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post Jun 25 2010, 1:59 pm
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If possible, can we keep this thread to discuss music and not argue with each other?


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post Jun 28 2010, 3:15 pm
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Let's face it. Most of us are not objective. I am going to be brutally honest with my prediction right now. It's not what I want to see happen. What I want to see happen is for Ed to be moderately successful so that I can continue to hear his voice and hear his uplifting music. And I want TGF to be HUGELY successful because the guys deserve it, and I love their music, and I think that they should be the next Audioslave on merit alone. But if you put a gun to my head, here is what I think will happen:


The idea of the drummer, bassist and lead guitarist of the 90's rock band called Live (none of whom anybody outside of York, Pennsylvania or this message board can identify by name) and the lead singer of the one-hit 90's rock band Candlebox is not exactly going to make the kids today go wild and probably isn't going to set the world on fire. Should they? Absolutely Yes! Will they? Probably not. I don't think that TGF will be a blip on the music scene and we might not get another album after this one. So I am going to enjoy the heck out of every drop I can get right now because I am loving it.

Likewise, the news of "that bald guy who sang Lightening Crashes" who is older and more out of touch with the kids today isn't going to sell out arenas or crank out number one hits. I saw "Eddie K" play to about 75 people in the attic music room at the Tin Angel in Philadelphia. That's about what I think we should expect. Should he be able to get popular? He's got a great voice. And he is making music that resembles what people want today. He seems to have tried to model a career path after his one-time admirer Daughtry. And if he doesn't make it, it wouldn't be for a lack of trying. Arguments aside, the guy sure works hard and knows how to play the game and work the business of the music business. But I don't think that people will care about songs from "the bald guy my mom used to like in college". Especially because Ed's music sounds like everybody else's music and it doesn't distinguish itself, and people are already plugged into the trendy artists that are cool to like.

So one of them might catch lightening in a bottle and grab a hold of that unexplainable, seemingly random "it" that catapults one band out of a million into stardom and popularilty. I mean, why in the world is Brett Michaels popular again? Both Ed and TGF have the goods to make it happen. Clearly in different genres now. But I don't think it is going to happen for either one of them. Look at SFBM which came from "Live". The US release of that album and its singles was an abortion. And the album and tour didn't make a ripple on the fabric of the music scene.

In the end, I think both ventures will fail to deliver success and we will all be faced with a long dry spell for about a decade. Ed will keep playing Live songs and make a living off it. CCP may go off the scene for a while. Then, in the year 2020, Live will reunite for a reunion tour and we will all get to see them at our local Summer State Fair. Then they will try to make another album, and it will be about as well received as a new album from Britney Fox or REO Speedwagon or Corey Hart. But all of us will love it and if Nick hasn't broken this website up and used it for firewood by that time, we may all meet back here in 2020 and start the Ed verses CCP debate all over again.


