Video Interview with Ed Options

[LivesMeltdown]

I can't watch this at work right now, but I noticed there was an interview uploaded on Youtube today with Ed. I have no idea what is talked about, but I'm assuming it was a recent one and has not been posted. If it has, feel free to delete this thread.

I figure the other threads are getting big, so we can start another argument in this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AN6WqiK_to

[deepenoughtodive]

It's amazing to watch the TGF cult members (I mean fans....) race to be the first to crap on anything Ed says or does.

Ed is who he is. He's not gonna talk about TGF. I haven't heard them talk about him either, just the e-mails from friendsoflive that mention both bands.

I'm dissapointed in the way Ed has handled things with LIVE, I wish he would have done a side project (like someone else said in another thread) and gotten some of his powertrip out of his system that way so we could have the old, collaborative best band on the planet LIVE back but it didn't happen that way. I hope sometime in the future, there will be a genuine reconciliation between Ed and Chad, Chad and Pat. I really don't want LIVE to be over.

All that being said, I can still enjoy some of Ed's new stuff. I like what I have heard from TGF a little better but I will support both.

I don't get the bitterness that a lot of you have.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

It's amazing to watch the TGF cult members (I mean fans....) race to be the first to crap on anything Ed says or does.

Ed is who he is. He's not gonna talk about TGF. I haven't heard them talk about him either, just the e-mails from friendsoflive that mention both bands.

I'm dissapointed in the way Ed has handled things with LIVE, I wish he would have done a side project (like someone else said in another thread) and gotten some of his powertrip out of his system that way so we could have the old, collaborative best band on the planet LIVE back but it didn't happen that way. I hope sometime in the future, there will be a genuine reconciliation between Ed and Chad, Chad and Pat. I really don't want LIVE to be over.

All that being said, I can still enjoy some of Ed's new stuff. I like what I have heard from TGF a little better but I will support both.

I don't get the bitterness that a lot of you have.

I'm sorry but what about any of this thread is bitter? Pokey is discussing Ed's responses that he finds to be interesting in light of what we know about the demise of Live. The part of your response that I bolded is just as "bitter" as his response.

I merely pointed out that his band isn't nearly as awesome as Ed seems to think they are, being mid-level studio musicians and all.

[deepenoughtodive]

I'm sorry but what about any of this thread is bitter? Pokey is discussing Ed's responses that he finds to be interesting in light of what we know about the demise of Live. The part of your response that I bolded is just as "bitter" as his response.

I merely pointed out that his band isn't nearly as awesome as Ed seems to think they are, being mid-level studio musicians and all.

Seriously, if you can't see the bitterness from both sides your blind. Nick has just as much of a strange bent against TGF as most of the guys do against Ed but he's outnumbered so badly the TGF bias is a lot more prevalent.

The part of my quote you bolded might be considered bitter if the rest of the post wasn't included. Geez, and you guys jump on Nick for cherrypicking parts of posts.

I hold back on a lot of the things I think about both Ed and TGF because I understand that everyone has their opinions. There is no use in trying to convince people to see it the exact way you do and there is certainly no reason to bully people (especially people that help run the freaking board) like a lot of ya'll do.

I've seen people tell Nick he should stay off of the TGF threads since he obviously doesn't like them and yet all the Ed threads are filled with TGF fans bashing Ed. More than a little hypocritical.


Seriously, why the need to rehash the same old arguments in every thread? If some people like Ed's new music it doesn't make them less of a LIVE fan than anyone else.

[ItchyTriggerFinger]

Seriously, if you can't see the bitterness from both sides your blind. Nick has just as much of a strange bent against TGF as most of the guys do against Ed but he's outnumbered so badly the TGF bias is a lot more prevalent.

Nick is also fond of making outlandish statements and then cherry-picking what he chooses to respond to when called out on it.

The part of my quote you bolded might be considered bitter if the rest of the post wasn't included. Geez, and you guys jump on Nick for cherrypicking parts of posts.

For the record, I believe I was the first to mention I wished Ed had done a side-project instead of doing it the way he did. Though, I see nothing in the rest of your post that removes the bitterness inherent in the use of the word "powertrip". Or should he have included the part where you called us the "TGF cult members". Bitterness towards both sides of an argument is still bitterness.

I hold back on a lot of the things I think about both Ed and TGF because I understand that everyone has their opinions. There is no use in trying to convince people to see it the exact way you do and there is certainly no reason to bully people (especially people that help run the freaking board) like a lot of ya'll do.

Why hold back? You're allowed to have an opinion. Regardless of what the statistics in terms of how many are either side of the argument, this isn't groupthink. Having an opinion is worth something even if you can never win others to your point of view. Giving up on the opportunity to possibly win someone over to your way of thinking is worth less than nothing.

I've seen people tell Nick he should stay off of the TGF threads since he obviously doesn't like them and yet all the Ed threads are filled with TGF fans bashing Ed. More than a little hypocritical.

That's because Nick was never inclined to give TGF a chance at all. Here's what you seem to be missing. TGF members, even if they hate Ed personally for what he did, still recognize Ed for having been a vital cog in the band. You can see it every time someone posts about old shows, wistfully wishing he could still sing and write lyrics like he used to do.

Nick, on the other hand, has never shown any inclination to admit that anyone but Ed was responsible for Live's success. It's Nick's sycophantic ramblings regarding Ed's greatness, combined with what is known about the "last days" of Live, that bring out the vehemence of the response against him.

Seriously, why the need to rehash the same old arguments in every thread? If some people like Ed's new music it doesn't make them less of a LIVE fan than anyone else.

People are free to like Ed's new music. Hell, when all is said and done, I may be one of them. I have yet to hear anyone tell someone they're not allowed to like Ed's new music or they'd have to turn in their Live fan credentials. If someone told me that, I'd tell them where to go shove it.

[Pokey]

Nick, on the other hand, has never shown any inclination to admit that anyone but Ed was responsible for Live's success. It's Nick's sycophantic ramblings regarding Ed's greatness, combined with what is known about the "last days" of Live, that bring out the vehemence of the response against him.

I was thinking about this before, whenever an awesome bootleg is posted back in the old days, I never see Nick jumping on board to celebrate how great it was. He just doesn't strike me as a fan of Live. He likes Ed, that's all. The other guys are just session musicians to him, he doesn't have the ability to appreciate and really HEAR music, ironicly the guys were literally reduced to session musicians later in the years and this is what Nick seems to prefer.