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SinfulEyes
post Jun 30 2010, 1:54 pm
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post Jul 7 2010, 8:32 am
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I won't post a song-by-song review of Alive. I think that has been done very well by others. I will give my general, high-level impressions.

This CD is the tale of two CD's. It's good (not great). And it sucks.

What do I mean by that? If you totally ignore the lyrics and what Ed is actually saying, this is a pretty good and enjoyable album. I really like the music and the melodies. The riffs are good. There is some good bass and rumming. It works well with Ed's voice. And I love Ed's voice! His will always be may favorite voice. And this album showcases it. This album fits neatly into the trilogy of albums that is Birds of Pray, Songs From Black Mountain and now Alive. They are similar in sound and theme and producing.

But I can't ignore the lyrics. They are in your face and relentless.

Besides being filled from top to bottom with in-your-face Christian preaching, and sappy, happy, joy-filled, nausia-inducing platitudes, it has a couple of other things working against it.

First, there are so many themes, and even exact quotes, from lyrics in past songs, that it is frustrating to wonder whether Ed has run out of new ideas three albums ago. Mona Lisa. What Are We Fighting For. Water. Daughters. Bla bla bla.

Then overlay on top of that the inescapable voice in the back of your head telling you that if the allegations that Chad, Chad and Pat made are even partly true, then all this talk about Jesus and love and grace and the Great Beyond are so hypocritical that it makes me want to throw the CD against a wall. I am not saying the allegations are entirely true. Ed probably has a side of the story that adds a different perspective on the facts. But what I am saying is that with the allegations being out there - unanswered - I can't stop them from sneaking into my head and effecting my views on these Christian, I've found bliss in Jesus, lyrics. At the very least, it seems clear that Ed operates within the music business like he is using the Machiavellian handbook. And I don't want to get personal, but I've seen him at clubs while on tour and I wonder what his wife and daughters would think of his Christian family values if they had a chance to follow him around. So on some level, these lyrics strike me as profoundly hypocritical.

Another point about the lyrics - I've never heard an album with 11 tracks that all make the same lyrical point. Over and over again, it says the same, happy sappy stuff about God and Ed marinating in the flow of God's love. Word after word. Line after line. Song after song. I had to take a break before I got to the end of the album because it was too much. I fealt like I had just spent a whole morning in Sunday School listening to a lecture by a Catholic nun on ecstacy.

So for me, this album could be really good if I block out what Ed is saying and just listen to the tunes without paying attention. I'll keep listening. Maybe it will start to work for me. And as I have done in the past with Krishnamurti and Ken Wilber, I will try to understand where Ed is coming from with his Christianity thing and maybe that will inspire me and influence my own spirituality.


