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post May 7 2010, 9:41 pm
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I can't take being on a forum where the moderator repeatedly lashes out at members, and hijacks threads about music to spew venom about the band and their fans.

I'll see you guys when a different board opens up.



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post Jun 14 2010, 2:24 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 14 2010, 3:10 pm) *

I will answer these paragraphs one at a time:

-Chad Taylor's has blogged about Ed being responsible for Live's content this decade and that the albums were met with a resounding thud by the masses. That was in the intial email blog, and since then there have been numerous swipes about Ed "going soft" etc. Of course, he wouldn't badmouth the project to a random fan while he was out promoting the CD, that would just be idiotic.

-On the Songs from Black Mountain CD jacket, Ed Kowalczyk is credited with all music and lyrics.

-I own and love all of Live's CD's.

-Jimmy did get me passes, and Ed was not nice at all when I met him in 2004. I've met him 3 times since then (2006, 2009, 2010) and he has been a totally different person. He has been appreciative and cordial since that first meeting. I will admit being wrong about voicing my complaints in a public forum back in 2004. I was wrong to do it. I've since apologized to Jimmy, whether he accepted or not is totally up to him.

-What Ed can not do is call his new band LIVE. However he still is Ed Kowalczyk of Live.

-Actually when I took over Ed's Facebook he had roughly 5000 fans, and now he is approaching 10,000. I did overpost at first, but no long-term hurt was done.


Chad didn't bad mouth Ed at the time that SFBM came out and he didn't like the sound and the album went nowhere. He was a supportive bandmate and friend. He didn't bad-mouth Ed while Ed was in the band and was a friend. It was only after the revelations and the break-up and feelings were hurt and deeds that were done had come to light that he voiced his opinion about the music over the last decade.

Nick, I actually disagreed with the way you were treated on SOY many years ago when you aired your honest opinion about your experience with Ed. I thought you should have been allowed to be honest and criticize the way you were treated. Yes, you made a rash assumption that Ed was doing some sort of illegal substances, and you probably should have been a bit more circumspect about that, but I didn't think it was fair for everyone to jump on the band wagon and flame you for basically having something negative to say about a negative experience with the band. At the time I defended you and I didn't agree with the constant "bleaching" of the record at SOY where no one was ever allowed to say anything negative. I guess we don't even agree about that.

I may have gone too far to criticize your posting on Facebook and references to Live and the number of followers. I'm sorry about that. You actually do keep the fans well informed and put a lot of work into promotion. I do, however, wish that those posts were kept in a seperate account and that Ed would have a seperate account to communicate to fans. Other huge stars do all there own posting. Heck, even Ashton Kutcher doesn't have an admin doing his posting for him. It keeps it more personal.


