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post Jun 2 2010, 2:31 pm
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I can see people stating Ed's songs and lyrics "don't have a meaning at all" nowadays, but as this man has been a real inspiration with his lyrics for me, I think it's good to start a thread about the meaning of his newer songs. They might look more simple or bland, you can think what you want, but it's always interesting to discuss the lyrics.

By that, I think it's cool of Ed he explains on Facebook what Grace is about for example (after he was asked to).

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Ed Kowalczyk (Ed K) Hi P Celine, the "who" that is "wrong" in the Grace lyric isn't really directed at anyone in particular. It's directed at the worldview that denies grace, or reasons for hope, the view that maintains that there isn't an ultimate purpose or meaning to life. Funny thing is, even people of faith, like i consider myself, need to be reminded of it constantly. "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."


So nothing TGF related (not that I expected that). A quite universal message, like Forever.


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post Jun 2 2010, 11:56 pm
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"The greatest of teachers won't hesitate to leave you there by yourself chained to fate."

That one line has 12 times more meaning and intrigue than this whole song.



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post Jun 5 2010, 9:22 am
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Jun 3 2010, 12:56 am) *

"The greatest of teachers won't hesitate to leave you there by yourself chained to fate."

That one line has 12 times more meaning and intrigue than this whole song.



Hmmmmm, interesting you chose to post those particular lyrics. Completely appropriate under the circumstances, as it is exactly where The EK will be "finding" himself very, very soon. Quite sad and oh so unnecessary.


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post Jun 5 2010, 10:12 pm
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QUOTE(sallyinpa @ Jun 5 2010, 10:22 pm) *

Hmmmmm, interesting you chose to post those particular lyrics. Completely appropriate under the circumstances, as it is exactly where The EK will be "finding" himself very, very soon. Quite sad and oh so unnecessary.


is he gonna get bannished out to sea with his anchor up also?

you keep posting cryptic messages that imply you know a lot more than us. i know you're like the mother of someone close to the band or something but cant you just let us in on this impending doom you keep hinting at?



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post Jun 7 2010, 12:39 pm
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QUOTE(Wambangalang @ Jun 5 2010, 11:12 pm) *

is he gonna get bannished out to sea with his anchor up also?

you keep posting cryptic messages that imply you know a lot more than us. i know you're like the mother of someone close to the band or something but cant you just let us in on this impending doom you keep hinting at?



Not meant to be cryptic at all. It's public knowledge that legal proceedings are in place. Chad T. made that perfectly clear in his letter for all to read regarding the break up of Live. Bannished out to sea, doubt it but isn't it possible that he might find himself alone? Cheating/turning on your longtime friends will catch up with you in the end. Ya know what they say about that Kharma Bus.


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QUOTE(sallyinpa @ Jun 7 2010, 1:39 pm) *

Not meant to be cryptic at all. It's public knowledge that legal proceedings are in place. Chad T. made that perfectly clear in his letter for all to read regarding the break up of Live. Bannished out to sea, doubt it but isn't it possible that he might find himself alone? Cheating/turning on your longtime friends will catch up with you in the end. Ya know what they say about that Kharma Bus.


Ed wrote pretty much every +LiVe+ song so the rest of the members don't have a legal leg to stand on! So pipe down! rockin.gif


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post Jun 8 2010, 7:41 pm
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Ed wrote pretty much every +LiVe+ song so the rest of the members don't have a legal leg to stand on! So pipe down! rockin.gif



That's not true. Certainly on the last 3 albums, and ironically they were complete shit.


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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jun 8 2010, 8:41 pm) *

That's not true. Certainly on the last 3 albums, and ironically they were complete shit.


Last 4 albums.


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post Jun 8 2010, 7:49 pm
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QUOTE(LivesMeltdown @ Jun 8 2010, 8:45 pm) *

Last 4 albums.



Actually the band had some serious input on TDTH.

Pat contributed lyrics on "Run to the Water" and "They Stood Up For Love".

Chad Taylor contributed lyrics to "Voodoo Lady" and "They Stood Up For Love".

They band contributed music to all of the songs.

So yes, I was correct. Ed wrote the last 3 albums, and they were complete shit.


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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jun 8 2010, 8:49 pm) *

Actually the band had some serious input on TDTH.

Pat contributed lyrics on "Run to the Water" and "They Stood Up For Love".

Chad Taylor contributed lyrics to "Voodoo Lady" and "They Stood Up For Love".

They band contributed music to all of the songs.

So yes, I was correct. Ed wrote the last 3 albums, and they were complete shit.


Actually, you are incorrect. All lyrics on the album are credited to Ed. The music on Run to the Water, Voodoo Lady, and They Stood Up For Love are credited to multiple members of the band.

