Pre-order "Alive" and receive tickets to CD release concert! Options

[SJN1279]

If you preorder the CD "Alive" at FreeRecordShop.nl now, you receive two tickets for a special concert featuring Ed Kowalczyk in Amsterdam on June 26, 2010(the same date as the album's release in Europe).

http://www.freerecordshop.nl/search/Kowalczyk

[LivesMeltdown]

I don't post much on or even read most threads on Ed's anymore is not because I don't have a backbone but because I don't really don't feel like getting in a pissing match about some stupid crap. The main problem I have is reading on every single thread 50 or 60 times by the same posters that the music I listen to sucks or that I don't listen to is real music. There are times where I see who posted last and I know exactly what I'm going to read so why even bother. Take this thread for example, if TGF does the same thing they would get praised but Ed gets ridiculed for it. For the reason that he sells coffee on his website. Now, I'll never buy it but is that really a big deal. If there is a market for it and people buy and like it, so why not sell it. We live in a capitalist society and no one has to buy it if they don't want to.

Now, I don't care if people don't like Ed, TGF, or if someone hates both projects, that's everyone's right but to me it's like a broken record. Maybe it's because I try not to dwell on stuff I don't like, but focus on the things I do like. To me it seems hypocritical that people attack Nick for posting negative stuff in TGF forums, but do the same thing in Ed's forums. Nick has his reasons just like I'm sure the people that post about Ed but it goes both ways. Personally, I wish it would stop on both sides because it doesn't help either side. That's not to say someone shouldn't say anything negative about either Ed or TGF but the constant bitching and moaning is annoying, at least to me. It's kinda ruined a little of my excitement of both albums, but that's why I made the decision not to read or post about too much.

But this is just my opinion, so blast away I'm just ready for the summer time to finally hear some new music.

This post has been edited by LivesMeltdown: May 30 2010, 7:17 am

[SctSamadhi]

I don't post much on or even read most threads on Ed's anymore is not because I don't have a backbone but because I don't really don't feel like getting in a pissing match about some stupid crap. The main problem I have is reading on every single thread 50 or 60 times by the same posters that the music I listen to sucks or that I don't listen to is real music. There are times where I see who posted last and I know exactly what I'm going to read so why even bother. Take this thread for example, if TGF does the same thing they would get praised but Ed gets ridiculed for it. For the reason that he sells coffee on his website. Now, I'll never buy it but is that really a big deal. If there is a market for it and people buy and like it, so why not sell it. We live in a capitalist society and no one has to buy it if they don't want to.

Now, I don't care if people don't like Ed, TGF, or if someone hates both projects, that's everyone's right but to me it's like a broken record. Maybe it's because I try not to dwell on stuff I don't like, but focus on the things I do like. To me it seems hypocritical that people attack Nick for posting negative stuff in TGF forums, but do the same thing in Ed's forums. Nick has his reasons just like I'm sure the people that post about Ed but it goes both ways. Personally, I wish it would stop on both sides because it doesn't help either side. That's not to say someone shouldn't say anything negative about either Ed or TGF but the constant bitching and moaning is annoying, at least to me. It's kinda ruined a little of my excitement of both albums, but that's why I made the decision not to read or post about too much.

But this is just my opinion, so blast away I'm just ready for the summer time to finally hear some new music.

My comments last night were driven by beer consumption but it's how I feel about the band. I'm not here to pick fights or piss people off. LIVE has been my favorite band since the early 90's and I do think Ed was the one that was responsible for the music taking the different direction it has over the past 10 years. While I still bought the albums and listened to their music, it just wasn't the same Live for me. Add on to that some of the stories that have come out about Ed (yeah you can say they are just stories, but frankly there are too many of them) and it just adds fuel to the fire.

So I went to TGF's show on Thursday. The show was awesome, the music rocked, the guys had great energy and were having fun, for me it took me back to my first Live concert (Stabler Arena, Bethlehem, 1994). Yes TGF is not Live, nor are they Candlebox. They are one thing that Live hasn't been for awhile and that's a true rock band. They are the type of band I could listen to for the next 17 years . They are the type of band I could see in concert 20 times. They are the type of band I could drive to Canada to see. They are a band I'd wait in line for hours to purchase a new album. They are the type of band who's album could be in the CD player in my car without being taken out for years to come.

For me TGF is a new beginning and I can't wait for the album to come out. I can understand Nick's position because he became a fan of Ed's LIVE where one person was driving the creative direction of the band over the last so many years. That's the music he enjoys. The majority of us that are excited for TGF became fans of the LIVE of the 90's where the 4 members of the band were ALL involved in the creative process that produced the music we came to love.

My only comment to Nick is practice what you preach. I'd be more then happy to keep my negative comments about Ed out of this thread if you agree to do the same with the TGF thread. We all know you don't like the band which is your choice.

Ok, that's enough blabbering for now. I'll go back to the TGF thread....

[LivesMeltdown]

My comments last night were driven by beer consumption but it's how I feel about the band. I'm not here to pick fights or piss people off. LIVE has been my favorite band since the early 90's and I do think Ed was the one that was responsible for the music taking the different direction it has over the past 10 years. While I still bought the albums and listened to their music, it just wasn't the same Live for me. Add on to that some of the stories that have come out about Ed (yeah you can say they are just stories, but frankly there are too many of them) and it just adds fuel to the fire.

So I went to TGF's show on Thursday. The show was awesome, the music rocked, the guys had great energy and were having fun, for me it took me back to my first Live concert (Stabler Arena, Bethlehem, 1994). Yes TGF is not Live, nor are they Candlebox. They are one thing that Live hasn't been for awhile and that's a true rock band. They are the type of band I could listen to for the next 17 years . They are the type of band I could see in concert 20 times. They are the type of band I could drive to Canada to see. They are a band I'd wait in line for hours to purchase a new album. They are the type of band who's album could be in the CD player in my car without being taken out for years to come.

For me TGF is a new beginning and I can't wait for the album to come out. I can understand Nick's position because he became a fan of Ed's LIVE where one person was driving the creative direction of the band over the last so many years. That's the music he enjoys. The majority of us that are excited for TGF became fans of the LIVE of the 90's where the 4 members of the band were ALL involved in the creative process that produced the music we came to love.

My only comment to Nick is practice what you preach. I'd be more then happy to keep my negative comments about Ed out of this thread if you agree to do the same with the TGF thread. We all know you don't like the band which is your choice.

Ok, that's enough blabbering for now. I'll go back to the TGF thread....

That's awesome how genuinely excited you are for TGF. I can't wait to see them in concert also.

As for me, I like both styles of music, which I guess is good for me. Double the pleasure and that's how I'm trying to think about this Live split. Live was the band that got me into music 16 years ago (Throwing Copper was the 1st cd I ever bought). Now I get double the music! Even though I still would rather have Live together, I know that's not gonna happen for a long time...if ever! I just want to enjoy both sides and hopefully TGF and Ed give me that excitement.