Just in Time, 5th May 2010, Amsterdam Options

[dangum]

Found a collection of videos from the Ed [full band] show in Amsterdam. One of the new tracks is titled "Just in Time"

Just in Time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzbTyWmMnLE

Links to other tracks can be found here

[Aitkens]

It makes me sick to see him performing the classic Live tracks without the band. Go ahead, play the crap from V, BOP, and SFBM. Just stay away from everything on MJ, TC, SS, and TDTH.

[SJN1279]

It makes me sick to see him performing the classic Live tracks without the band. Go ahead, play the crap from V, BOP, and SFBM. Just stay away from everything on MJ, TC, SS, and TDTH.

But you're okay with TGF playing Live songs with Kevin Martin?

[Pokey]

But you're okay with TGF playing Live songs with Kevin Martin?

I'm ok with both bands playing Live songs, so long as it doesn't dominate the setlists .. 2-3 songs max should do it. They split for a reason. I do like TGF's idea though of playing more obscure ones than the typical same old ones. Even CT said that Ed has got the right to play any Live songs he wishes, which is true ... doesn't mean he should though. Ed's band doesn't seem to have the balls to pull off the earlier Live work, so sticking to the latter stuff probably just suits them better. Who knows how Kevin will go with the Live vocals, but at least he'll be doing songs we're not used to hearing so it won't be such a shock.

But yeah, what I'd really hope for is both bands playing their new albums in full in concert. I really hope Ed doesn't just do 6-7 songs from his album and then everything else Live stuff ... that'll just hurt his credibility even more.

This post has been edited by Pokey: May 7 2010, 6:18 am

[SJN1279]

But yeah, what I'd really hope for is both bands playing their new albums in full in concert. I really hope Ed doesn't just do 6-7 songs from his album and then everything else Live stuff ... that'll just hurt his credibility even more.

Ed playing live songs will bring people to the show. The general public go to concerts to hear songs that they know. He is also touring as Ed Kowalczyk of Live, so people will be expecting to hear the hits. The songs will sound differently a bit to hardcores because these guys haven't been playing Live songs for 10-15 years, but they are talented musicians and it will still sound good..

If TGF plays only obscure Live/Candlebox songs, it will fall flat with the majority of the audience. I'm sure they will pull off I Alone,Cover Me etc.

[Pokey]

Ed playing live songs will bring people to the show. The general public go to concerts to hear songs that they know. He is also touring as Ed Kowalczyk of Live, so people will be expecting to hear the hits. The songs will sound differently a bit to hardcores because these guys haven't been playing Live songs for 10-15 years, but they are talented musicians and it will still sound good..

If TGF plays only obscure Live/Candlebox songs, it will fall flat with the majority of the audience. I'm sure they will pull off I Alone,Cover Me etc.

People that think like you don't deserve music, if you only go to concerts to hear the songs you know then .. wow. Part of the fun of concerts to me is either being blown away by a song I previously didn't think was all that great, or that I didn't even know about at all. Music should be about broadening your horizons all the time, for both artist and fan. Something you clearly don't do, and Ed doesn't do either .. you guys really are a match made in Heaven.

TGF seem to be catered more towards music fans, and if they pull out a Heropsychodreamer or Stage or something then I think that'll be a lot more appreciated than if they tried The Dolphin's Cry or Lightning Crashes. lol to touring as "Ed Kowalczyk of Live" ... that's just sad. It's akin to "The Ed Kowalczyk 'I used to be famous, please come and see my show' tour".

Also about the sounding good, hasn't sounded good from anything I've seen thus far, you're easily pleased so long as Ed is on stage. Sounds like he could be backed by a drum machine and a wobble board and you'd think it's amazing.

[Sakhmet2]

People that think like you don't deserve music, if you only go to concerts to hear the songs you know then .. wow.

Well, then most concertgoers don't deserve music either. It's a truism that the majority of the audience is there to hear songs they know. After all, a lot of people go to concerts who aren't necessarily big fans of a band who've memorized every album track.
Of course, I'm not sure you really think this. I think you're just saying this as way #68 to piss on Nick and give him a hard time.

If TGF plays only obscure Live/Candlebox songs, it will fall flat with the majority of the audience. I'm sure they will pull off I Alone,Cover Me etc.

Lead singers with distinctive vocal styles are hard to replace, so I'm not sure about those particular songs. Van Hagar is a good example of what happen when you go with the first lead singer you can find.



This post has been edited by Sakhmet2: May 7 2010, 7:34 am

[thefunkyredcaboose]

A couple of things:

1. I don't have a problem with either band playing Live songs. They are their songs. I just don't want either band marketed as "performing the songs of LIVE" which is how Ed is being marketed right now. If TGF markets themselves more than "former members of Live and Candlebox" I'll be disappointed.

2. People who go to concerts just to hear songs they know are fine, they are just casual music fans. No more, no less. What is shocking is that someone who helps run a website about a band would feel this way about music. Usually those fans are the most diehard. And no, I never say anything because I want to piss Nick off. I would just love to see him have a more open mind about music. That is all.

3.

Lead singers with distinctive vocal styles are hard to replace, so I'm not sure about those particular songs. Van Hagar is a good example of what happen when you go with the first lead singer you can find.

Van Hager who went on to sell millions more albums? I'm pretty sure that's the worst example you could have picked even if you don't like Van Hagar. What they did was smart because they went AWAY from the David Lee Roth style vocal. It changed the band, but the bands you see fail in a lead singer change are often the ones who try to get a vocalist that sounds just like the old vocalist.

As for Ed's voice being distinct, in the MJ, TC, and SS years it certainly was. Nowadays he just sounds more and more like a pop singer. He's lost a lot of what technically made him unique in his quest to sound more and more like Chris Daughtry.

[Sakhmet2]

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Van Hager who went on to sell millions more albums? I'm pretty sure that's the worst example you could have picked even if you don't like Van Hagar. What they did was smart because they went AWAY from the David Lee Roth style vocal. It changed the band, but the bands you see fail in a lead singer change are often the ones who try to get a vocalist that sounds just like the old vocalist.

As for Ed's voice being distinct, in the MJ, TC, and SS years it certainly was. Nowadays he just sounds more and more like a pop singer. He's lost a lot of what technically made him unique in his quest to sound more and more like Chris Daughtry.

But isn't selling millions of albums with a poppy/mainstream sound what some people here despise? Like Nickleback, for example? That's why I picked Van Hagar.

But Daughtry already sounded like Ed Lite.

He doesn't even look comfortable up on stage. He's just sort of swaying. I can't believe someone who used to make me want to do DIRTY things now pretty much makes me want to vomit.

I'd like to sympathize, but the thought of banging Ed has never made *me* comfortable . Now if you're looking for a substitute

This post has been edited by Sakhmet2: May 7 2010, 10:33 am