Candlebox Touring? Options

[VoodooLady]

very puzzling.. just got an email from Starland Ballroom and it said that

"Candlebox with special guests" are playing on July 30th


what is up with that?

folks are waiting for a TGF tour, and then this? unless Candlebox w/special guests= TGF?

am so very confused..

[FishOutaWater]

Just trying to objectively look at the facts of the break-up. I can clearly see a creative difference and a struggle for creative control at the end of Live. I am sure that colored some of the feelings and strain at the end. Now, both parties are moving in different creative directions and it really suits both of them better than a bad marriage in Live.

What I can't get around, and I don't see how Nick or Ed can get around, are the statements about the secret contracts and demands for extra money behind the band's back. Either (1) it happened as Chad says it did, (2) none of it happened, or (3) it happened, but it was exaggerated and there is another side of the story that doesn't make Ed look bad.

I want to know where Ed stands on this, but he isn't going to address it. If Sally is correct about legal action being taken, then I am sure that Ed's lawyer has instructed him not to address these issues with anyone. That's why we haven't heard anything from Ed, not because he is some mature magnanimous guy. I doubt that he wants to stand buy and allow statements that he thinks are untrue go unchallenged when they can have a direct negative impact on his beloved career and business. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the legal actions and lawyers advice are the reason why TGF has suddenly done a 180 degree turn and become so supportive of Ed and his new projects in the FOL emails. If there is legal action, communications from both sides will be carefully scripted.

I asked where Nick stands on this, and I think he said he believes number (3).

I am sure that there is another side of the story. There is ALWAYS another side to every story. I am sure that Ed thinks he has another side to the story. The question is, is their any truth to Ed's side of the story, or is it just what he believes, because he is unable to see himself as being wrong and being entitled to take everything he was trying to take. I think that Ed believes he is right in doing whatever he did. It is human nature for people who do things that stir up hurt feelings in others to think in their minds that they were justified and they are on the side of the angels. Not many people screw other people over and think in their hearts that they know they are really a bad person doing bad things and they just don't care and don't have a conscience. They just can't see it objectively and they think they are right, even if they aren't. Eventually, through self-awareness and objectivity, they might see they were wrong and see how they hurt other people.

I don't think (2) is the answer because I don't think that Chad just made up the story and lied. Based on my direct, personal experiences with the honest, forthcoming character of Chad, Chad and Patrick, I tended to believe the story that Chad told. Particularly in the absence of any defense by Ed.

If Ed has his own side of the story, that doesn't make his side any more true than Chad's, even if Ed and Nick both believe it.

According to Sally, it sounds like a judge or jury may decide where the truth lies. Is this a publicly filed case or is it filed under seal? What court? What jurisdiction. If there is a case, the record should be publicly available.