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SinfulEyes   Alive   Jun 30 2010, 1:54 pm
Badman   Somewhere in between. Some songs are catchy but t...   Jun 30 2010, 2:36 pm
Merica   Considering what he's tried to do, I think it...   Jun 30 2010, 2:40 pm
SinfulEyes   I think you guys are trying to be nice here. Base...   Jun 30 2010, 2:50 pm
Merica   I think you guys are trying to be nice here. Bas...   Jun 30 2010, 3:13 pm
SinfulEyes   That is fair. You are giving your honest opinion a...   Jun 30 2010, 3:16 pm
PurdueSteve   It sucks. It sucks because it was put out by Ed K...   Jun 30 2010, 2:54 pm
Badman   It sucks. It sucks because it was put out by Ed ...   Jul 1 2010, 9:37 am
SJN1279   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Chr...   Jul 1 2010, 9:55 am
SinfulEyes   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:03 am
LivesMeltdown   Nick, I think the ratio will be about the same co...   Jul 1 2010, 10:22 am
SinfulEyes   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:05 am
Existentialist   Yeah.. because Christians never lie, steal, cheat...   Jul 1 2010, 10:26 am
OutToDry   Lie, cheat, steal, rape, murder? Sounds like po...   Jul 1 2010, 11:05 am
SJN1279   Gracious Few haves now have their own board, no re...   Jul 1 2010, 12:37 pm
FishOutaWater   For the record: I have never downloaded an album...   Jul 1 2010, 1:01 pm
Aitkens   Gracious Few haves now have their own board, no r...   Jul 1 2010, 1:33 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Gracious Few haves now have their own board, no r...   Jul 1 2010, 1:49 pm
Aitkens   Yeah.. because Christians never lie, steal, cheat...   Jul 1 2010, 10:32 am
Existentialist   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:21 am
Pokey   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:31 am
PurdueSteve   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 1:21 pm
SinfulEyes   Ed... ahem.. the good music writing Ed, that cata...   Jul 1 2010, 1:29 pm
SJN1279   Ed... ahem.. the good music writing Ed, that cata...   Jul 1 2010, 1:29 pm
Merica   Operation Spirits lyrics were changed because Ed w...   Jul 1 2010, 1:31 pm
Sakhmet2   Ed has very different views towards religion now ...   Jul 1 2010, 2:15 pm
Pokey   Which part of the lyrics? "but what a man...   Jul 1 2010, 2:29 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Ed has very different views towards religion now ...   Jul 4 2010, 7:44 am
SJN1279   So he'll no longer be singing Lakini's Ju...   Jul 5 2010, 8:38 am
Aitkens   I don't believe that Lakini's Juice outri...   Jul 5 2010, 8:52 am
Sakhmet2   Clearly you have never read the lyrics then. W...   Jul 5 2010, 8:56 am
SJN1279   Clearly you have never read the lyrics then. I ...   Jul 5 2010, 8:59 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Ed has very different views towards religion now ...   Jul 4 2010, 11:56 pm
+Ed+   Still waiting on a response to my question. Does...   Jul 5 2010, 1:39 am
Nobody Knows   Three songs out of 12 that are ok... so in general...   Jun 30 2010, 3:19 pm
Pokey   He still hasn't answered my point about youtub...   Jul 1 2010, 10:37 am
SinfulEyes   He still hasn't answered my point about youtu...   Jul 1 2010, 10:41 am
Merica   All the people in this world are bastard coated ba...   Jul 1 2010, 10:40 am
SinfulEyes   All the people in this world are bastard coated b...   Jul 1 2010, 10:42 am
Merica   No shit. The worst of the worst are the one's...   Jul 1 2010, 10:44 am
Pokey   No shit. The worst of the worst are the one's...   Jul 1 2010, 10:45 am
SinfulEyes   pfft those things mean nothing, that's small ...   Jul 1 2010, 10:47 am
Pokey   No dude.. according to Nick it's worst that w...   Jul 1 2010, 10:48 am
Merica   I feel bad for not liking it more. Think I might g...   Jul 1 2010, 10:50 am
Ned   You are all terrible, disloyal Christians for STEA...   Jul 1 2010, 10:52 am
Existentialist   :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ...   Jul 1 2010, 10:54 am
Sakhmet2   Thanks.   Jul 1 2010, 3:02 pm
Aitkens   Where's that image of Ed flipping off everyone...   Jul 1 2010, 3:10 pm
Merica   If Ed's a devout Christian, then he's a ba...   Jul 1 2010, 3:12 pm
Existentialist   Remember that time he stole millions of dollars fr...   Jul 1 2010, 3:14 pm
Merica   Remember that time he stole millions of dollars f...   Jul 1 2010, 3:15 pm
SinfulEyes   OK 'fess up.. who voted that it's great?   Jul 1 2010, 4:16 pm
Live4Life   OK 'fess up.. who voted that it's great? ...   Jul 3 2010, 10:20 pm
Existentialist   Nick and Ned.   Jul 1 2010, 6:22 pm
Pokey   Nick and Ned. I hope Ned will come back for the...   Jul 2 2010, 2:49 am
Dutchie   As much as the sounds of now differ from the sound...   Jul 2 2010, 3:15 am
Costakoui   As much as the sounds of now differ from the soun...   Jul 2 2010, 9:09 am
Hoodstock   Some of the people here that I respect say this al...   Jul 2 2010, 8:52 am
OutToDry   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when it...   Jul 2 2010, 9:12 am
Aitkens   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when i...   Jul 2 2010, 9:17 am
Live4Life   I really want to get one signed by TGF with one o...   Jul 3 2010, 10:21 pm
Aitkens   I would do just the opposite...because eds cd wil...   Jul 3 2010, 11:15 pm
Costakoui   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when i...   Jul 2 2010, 10:42 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when i...   Jul 3 2010, 12:16 pm
OutToDry   The most honest thing Nick has said in the time...   Jul 3 2010, 11:19 pm
maccaz69   I believe he bet me on whether I would buy 20 cop...   Jul 4 2010, 3:05 am
OutToDry   I wouldn't have the balls to do it...............   Jul 2 2010, 9:23 am
Live4Life   Can't go by what others say.....judge for your...   Jul 3 2010, 10:24 pm
Live inside   Can't go by what others say.....judge for you...   Jul 4 2010, 10:58 pm
+Ed+   Horrible texts. Awful musicians. Nice melodies Tr...   Jul 4 2010, 4:24 am
tarduk   Grace, Just In Time, Zion are ok. But other songs ...   Jul 5 2010, 4:06 am
Nobody Knows   Oh cmon, this is bullshit.   Jul 5 2010, 8:50 am
Hoodstock   How exactly as Ed changed the lyrics to OS? I nev...   Jul 5 2010, 9:16 am
Pokey   How exactly as Ed changed the lyrics to OS? I ne...   Jul 5 2010, 9:53 am
OutToDry   THose lyrics are emblazoned on many a bootleg, go ...   Jul 5 2010, 10:01 am
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