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thefunkyredcaboose   TGF rocks and...   May 7 2010, 9:41 pm
Jim   I can't take being on a forum where the moder...   May 7 2010, 9:50 pm
Bremang   Time for TGF-Web :D Have you been holding on...   May 7 2010, 10:31 pm
TheBeacon   Please Jim please!!!!!!...   May 7 2010, 10:05 pm
OutToDry   Zmanpa is working on it http://fansofthegracious...   May 7 2010, 10:08 pm
Merica   See ya later...   May 7 2010, 10:14 pm
Pokey   Hurry up zman, we're losing credible posters...   May 7 2010, 10:32 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Not running from anyone, just a busy guy who has b...   May 7 2010, 10:35 pm
OutToDry   He's looking for ideas for content. PM him   May 7 2010, 10:36 pm
+Ed+   I can't take being on a forum where the moder...   May 8 2010, 2:40 am
SJN1279   I can't take being on a forum where the moder...   May 8 2010, 7:02 am
Pokey   I'm an administrator yes. Did I ever delete ...   May 8 2010, 11:15 am
SJN1279   the not deleting posts and such is true, and good...   May 8 2010, 11:23 am
tiger   I never take things to a personal level at a post...   May 8 2010, 11:27 am
SJN1279   You just take pot shots TGF, particularly Chad T....   May 8 2010, 11:32 am
tiger   Do you or any other members take pot shots at Ed?...   May 8 2010, 11:34 am
SJN1279   Well, I don't. But I don't see how respon...   May 8 2010, 11:52 am
Pokey   I just don't like how they handled the break-...   May 8 2010, 11:58 am
SJN1279   Oh Nicholas.. They were obviously really hurt, i...   May 8 2010, 12:05 pm
Pokey   They remind me of a guy who breaks up with their ...   May 8 2010, 12:10 pm
tiger   I just don't like how they handled the break-...   May 8 2010, 12:04 pm
SJN1279   I still haven't heard how this affects you. ...   May 8 2010, 12:26 pm
Pokey   Ed makes music that I really enjoy. His lyrics a...   May 8 2010, 12:41 pm
tiger   Ed makes music that I really enjoy. His lyrics a...   May 8 2010, 2:10 pm
tiger   Ed makes music that I really enjoy. His lyrics a...   May 8 2010, 2:37 pm
Jim   I don't know either party personally. It com...   May 9 2010, 7:14 pm
tiger   Yeah no noticeable drop off... [url=http://www.y...   May 9 2010, 7:42 pm
livefan86   more like he dropped from the grand canyon   May 9 2010, 7:47 pm
pho3nixtar   Yeah no noticeable drop off... http://www.youtub...   May 15 2010, 4:04 pm
boxhead   I just don't like how they handled the break-...   May 10 2010, 9:15 am
+Ed+   Or maybe Dan could give you a master-class of runn...   May 8 2010, 7:45 am
Soxwsc   Nick runs the board just fine. I'm appreciati...   May 8 2010, 9:17 am
SJN1279   Nick runs the board just fine. I'm appreciat...   May 8 2010, 10:39 am
Merica   Yeah, I've no qualms with how he runs the plac...   May 8 2010, 11:05 am
Merica   I don't know man, you don't get over twent...   May 8 2010, 11:53 am
OutToDry   Listen if 3/4ths of a band have uncovered a seriou...   May 8 2010, 12:12 pm
Nobody Knows   I wonder if anyone in Ed's "band" ca...   May 8 2010, 12:57 pm
Pokey   That should be their name. "Eddie K and the n...   May 8 2010, 1:05 pm
Good_Pain   That intro was mind-blowing I haven't felt the...   May 8 2010, 1:23 pm
Pokey   What I love about Nick's criticism is that he ...   May 8 2010, 2:21 pm
Existentialist   Nick is an easy psychoanalysis. He is likely somew...   May 8 2010, 3:19 pm
OutToDry   http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2618/4187283951_c99...   May 8 2010, 6:55 pm
Pokey   [img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2618/41872839...   May 9 2010, 3:47 am
Aitkens   [img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9513/eddie...   May 8 2010, 7:22 pm
Infrequent Poster   [img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9513/eddi...   May 9 2010, 8:36 am
Bremang   [img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9513/eddi...   Jun 12 2010, 1:27 am
Aitkens   Not sure if that means Anti-Ed or just anti douch...   Jun 12 2010, 6:11 am
Bremang   I think that it's pretty clear. There is ...   Jun 13 2010, 4:07 am
Nobody Knows   I bet he's saying: This finger just comes out...   May 9 2010, 8:54 am
OutToDry   The more I go and see these clips, the more and mo...   May 9 2010, 7:29 pm
tiger   No noticeable drop off. Is that even the same guy ...   May 9 2010, 8:19 pm
Aitkens   my how the mighty have fallen...   May 9 2010, 8:20 pm
Aitkens   I think the downfall of Live started when Ed put d...   May 9 2010, 8:23 pm
OutToDry   This is part of it Aik, for sure this is one part ...   May 9 2010, 8:43 pm
Bremang   Hats off to Nick for actually moderating this foru...   May 10 2010, 1:30 am
Pokey   Hats off to Nick for actually reading all of the ...   May 10 2010, 1:32 am
Sonic Tonic   Including his own? Caught his post before the e...   May 10 2010, 9:17 am
jayda   god I could cry after listening/watching that - wh...   May 10 2010, 7:34 am
Pokey   :D   May 10 2010, 9:36 am
Bremang   it is true   May 11 2010, 1:13 am
Live inside   I don`t want to interfere but you guys do the...   May 11 2010, 4:55 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I don`t want to interfere but you guys do th...   May 11 2010, 9:01 pm
OutToDry   Live Inside.....listen this is a pro TGF thread. ...   May 11 2010, 9:03 pm
tiger   I can't take being on a forum where the moder...   Jun 11 2010, 7:05 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   This thread was prophetic. "Sonic Tonic, you...   Jun 11 2010, 7:08 pm
Bremang   Nick might love TGF........it might be his job to ...   Jun 12 2010, 1:21 am
SJN1279   Nick might love TGF........it might be his job to...   Jun 12 2010, 1:52 am
Bremang   Trust that I do not love TGF, and I am a huge f...   Jun 12 2010, 1:55 am
OutToDry   Listen, that .5 sec insert into the Zion video is ...   Jun 12 2010, 7:54 am
Pokey   Listen, that .5 sec insert into the Zion video is...   Jun 12 2010, 8:50 am
Bremang   Listen, that .5 sec insert into the Zion video is...   Jun 13 2010, 4:12 am
BoDoctor   That is Ed, though. He has been through a ton of r...   Jun 12 2010, 8:58 am
Bremang   He's spineless, and whatever he has to do to...   Jun 13 2010, 4:14 am
+Ed+   I do not think we shall carry on saying that Ed st...   Jun 12 2010, 11:30 am
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