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The Gracious Few Honest Man will be available on iTunes Tuesday June 8th!!! Go get it and ware it out! Upcoming shows...June 25th Summerfest in Milwaukee WI and June 29th, The Troubadour in LA. See you there!!! For the latest schedule check out www.thegraciousfew.com


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Just downloaded the track from Amazon. Great way to start my Monday morning. The Honest Man single and a giant Red Bull. Might punch someone!




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post Jun 7 2010, 9:55 am
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I love listening to Honest Man and I think it is a great song. But the thing that worries me is that it does not have any anthemic quality to it. The same goes for Tredecim. There is no catchy or memorable chorus. I honestly can't remember how the song goes in between listens. I laid in bed this morning trying to remember how the song goes and I couldn't remember. That is a concern that I have from the popularity and radio request perspective. I think this music can be compared to Audioslave, but Audioslave's popular songs that drove album sales, like "Like a Stone" for instance, had a very memorable chorus. Great rock can be great and also have a chorus that sticks with you. Look at "Enter Sandman" by Metallica. I think the first single needs something like that so that this thing catches fire commercially. Why do I care about the commercial success? Because I want TGF to be back with a second and third album and I don't want this to be a one-shot experiment. I'm just worried, that's all.


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post Jun 7 2010, 10:21 am
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jun 8 2010, 12:55 am) *

I love listening to Honest Man and I think it is a great song. But the thing that worries me is that it does not have any anthemic quality to it. The same goes for Tredecim. There is no catchy or memorable chorus. I honestly can't remember how the song goes in between listens. I laid in bed this morning trying to remember how the song goes and I couldn't remember. That is a concern that I have from the popularity and radio request perspective. I think this music can be compared to Audioslave, but Audioslave's popular songs that drove album sales, like "Like a Stone" for instance, had a very memorable chorus. Great rock can be great and also have a chorus that sticks with you. Look at "Enter Sandman" by Metallica. I think the first single needs something like that so that this thing catches fire commercially. Why do I care about the commercial success? Because I want TGF to be back with a second and third album and I don't want this to be a one-shot experiment. I'm just worried, that's all.


I can see what you mean, but in the same light, I can't get the chorus of Tredecim out of my head. Also whilst the words to Honest Man might not flow in that catchy kind of way, the riff to me is pure crack. I can't get enough of it.
Either way, these are things to worry about only from a Nick perspective like you say. I'm less concerned about how the rest of the world will perceive it and more so about how much I'll personally like it.
I'd like them to be successful too because like you say I'd like to hear more of them, but it's a catch 22, if they tried to write something purely to be more marketable then it might not sound as good naturally and hearing more of them might not be a good thing.
They deserve to be successful ... in the end, they'll earn new fans, people who truely appreciate the music, fans that are more devoted and care more about the music than the market Ed is going for.


I think to a lot of old school Live fans, TGF is incredibly personal. We fell in love with Live in the early days and the music meant to much to us. Then we had years of watching the band fall to shit, like watching a loved one get ruined by a drug habit or something and it hurt a lot of us to see it. TGF, whilst not exactly "old school Live", is finally something a lot of us have been hanging out for for years. I think it'll win a lot of people over with passion. As for the casual listener, it's not going to be aimed at the same casual market that Ed's music is ... the people who know more about music and look for things that are more than just skin deep are the people it'll pick up, and those are the people that don't always rely on a catchy chorus to enjoy their music.

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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jun 7 2010, 11:21 am) *

I can see what you mean, but in the same light, I can't get the chorus of Tredecim out of my head. Also whilst the words to Honest Man might not flow in that catchy kind of way, the riff to me is pure crack. I can't get enough of it.
Either way, these are things to worry about only from a Nick perspective like you say. I'm less concerned about how the rest of the world will perceive it and more so about how much I'll personally like it.
I'd like them to be successful too because like you say I'd like to hear more of them, but it's a catch 22, if they tried to write something purely to be more marketable then it might not sound as good naturally and hearing more of them might not be a good thing.
They deserve to be successful ... in the end, they'll earn new fans, people who truely appreciate the music, fans that are more devoted and care more about the music than the market Ed is going for.
I think to a lot of old school Live fans, TGF is incredibly personal. We fell in love with Live in the early days and the music meant to much to us. Then we had years of watching the band fall to shit, like watching a loved one get ruined by a drug habit or something and it hurt a lot of us to see it. TGF, whilst not exactly "old school Live", is finally something a lot of us have been hanging out for for years. I think it'll win a lot of people over with passion. As for the casual listener, it's not going to be aimed at the same casual market that Ed's music is ... the people who know more about music and look for things that are more than just skin deep are the people it'll pick up, and those are the people that don't always rely on a catchy chorus to enjoy their music.


These are my same exact thoughts! Nicely put! I agree that the chorus from Tredecim is hard to forget and is always stuck in my head. Appetite has that same affect on me. I think either one of those could be a huge radio hit for anyone with taste, which isn't saying much considering what is popular right now. Apparently most people don't have any taste. But for some reason I'm really hoping this band catches on or they at least end up with some sort of following that will support them through another album and tour. You don't have to hugely popular radio wise in order to make a go at it so I don't think it would be the end of them if they didn't have a huge hit. Honest Man isn't quite as catchy but I think it will appeal to a certain type of music fan out there, we just have to hope they get to hear it somehow since I would think most people that really like good music don't listen to the radio all that much. It's weird the way things are nowadays and I would hate to be in a band trying to figure all of this shit out!

