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SinfulEyes
post Jun 30 2010, 1:54 pm
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post Jul 6 2010, 10:39 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 5 2010, 9:59 am) *

I have. Operation Spirit lyrics stated that Jesus meant nothing to Ed today. When that was no longer the case, Ed changed the lyrics. Lakini's Juice's lyrics are much more ambigious.



I have to disagree with your statement here. I don't think that the Operation Spirit lyrics state that Jesus means nothing to Ed today.

I get frustrated when people show only a superficial understanding of the lyrics on the early Live albums. The lyrics on those albums are much deeper than what many people understand.

Again, I think that the Operation Spirit lyrics did NOT state that Jesus meanth nothing to Ed today. What they stated was that what Jesus was 2,000 years ago means nothing to Ed today. The Jesus that is presented in mainstream religion is a Jesus that only lives inside a prayer. What he was all about 2,000 years ago may have been beautiful 2,000 years ago, but the pain and suffering in life is here and now.

This is a condemnation of the belief and adoration approach of mainstream Christianity. The whole album is an indictment of so-called teachers who tell you what to believe and so-called leaders who leave followers chained to fate. This limiting belief in Jesus that is forced on people does not reflect a concept of Jesus that is a meaningful spiritual inspiration for us today. That Jesus is only stuck in a prayer doesn't help us with our pain and suffering. I don't think that Ed necessarily said that Jesus meant nothing to him. It is the Jesus that only lives in a prayer and only relates to events that happened 2,000 years ago that means nothing to him today, in a present state of suffering. That does not necessarily forclose the possibility of finding a Jesus that is present, inspriational and transformative today, to help us with our suffering. So let go of the beliefs that were hoisted upon you by "leaders" - let it all go and let's get it back together again - from a place of pure, unconditioned consciousness, free from bias and belief and "teachings".



heard alot of talk about this Jesus
a man of love, a man of strength
but what a man was two thousand years ago
means nothing at all to me today

he could have been telling me about my higher self
but he only lives inside my prayer
so what he was may have been beautiful
but the pain is right now and right here


let it go!
let it go!
let it go, my friend
and let's get it back
let's get it back together

