not be calorie restricting, and could easily gain weight. It's a fine line. For reasons I don't know, stay away from products that contain artificial sweeteners because even though these are technically low or zero carbs, they fuck up the process. If it tastes sweet, do not eat it. Stick only to green leafy vegetables, eggs, and meat of any variety. No sauces except mustard or blue cheese dressing. No drinks except water. This is extremely hard to keep up for more than a few days, as you will inevitably start craving sweets even if you don't normally. However, if you do it right and can maintain it for 14 days, as I said above, you will see a dramatic difference quickly before your trip.


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+Ed+   Working out   Jul 8 2010, 12:41 pm
Bremang   Cross posted from Ray's thread: The pain in ...   Jul 10 2010, 3:07 pm
Pokey   *Lots of advice* Cheers for this dude, apprecia...   Jul 10 2010, 3:46 pm
Bremang   Cheers for this dude, appreciated. It's st...   Jul 10 2010, 4:38 pm
+Ed+   What's a sit-up, E?   Jul 8 2010, 1:08 pm
Pokey   What's a sit-up, E? umm like doing crunches...   Jul 8 2010, 1:11 pm
+Ed+   Aw, I thought it was something with sitting down a...   Jul 8 2010, 1:16 pm
Pokey   Aw, I thought it was something with sitting down ...   Jul 8 2010, 1:39 pm
Sonic Tonic   How's your beer intake? If you're a regula...   Jul 8 2010, 1:43 pm
Pokey   How's your beer intake? If you're a regul...   Jul 8 2010, 1:51 pm
+Ed+   Beer? ain't soda as unhealthy in terms of call...   Jul 8 2010, 1:53 pm
Pokey   Beer? ain't soda as unhealthy in terms of cal...   Jul 8 2010, 1:55 pm
VoodooLady   Beer? ain't soda as unhealthy in terms of cal...   Jul 8 2010, 7:01 pm
+Ed+   Ok. What is a cardio?   Jul 8 2010, 1:54 pm
+Ed+   I probably only have a couple now maybe every se...   Jul 8 2010, 1:57 pm
Pokey   We drink insync!   Jul 8 2010, 2:04 pm
OutToDry   Here's to your gym session Enjoy http://www....   Jul 8 2010, 2:12 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Here's to your gym session Enjoy http://www...   Jul 8 2010, 2:53 pm
OutToDry   On my trips to visit family, the only Primanti ...   Jul 8 2010, 7:08 pm
+Ed+   Damn you Bob http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...   Jul 8 2010, 2:30 pm
Sonic Tonic   Pokey how about hitting a boxing bag? Quick upper ...   Jul 8 2010, 3:07 pm
Aitkens   I stopped drinking beer. I drink vodka now, mainl...   Jul 8 2010, 7:12 pm
+Ed+   I stopped drinking beer. I drink vodka now, main...   Jul 9 2010, 1:51 am
Existentialist   Ok, guys, not to flood Ray's topic, let's...   Jul 9 2010, 7:38 pm
Pokey   Atkins looks like the deal in the short term ... u...   Jul 10 2010, 11:40 am
Bremang   Atkins looks like the deal in the short term ... ...   Jul 10 2010, 3:40 pm
Pokey   the treadmill will crush your knees. try the elli...   Jul 10 2010, 3:48 pm
+Ed+   Ex, thank you VERY much for your advice, I will fo...   Jul 10 2010, 3:09 pm
Pokey   Ex, thank you VERY much for your advice, I will f...   Jul 10 2010, 3:35 pm
Existentialist   Oh boy, we've got the "expert" Brema...   Jul 10 2010, 5:14 pm
Bremang   Oh boy, we've got the "expert" Brem...   Jul 10 2010, 6:17 pm
Existentialist   If you want, I will flesh out anything you'r...   Jul 10 2010, 6:39 pm
Bremang   I probably will, considering I have passed all ...   Jul 10 2010, 6:43 pm