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SecretInsomnia   Meaning of the songs on "Alive"   Jun 2 2010, 2:31 pm
Merica   To be honest, it could be directed at TGF. He woul...   Jun 2 2010, 2:33 pm
LivesMeltdown   To be honest, it could be directed at TGF. He wou...   Jun 2 2010, 2:41 pm
SecretInsomnia   To be honest, it could be directed at TGF. He wou...   Jun 2 2010, 2:47 pm
Pokey   Dude that shit is DEEP! It's not about T...   Jun 2 2010, 3:15 pm
OutToDry   I have photoshopped that caption from yesterday......   Jun 2 2010, 3:20 pm
dangum   I have photoshopped that caption from yesterday.....   Jun 2 2010, 8:10 pm
Senghe   I have photoshopped that caption from yesterday.....   Jun 5 2010, 4:33 am
OutToDry   not tonight, have to go to the hospital tonight   Jun 2 2010, 8:13 pm
Lori Ann   I think the lyrics are awesome and his comment abo...   Jun 2 2010, 11:34 pm
crazy1   Not meant to be cryptic at all. It's public ...   Jun 7 2010, 1:50 pm
imheyjude   Not meant to be cryptic at all. It's public ...   Jun 7 2010, 2:13 pm
SinfulEyes   Not meant to be cryptic at all. It's public ...   Jun 7 2010, 2:41 pm
Sakhmet2   Not meant to be cryptic at all. It's public ...   Jun 7 2010, 5:13 pm
Aitkens   Actually, you are incorrect. All lyrics on the a...   Jun 8 2010, 8:03 pm
OutToDry   Ed wrote pretty much every +LiVe+ song so the r...   Jun 8 2010, 8:20 pm
VoodooLady   This is the most rediculous post ever written on ...   Jun 8 2010, 8:38 pm
VoodooLady   Ed wrote pretty much every +LiVe+ song so the res...   Jun 8 2010, 8:36 pm
Sonic Tonic   Ed wrote pretty much every +LiVe+ song so the res...   Jun 8 2010, 8:52 pm
+Ed+   not tonight, have to go to the hospital tonight ...   Jun 3 2010, 12:24 am
dancing queen   anyone have the lyrics to zion? I've been list...   Jun 4 2010, 9:22 pm
Sakhmet2   [b]I read an interview where he said that he was ...   Jun 5 2010, 6:06 am
Pokey   Kind of like the way people hate successful mains...   Jun 5 2010, 6:17 am
Sakhmet2   This isn't exactly true. I'm sure none of...   Jun 5 2010, 6:56 am
Aitkens   This isn't exactly true. I'm sure none of...   Jun 5 2010, 6:57 am
Pokey   Nick did. The music back then was just too aggre...   Jun 5 2010, 7:47 am
SinfulEyes   Nick did. The music back then was just too aggre...   Jun 7 2010, 2:38 pm
+Ed+   In 1995, Live were "alternative", massi...   Jun 5 2010, 7:21 am
Sakhmet2   Good that you put alternative in inverted commas ...   Jun 5 2010, 7:27 am
Pokey   It depends on how someone is defining the term. I...   Jun 5 2010, 7:46 am
+Ed+   My definition of mainstream is the current popular...   Jun 5 2010, 7:40 am
dinkibass   I don't think the new songs are 'meaningle...   Jun 6 2010, 2:06 am
VoodooLady   there is nothing deep or personal about spouting ...   Jun 6 2010, 7:24 am
Sakhmet2   I don't think the new songs are 'meaningl...   Jun 6 2010, 8:05 am
LivesMeltdown   "life is like a shooting star, it don't m...   Jun 6 2010, 7:33 am
LivesMeltdown   I thought I read that Ed wrote Lightning Crashes a...   Jun 8 2010, 8:13 pm
Liveman94   I guess my point was that he wrote most of the a...   Jun 8 2010, 8:18 pm
Liveman94   Actually Chad Taylor and Patrick Dalheimer are cre...   Jun 8 2010, 8:15 pm
OutToDry   Yeah, the Kharma Bus.....I can't wait to see w...   Jun 8 2010, 8:16 pm
+Ed+   I thought I read that Ed wrote Lightning Crashes ...   Jun 8 2010, 11:55 pm
Pokey   More than that, LC he wrote while being 13, Adam ...   Jun 9 2010, 3:23 am
Sakhmet2   More than that, LC he wrote while being 13, Adam ...   Jun 9 2010, 8:40 am
+Ed+   Aw, thanks for the correction! I still rememb...   Jun 9 2010, 4:11 am
+Ed+   TRUE! Thanks a lot!   Jun 9 2010, 10:29 am


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