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LivesMeltdown   Honest Man on Itunes   Jun 4 2010, 3:47 pm
AgentK7   That's good news, I'm surprised they waite...   Jun 5 2010, 10:44 am
LivesMeltdown   I'm surprised they haven't announced a rel...   Jun 5 2010, 12:44 pm
Pokey   I'm surprised they haven't announced a re...   Jun 5 2010, 1:23 pm
LivesMeltdown   So long as you live in the US ... fuck I hate whe...   Jun 5 2010, 1:28 pm
Pokey   Don't they have Amazon.com for other countrie...   Jun 5 2010, 2:13 pm
AgentK7   I'm surprised they haven't announced a re...   Jun 5 2010, 3:33 pm
+Ed+   Has anyone bought it already? ...   Jun 5 2010, 1:32 pm
LivesMeltdown   Has anyone bought it already? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease?...   Jun 5 2010, 1:37 pm
SctSamadhi   Me :) I just picked it up also :rockin: This...   Jun 6 2010, 8:10 am
Bob   I don't think I've purchased a music track...   Jun 5 2010, 1:54 pm
+Ed+   Danm, the qulity version sounds absolutely WICKEEE...   Jun 6 2010, 2:12 am
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Sonic Tonic   I love listening to Honest Man and I think it is ...   Jun 7 2010, 10:05 am
GraciousLivEddieK?   I can see what you mean, but in the same light, I...   Jun 8 2010, 1:03 pm
tiger   I love listening to Honest Man and I think it is ...   Jun 7 2010, 10:33 am
Costakoui   I love listening to Honest Man and I think it is ...   Jun 8 2010, 12:54 am
+Ed+   To me the chorus is "catchy as fuck" and...   Jun 7 2010, 10:10 am
sh4rpz   To me the chorus is "catchy as fuck" an...   Jun 7 2010, 2:18 pm
Pokey   That's true about popularity not always going ...   Jun 7 2010, 10:50 am
Heather   It's true, I've been a fan of many differe...   Jun 7 2010, 11:49 am
LiveFan92   I don't buy singles from iTunes, etc -- why pa...   Jun 7 2010, 11:52 am
BERLINONE   Friends, Don't ask where this came from. Th...   Jun 7 2010, 1:09 pm
Pokey   Friends, Don't ask where this came from. T...   Jun 8 2010, 3:18 am
BERLINONE   :no: Gotta be bought! :banana: I definit...   Jun 8 2010, 7:31 am
+Ed+   http://i044.radikal.ru/1006/2b/0587351ef244t.jpg ...   Jun 8 2010, 2:23 am
OutToDry   Yeah....pay up!!!   Jun 8 2010, 3:27 am
FishOutaWater   Download Honest Man from iTunes... check. Write v...   Jun 8 2010, 4:55 am
thefunkyredcaboose   Bought off of Amazon, love TGF but can't suppo...   Jun 8 2010, 6:38 am
Infrequent Poster   Bought off of Amazon, love TGF but can't supp...   Jun 8 2010, 9:37 am
Pokey   What sources would you recommend for better quali...   Jun 8 2010, 9:44 am
FishOutaWater   I listened to Tredecim and Honest Man several time...   Jun 8 2010, 10:02 am
Liveoneut   All I can say is WOW!!!!!...   Jun 8 2010, 7:01 am
+Ed+   If I wrote what my heart and soul were feeling r...   Jun 8 2010, 7:06 am
OutToDry   Purchased.   Jun 8 2010, 7:16 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I am glad that new people are checking out the son...   Jun 8 2010, 7:23 am
crazy1   Can't wait for the whole cd to come out!...   Jun 8 2010, 8:29 am
LivesMeltdown   I'm not positive, but didn't all members o...   Jun 8 2010, 10:44 am
Liveoneut   After listening all morning, I have to say that Ke...   Jun 8 2010, 11:47 am
Wildman   I have listened to all TGF songs for about a hundr...   Jun 8 2010, 12:59 pm
GraciousLivEddieK?   By the way, I don't care if anyone has downloa...   Jun 8 2010, 1:07 pm
FishOutaWater   By the way, I don't care if anyone has downlo...   Jun 9 2010, 8:05 am
Liveoneut   The enjoyment that I get from the music and the s...   Jun 9 2010, 8:37 am
LivesMeltdown   I don't think this was posted, but I apologize...   Jun 8 2010, 8:22 pm
Liveman94   I don't think this was posted, but I apologiz...   Jun 8 2010, 8:25 pm
livebat   Got it!!! XD   Jun 8 2010, 10:59 pm
mattdm11   good song, but like everything else nowadays, the ...   Jun 9 2010, 9:38 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   good song, but like everything else nowadays, the...   Jun 10 2010, 12:03 am
OutToDry   Everyone buy the stuff. I read an article on AA ...   Jun 9 2010, 11:48 pm
dangum   Everyone buy the stuff. I read an article on AA...   Jun 10 2010, 6:16 am
Pokey   I just read an interesting article. Since CD sale...   Jun 10 2010, 7:05 am
+Ed+   Wow, the industry is really dying.   Jun 10 2010, 6:31 am


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