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SinfulEyes   Alive   Jun 30 2010, 1:54 pm
Badman   Somewhere in between. Some songs are catchy but t...   Jun 30 2010, 2:36 pm
Merica   Considering what he's tried to do, I think it...   Jun 30 2010, 2:40 pm
SinfulEyes   I think you guys are trying to be nice here. Base...   Jun 30 2010, 2:50 pm
Merica   I think you guys are trying to be nice here. Bas...   Jun 30 2010, 3:13 pm
SinfulEyes   That is fair. You are giving your honest opinion a...   Jun 30 2010, 3:16 pm
PurdueSteve   It sucks. It sucks because it was put out by Ed K...   Jun 30 2010, 2:54 pm
Badman   It sucks. It sucks because it was put out by Ed ...   Jul 1 2010, 9:37 am
SJN1279   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Chr...   Jul 1 2010, 9:55 am
SinfulEyes   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:03 am
LivesMeltdown   Nick, I think the ratio will be about the same co...   Jul 1 2010, 10:22 am
SinfulEyes   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:05 am
Existentialist   Yeah.. because Christians never lie, steal, cheat...   Jul 1 2010, 10:26 am
OutToDry   Lie, cheat, steal, rape, murder? Sounds like po...   Jul 1 2010, 11:05 am
SJN1279   Gracious Few haves now have their own board, no re...   Jul 1 2010, 12:37 pm
FishOutaWater   For the record: I have never downloaded an album...   Jul 1 2010, 1:01 pm
Aitkens   Gracious Few haves now have their own board, no r...   Jul 1 2010, 1:33 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Gracious Few haves now have their own board, no r...   Jul 1 2010, 1:49 pm
Aitkens   Yeah.. because Christians never lie, steal, cheat...   Jul 1 2010, 10:32 am
Existentialist   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:21 am
Pokey   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 10:31 am
PurdueSteve   Not surprising that thieves aren't fond of Ch...   Jul 1 2010, 1:21 pm
SinfulEyes   Ed... ahem.. the good music writing Ed, that cata...   Jul 1 2010, 1:29 pm
SJN1279   Ed... ahem.. the good music writing Ed, that cata...   Jul 1 2010, 1:29 pm
Merica   Operation Spirits lyrics were changed because Ed w...   Jul 1 2010, 1:31 pm
Sakhmet2   Ed has very different views towards religion now ...   Jul 1 2010, 2:15 pm
Pokey   Which part of the lyrics? "but what a man...   Jul 1 2010, 2:29 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Ed has very different views towards religion now ...   Jul 4 2010, 7:44 am
SJN1279   So he'll no longer be singing Lakini's Ju...   Jul 5 2010, 8:38 am
Aitkens   I don't believe that Lakini's Juice outri...   Jul 5 2010, 8:52 am
Sakhmet2   Clearly you have never read the lyrics then. W...   Jul 5 2010, 8:56 am
SJN1279   Clearly you have never read the lyrics then. I ...   Jul 5 2010, 8:59 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   Ed has very different views towards religion now ...   Jul 4 2010, 11:56 pm
+Ed+   Still waiting on a response to my question. Does...   Jul 5 2010, 1:39 am
Nobody Knows   Three songs out of 12 that are ok... so in general...   Jun 30 2010, 3:19 pm
Pokey   He still hasn't answered my point about youtub...   Jul 1 2010, 10:37 am
SinfulEyes   He still hasn't answered my point about youtu...   Jul 1 2010, 10:41 am
Merica   All the people in this world are bastard coated ba...   Jul 1 2010, 10:40 am
SinfulEyes   All the people in this world are bastard coated b...   Jul 1 2010, 10:42 am
Merica   No shit. The worst of the worst are the one's...   Jul 1 2010, 10:44 am
Pokey   No shit. The worst of the worst are the one's...   Jul 1 2010, 10:45 am
SinfulEyes   pfft those things mean nothing, that's small ...   Jul 1 2010, 10:47 am
Pokey   No dude.. according to Nick it's worst that w...   Jul 1 2010, 10:48 am
Merica   I feel bad for not liking it more. Think I might g...   Jul 1 2010, 10:50 am
Ned   You are all terrible, disloyal Christians for STEA...   Jul 1 2010, 10:52 am
Existentialist   :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ...   Jul 1 2010, 10:54 am
Sakhmet2   Thanks.   Jul 1 2010, 3:02 pm
Aitkens   Where's that image of Ed flipping off everyone...   Jul 1 2010, 3:10 pm
Merica   If Ed's a devout Christian, then he's a ba...   Jul 1 2010, 3:12 pm
Existentialist   Remember that time he stole millions of dollars fr...   Jul 1 2010, 3:14 pm
Merica   Remember that time he stole millions of dollars f...   Jul 1 2010, 3:15 pm
SinfulEyes   OK 'fess up.. who voted that it's great?   Jul 1 2010, 4:16 pm
Live4Life   OK 'fess up.. who voted that it's great? ...   Jul 3 2010, 10:20 pm
Existentialist   Nick and Ned.   Jul 1 2010, 6:22 pm
Pokey   Nick and Ned. I hope Ned will come back for the...   Jul 2 2010, 2:49 am
Dutchie   As much as the sounds of now differ from the sound...   Jul 2 2010, 3:15 am
Costakoui   As much as the sounds of now differ from the soun...   Jul 2 2010, 9:09 am
Hoodstock   Some of the people here that I respect say this al...   Jul 2 2010, 8:52 am
OutToDry   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when it...   Jul 2 2010, 9:12 am
Aitkens   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when i...   Jul 2 2010, 9:17 am
Live4Life   I really want to get one signed by TGF with one o...   Jul 3 2010, 10:21 pm
Aitkens   I would do just the opposite...because eds cd wil...   Jul 3 2010, 11:15 pm
Costakoui   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when i...   Jul 2 2010, 10:42 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   I'll send one of my TGF copies to Nick when i...   Jul 3 2010, 12:16 pm
OutToDry   The most honest thing Nick has said in the time...   Jul 3 2010, 11:19 pm
maccaz69   I believe he bet me on whether I would buy 20 cop...   Jul 4 2010, 3:05 am
OutToDry   I wouldn't have the balls to do it...............   Jul 2 2010, 9:23 am
Live4Life   Can't go by what others say.....judge for your...   Jul 3 2010, 10:24 pm
Live inside   Can't go by what others say.....judge for you...   Jul 4 2010, 10:58 pm
+Ed+   Horrible texts. Awful musicians. Nice melodies Tr...   Jul 4 2010, 4:24 am
tarduk   Grace, Just In Time, Zion are ok. But other songs ...   Jul 5 2010, 4:06 am
Nobody Knows   Oh cmon, this is bullshit.   Jul 5 2010, 8:50 am
Hoodstock   How exactly as Ed changed the lyrics to OS? I nev...   Jul 5 2010, 9:16 am
Pokey   How exactly as Ed changed the lyrics to OS? I ne...   Jul 5 2010, 9:53 am
OutToDry   THose lyrics are emblazoned on many a bootleg, go ...   Jul 5 2010, 10:01 am
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