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post May 12 2010, 2:19 am
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Making this thread in this cathegory as really it concerns the whole band, previously known as Live.

I hate and detest the way people try to compare Ed's solo and TGF.

Some scream: Ed is poppy wanking-ass faggot.

Other go: TGF shovel shit with pseudo-old-school hard.

How the fuck can you compare two absolutely DIFFERENT music pieces, one of which being polished and groomed modern post-grunge and another one - raw and solid grungy hard?

No comparison can be made. Absolutely NO. And I am more than glad that to me both new ventures sound absolutely nothing like Live. Well, maybe Zion to some extent. But anyhoo.

TGF will not be the good band to back-up Everlasting love.

Ed's voice will not be good enough for 13.

Leave them alone. Keep clashing aboard, but without comparison.



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post May 12 2010, 2:37 am
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I'll just say that Ed's music sucks camel cock in my opinion. The man can still sing, but the music itself is boring and sounds the exact same as everything else he's done for the past ten years. The lyrics are rehashed and stale and everybody except Nick knows it.

As for the LIVE- TGF comparison? That's just stupid. Different music altogether. Live's music was spiritual and anthemic and I'll always cherish the older stuff.

TGF's is throwback rock and way more based around guitar and drum work. Nick can whine all he fucking wants about how unoriginal it is, while listening to Ed's rehashed garbage that is as unoriginal as it gets. But fact is, and I listened to Alan Cross talk about this on his music show, is that it's virtually impossible to be original nowadays. So much music has been made, that you're bound to sound, and to be compared, to somebody else. To top it off, every single band out there has musical influences, that's a given. So how the fuck is your music not going to sound like somebody elses in some regard.

It just shows me how little Nick knows about music. His petty arguments are disgustingly infantile. Everything Ed does is gold, never mind the fact he sold out even his children for a small profit. Sold out his lifelong friends for money. Selling phone calls for money. Ripping off his zombie fans with dollar store jewelry for a hundred bucks. Not to mention the fact that he just uses everyone, including his fans, for personal gain. How people continue to support somebody like that is way beyond me.

I appreciate Ed for what he did early on with Live. But I'm thoroughly disgusted and disappointed with what this guy became. I can't support any human being who is that superficial and greedy.


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post May 12 2010, 2:46 am
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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ May 12 2010, 5:37 pm) *

It just shows me how little Nick knows about music. His petty arguments are disgustingly infantile. Everything Ed does is gold, never mind the fact he sold out even his children for a small profit. Sold out his lifelong friends for money. Selling phone calls for money. Ripping off his zombie fans with dollar store jewelry for a hundred bucks. Not to mention the fact that he just uses everyone, including his fans, for personal gain. How people continue to support somebody like that is way beyond me.


Don't forget the stick figure drawing stage!

While we're making comparisons though .. I went and watched that White Discussion circa 1995 video that was posted in the media section the other day ... it blows my mind for a few reasons.

Watching them rock the fuck out, watching CT literally collapse on stage and then throw his guitar and drop and amp on it ... that is pure rock'n'roll, to think 10 years later they were playing The River ... now I know it's stated that bands "mature" and all that, but still. Just amazing how much changed.

Second point, Ed in the video is skipping around the stage, SKIPPING, waving his arms about, dancing ... in text it sounds the same as what he does right now. But for some reason back then with credibility he made it look cool! It's amazing what a bit of credibility did ... if someone back then that didn't much know the band made the comment "wtf is that pansy doing skipping around the stage like that?" .. my first reaction would be "Dude, this pansy will knock you the fuck out with his musical credibility, listen to their new album Throwing Copper, if the man who sings on the song "stage" wants to skip for a bit, then the man skips for a bit and has some fun".

When someone makes the same comment circa 2010, I just .. have no way to reply in his defence.

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+Ed+   no comparison   May 12 2010, 2:19 am
Pokey   hhmmmzz, now what's the use in this thread? :...   May 12 2010, 2:26 am
+Ed+   People are always going to compare them because o...   May 12 2010, 2:27 am
Hoodstock   That's what I really do mostly hate. Just li...   May 12 2010, 4:11 pm
Pokey   I'm not sure if anyone is saying TGF is the le...   May 12 2010, 2:30 am
LiveFan92   I'm not sure if anyone is saying TGF is the l...   May 12 2010, 5:05 pm
Infrequent Poster   Um, according to some posters here, they are BETT...   May 12 2010, 6:35 pm
LiveFan92   I don't think anyone's going that far. T...   May 14 2010, 1:59 pm
Pokey   I get tired of fans of TGF acting like this new ...   May 14 2010, 2:05 pm
Infrequent Poster   Without the unnecessary hyperbole, think of how b...   May 14 2010, 5:24 pm
Sakhmet2   Um, according to some posters here, they are BETT...   May 13 2010, 10:00 pm
+Ed+   Luke is gonna post smth huge here, I feel.. Has be...   May 12 2010, 2:31 am
LiveRoCkS77   Luke is gonna post smth huge here, I feel.. Has b...   May 12 2010, 2:38 am
TheBeacon   Sorry, playing poker on pokerstars at the same ti...   May 12 2010, 5:07 pm
Pokey   haha I was thinking the same thing .. maybe he...   May 12 2010, 2:35 am
+Ed+   As for the LIVE- TGF comparison? That's just ...   May 12 2010, 2:39 am
+Ed+   And here is what says the man who became a fan in ...   May 12 2010, 2:49 am
Pokey   And here is what says the man who became a fan in...   May 12 2010, 2:58 am
+Ed+   What. I remember you were saying you started liste...   May 12 2010, 3:03 am
Wambangalang   :banana: :banana: :banana:   May 12 2010, 3:48 am
+Ed+   :banana: :banana: :banana: nnnnnnnnnoooooooooo...   May 12 2010, 3:50 am
Wambangalang   although id love to see this thing unfold wihout i...   May 12 2010, 3:54 am
+Ed+   Well, no question, I also got into Live in 1999 an...   May 12 2010, 4:25 am
Pokey   haha yes I was Herzeleid .. and been a fan since M...   May 12 2010, 4:37 am
+Ed+   Lighthouse does have a wicked guitar quacking ther...   May 12 2010, 4:52 am
Nobody Knows   Lighthouse does have a wicked guitar quacking the...   May 12 2010, 4:18 pm
OutToDry   Where do I begin. Oh yeah, I am the tgf superfan. ...   May 12 2010, 10:57 pm
Infrequent Poster   If it wasn't Ed singing it I'd have sworn ...   May 12 2010, 11:03 pm
Bremang   music which was inspired by 5 guys mmmmmm, 5 G...   May 13 2010, 9:32 pm
OutToDry   that was an abortion, a total hack of a great soun...   May 12 2010, 11:30 pm
+Ed+   Um, according to some posters here, they are BETT...   May 13 2010, 12:55 am
Nobody Knows   Ed has refused to discuss the break-up, which is ...   May 14 2010, 2:18 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   So, Ed seems more mature because he doesn't ac...   May 14 2010, 3:46 pm


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