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mattyeagles   Alive   Jun 25 2010, 1:59 pm
+Ed+   I am listening to this album right now.   Jun 25 2010, 2:06 pm
+Ed+   Stand ak.a. Do This Anymore by Nickelback I haveh...   Jun 25 2010, 2:14 pm
Merica   I'll be honest, I ended up skipping through mo...   Jun 25 2010, 4:52 pm
PurdueSteve   I'm listening to it. Here's the album dis...   Jun 25 2010, 5:35 pm
TheBeacon   So its 11 tracks then. What about a secret song? W...   Jun 25 2010, 8:33 pm
Pokey   Ok so I have it, and before Nick starts demanding ...   Jun 26 2010, 4:03 am
Deku   Ok so I have it, and before Nick starts demanding...   Jun 26 2010, 6:08 am
sh4rpz   Ok so I have it, and before Nick starts demanding...   Jun 26 2010, 1:35 pm
Badman   Fire On The Mountain - For fuck's sake Ed sh...   Jun 26 2010, 3:31 pm
Pokey   This is exactly what I thought! I was like ...   Jun 26 2010, 3:45 pm
Badman   It could have been the greatest song he's eve...   Jun 26 2010, 3:57 pm
Sakhmet2   I'm not going to have a bunch of bikers laugh...   Jun 26 2010, 3:59 pm
Pokey   It's better than SFBM. Take Heaven out of bo...   Jun 26 2010, 4:00 pm
Badman   Sigh... just wish there was ONE song that wasn...   Jun 26 2010, 5:30 pm
SJN1279   This is exactly what I thought! I was like ...   Jun 26 2010, 3:51 pm
Pokey   From the sample, that could be one of my favs. I...   Jun 26 2010, 3:57 pm
Merica   Add an extra couple of marks to Grace because, des...   Jun 26 2010, 5:07 am
Aitkens   Great review Pokey. I could have told you that be...   Jun 26 2010, 5:44 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   In the hopes that the album will appeal to my vari...   Jun 26 2010, 6:00 am
Pokey   Just a couple of things .. I don't have anyth...   Jun 26 2010, 7:17 am
Liveman94   Just a couple of things .. I don't have anyt...   Jun 26 2010, 7:38 am
Pokey   while I respect your opinion mate - regarding the...   Jun 26 2010, 9:36 am
Aitkens   the music is just such a dramatic step down from w...   Jun 26 2010, 9:47 am
Liveman94   Not at all, if I kept on listening to it and my o...   Jun 26 2010, 7:56 pm
Sakhmet2   If possible, can we keep this thread to discuss m...   Jun 26 2010, 7:31 am
Pokey   To properly respond to this likelihood I would ne...   Jun 26 2010, 7:34 am
Aitkens   Generally first impressions are the most accurate.   Jun 26 2010, 7:41 am
Liveman94   Generally first impressions are the most accurate...   Jun 26 2010, 8:06 am
ItchyTriggerFinger   yeah I don't necessarily agree with that eith...   Jun 26 2010, 8:13 am
Sakhmet2   I'm with Liveman94 on this one. There are a ...   Jun 26 2010, 1:23 pm
LiveFan92   Generally first impressions are the most accurate...   Jun 26 2010, 7:15 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   Yes, that's why 99% of Live fans HATED SS and...   Jun 26 2010, 7:34 pm
OutToDry   Out To Dry remains out to dry on this thread :nod...   Jun 26 2010, 7:44 am
icewaterike   So its 11 tracks then. What about a secret song? ...   Jun 26 2010, 11:04 am
icewaterike   And "A new world" will be a dutch iTunes...   Jun 26 2010, 11:06 am
dangum   What's with all these 'bonus' tracks? ...   Jun 26 2010, 11:09 am
Merica   What's with all these 'bonus' tracks?...   Jun 26 2010, 11:19 am
Pokey   What's with all these 'bonus' tracks?...   Jun 26 2010, 12:21 pm
TheBeacon   Yeah Ed shouldve just made it a 13 track album. We...   Jun 26 2010, 11:55 am
Merica   Yeah Ed shouldve just made it a 13 track album. W...   Jun 26 2010, 11:57 am
SJN1279   I can not wait to July 6th. From the samples that...   Jun 26 2010, 12:06 pm
OutToDry   If you like TGF, you probably won't like Ed, a...   Jun 26 2010, 12:17 pm
LivesMeltdown   If you like TGF, you probably won't like Ed, ...   Jun 26 2010, 12:18 pm
Pokey   I can not wait to July 6th. From the samples tha...   Jun 26 2010, 12:21 pm
tiger   I can not wait to July 6th. From the samples tha...   Jun 26 2010, 1:00 pm
TheBeacon   yeah probably! lol   Jun 26 2010, 12:06 pm
TheBeacon   Well I am totally digging everything I have heard ...   Jun 26 2010, 12:28 pm
PurdueSteve   Well I am totally digging everything I have heard...   Jun 26 2010, 12:50 pm
Pokey   No it's not. To call it another SFBM, would ...   Jun 26 2010, 12:55 pm
sh4rpz   No it's not. To call it another SFBM, would ...   Jun 26 2010, 1:40 pm
livefan86   Since I have no interest in buying the album, does...   Jun 26 2010, 1:47 pm
Soxwsc   I'm listening to it now for the first time.. a...   Jun 26 2010, 1:54 pm
Badman   I listened to the whole album front to back. I wa...   Jun 26 2010, 3:21 pm
Pokey   "[i]yes the song of my soul is sweet like a ...   Jun 26 2010, 3:26 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   I'll leave you guys with this mysterious lyri...   Jun 26 2010, 4:22 pm
Bremang   "yes the song of my soul is sweet like a b...   Jun 26 2010, 10:37 pm
Live inside   "yes the song of my soul is sweet like a blac...   Jun 26 2010, 11:59 pm
Badman   I've noticed in the album he keeps reusing phr...   Jun 26 2010, 3:52 pm
Pokey   I've noticed in the album he keeps reusing ph...   Jun 26 2010, 3:56 pm
OutToDry   Lay with me lady, youre driving me crazy, I promis...   Jun 26 2010, 4:13 pm
Pokey   Lay with me lady, youre driving me crazy, I promi...   Jun 26 2010, 4:19 pm
ItchyTriggerFinger   I dunno, I don't think Ed and Free go well to...   Jun 26 2010, 4:25 pm
OutToDry   :D :D :D :D   Jun 26 2010, 4:23 pm
Deku   Pokey, Badman - would you say that the best thing ...   Jun 26 2010, 4:30 pm
Pokey   Pokey, Badman - would you say that the best thing...   Jun 26 2010, 4:42 pm
livefan86   I just listened to the album and I can't belie...   Jun 26 2010, 4:51 pm
Merica   I think comparing Alive to BOP insults BOP which, ...   Jun 26 2010, 4:40 pm
Infrequent Poster   These reviews have been disappointing. I was hold...   Jun 26 2010, 5:04 pm
OutToDry   I don't know where you get the stats that SS ...   Jun 26 2010, 7:19 pm
Liveman94   Sorry for the double post. I think that every sec...   Jun 26 2010, 8:14 pm
Sakhmet2   Yes, that's why 99% of Live fans HATED SS and...   Jun 26 2010, 8:28 pm
OutToDry   Ed should add PF's 'Money' to his setl...   Jun 26 2010, 9:22 pm
TheBeacon   Still holding out to July 6th for the entire album...   Jun 26 2010, 11:34 pm
LivesMeltdown   Soul Whispers (live) http://www.youtube.com/watch...   Jun 27 2010, 6:18 am
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