Bremang   well i did misread pokey about finding the time, b...   Jul 10 2010, 6:40 pm
Existentialist   No, I think we're done. :)   Jul 10 2010, 6:45 pm
Bremang   No, I think we're done. :) Meanwhile, you...   Jul 10 2010, 6:48 pm
Existentialist   Meanwhile, you're a med student who advised t...   Jul 10 2010, 6:54 pm
Bremang   Yep, a 4th year med student who is board certif...   Jul 10 2010, 7:19 pm
Existentialist   Its amazing that you find time to post here being...   Jul 10 2010, 7:24 pm
OutToDry   Eat at Joes. Perhaps it's a hoax   Jul 10 2010, 6:50 pm
OutToDry   He wont give it up when he gets shown the door.......   Jul 10 2010, 6:58 pm
Bremang   He wont give it up when he gets shown the door......   Jul 10 2010, 7:21 pm
OutToDry   I take no cash for supporting tgf. Do you have ad...   Jul 10 2010, 7:25 pm
Bremang   I take no cash for supporting tgf. Do you have a...   Jul 10 2010, 7:27 pm
Existentialist   Yes, thats where he said it could be harmful. But...   Jul 10 2010, 7:29 pm
Bremang   This is not evidence-based, Bre. What exactly i...   Jul 10 2010, 7:43 pm
Bremang   Nah I'm no Admin, I agree it is silly to chang...   Jul 10 2010, 7:30 pm
OutToDry   and truth be told yo yo dieting with lots of cycle...   Jul 10 2010, 7:30 pm
OutToDry   Again, spin spin spin to another part of the debat...   Jul 10 2010, 7:35 pm
Bremang   Again, spin spin spin to another part of the deba...   Jul 10 2010, 8:02 pm
OutToDry   You Bre, like to exploit when someone makes an i...   Jul 10 2010, 7:39 pm
Bremang   You Bre, like to exploit when someone makes an ...   Jul 10 2010, 7:51 pm
Wambangalang   how did this turn into tgf and bickering? Im 26 a...   Jul 10 2010, 7:40 pm
Bremang   how did this turn into tgf and bickering? Im 26 ...   Jul 10 2010, 7:56 pm
Existentialist   hows your protein intake and your sleep? Tell m...   Jul 10 2010, 8:49 pm
SJN1279   Tell me Bre, what evidence is there for evaluatin...   Jul 10 2010, 9:58 pm
Existentialist   Muscle growth Bodybuilders use three main strateg...   Jul 10 2010, 10:22 pm
SJN1279   That'd be great if we were in 6th grade. Wiki...   Jul 10 2010, 10:29 pm
Existentialist   :D I like this guy.   Jul 10 2010, 7:47 pm
Bremang   :D I like this guy. So I guess you're sayi...   Jul 10 2010, 7:53 pm
Existentialist   So I guess you're saying that Atkins is not h...   Jul 10 2010, 8:47 pm
Bremang   In the grand scheme of things, few things are h...   Jul 11 2010, 1:43 am
OutToDry   would you mind stuffing some envelopes? :wave:   Jul 10 2010, 8:05 pm
Bremang   would you mind stuffing some envelopes? :wave: ...   Jul 10 2010, 8:17 pm
OutToDry   You forgot a few things in that list   Jul 10 2010, 10:10 pm
Existentialist   The original question is what evidence is there fo...   Jul 10 2010, 10:44 pm
Bremang   The original question is what evidence is there f...   Jul 11 2010, 1:33 am
+Ed+   You forgot a few things in that list EK promotio...   Jul 11 2010, 3:30 am
OutToDry   EK promotion? steriods & HGH, america...   Jul 11 2010, 7:09 am
Nobody Knows   how did this turn into tgf and bickering? Im 26 ...   Jul 11 2010, 3:50 am
Pokey   How tall are you, wam? If you're 64 kg you mu...   Jul 11 2010, 7:17 am
Pokey   Oh man, I feel like the prettiest girl at the danc...   Jul 11 2010, 7:15 am
Bremang   Oh man, I feel like the prettiest girl at the dan...   Jul 11 2010, 1:03 pm
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