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LiveattheOasis
post Apr 12 2006, 10:34 pm
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Something I have wondered, and I am sure it is true, I just did not know Live real well at the height of their popularity. What I think is the beauty of every new album is hearing how it surprises, disappoints, and excites fans. I am sure TC disappointed MJ fans, and SS freaked out TC fans, and so and so forth. I just assume these things to be true, but maybe someone who has been a Live fan longer than me could let me know. I just think it is a healthy sign for a band to be gaining and losing fans with each album, meeting and eluding people's expectations.

So yes my question again, did Live experience the same bashing they are experiencing now with SS and TDTH? I heard it all around V and BOP.

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post Apr 15 2006, 6:43 am
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Ok I downloaded the album last night and wow, it is terrible. Seriously, if Live want to go down the pop band road that's fine, but at least make your songs less pretenious. Mystery is just an abomination with those strings, rather than working them into the song subtley it's like "HERE THAT! IT'S STRINGS! AND WE'RE LIVE AND WE DON'T HAVE A BAND MEMBER THAT PLAYS STRINGS BUT YET HERE THEY ARE! ISN'T THAT AMAZING, NOW LISTEN TO THEM FOR A SOLID 3MINS TO LET IT SINK IN!!!" .. well that's the way it comes across to me.
Mystery and Where do we go from here both are missing some sort of kick .. in the chorus you just expect that typical Live BANG! but they just rumble along and lack that typical Live charm.
Ed's voice has obviously been worked over quite a bit by Jim Fuck Off Wirt as well, people will probably rave about his vocals on this album but I think it's one of his worst efforts, so many over dubs and tweaks just seem to take the natural feel of a singer singing a song out of it.

The lyrics are just very unimaginative, just bland and uninspiring ... the best thing I can say about the album is that some of the songs are catchy and you do find yourself singing a long a bit afterwards but really that only lasts for a small amount of time.
Night of Nights I don't mind, I mean again it's not exactly breaking any boundries but as far as just a simple pop song goes that is fun to listen to it'd be my pick off the album.
Wings I find probably the catchiest song on the album, but I don't really like it .. I just find myself singing the song later on .. I still maintain that it sounds like the sort of song that would fit into the opening credits of one of those Dawson's Creek type shows.

I don't much mind Get Ready either .. it's cheesey, but it's one of the only songs that still sound like Live, it's not beautiful in the sense that Dance With You was but it's a sweet love song anyways. Which is the problem, singing about love isn't a bad thing, but an entire album of it barring one song (Home) at least I think it's just one song, I just felt myself saying "ok, I get the point".

Jim Wirt has a lot to answer for though .. he is a terrible producer for Live, he just zaps all of that raw energy and polishes it over and makes it as bland as possible. What happened to Jerry Harrilson(sp?) not that I'm one of these "they need to go back to him!" type people because there are plenty of fish in the sea as far as good producers go .. but did Live and him have a falling out or what?

Anyways, like I said this one is my least favorite Live album by a mile, the only listenable songs to me are 'Get Ready', 'Night of Nights' and probably 'Sofia' .. the problem with Sofia is it could have been so much better .. listen to those early live versions of it where Taylor seemed to just do his own little jams along to it, you could imagine no 2 times they played it would it be exactly the same. The guitars were really rip roaring .. but the studio version has been de-sexed, it's the same polished boring guitar looped over and over. The exact same thing happend with Life Marches On.

Here's hoping they learn from this album, I'm still somewhat hopefuly for the next album .. I don't know why, maybe my faith is in them not sitting around going "hey guys, do you wanna make another album of lovey pop songs with Jim Wirt? I reckon that would be a fresh idea!" ... surely they're going to move on from this phase... aren't they?


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LiveattheOasis   Comment about the New Album   Apr 12 2006, 10:34 pm
valleygirl   No, there was not too much controversary. Some peo...   Apr 13 2006, 12:11 am
Gertjan   When SS came out, there was bashing too. "Puk...   Apr 13 2006, 1:49 am
jonesy   I remember there was a bit of negativety towards T...   Apr 13 2006, 4:53 am
Grandpa Grizz   I haven't been on the boards very long. I...   Apr 13 2006, 5:17 am
Costakoui   Something I have wondered, and I am sure it is tr...   Apr 13 2006, 5:18 am
fandelive   From what I have heard, SS was a disappointment a...   Apr 13 2006, 5:32 am
LiveRoCkS77   you're certainly right. I'm a fan since ...   Apr 13 2006, 8:04 pm
Costakoui   To me, things are very clear. I see every Live alb...   Apr 13 2006, 6:05 am
WhiteLighter   I, myself, have noticed that everytime I listen to...   Apr 13 2006, 10:57 am
DesertWater   To me, things are very clear. I see every Live al...   Apr 14 2006, 12:16 am
Costakoui   I agree. Each album has their own unique style a...   Apr 14 2006, 2:12 am
Grandpa Grizz   I've been a fan from the very beginning, and m...   Apr 13 2006, 8:30 pm
Rush Of Blood   Live need to have dark times to write weird/dark s...   Apr 13 2006, 10:56 pm
maninu   yep - its true: every album is unique. but to me, ...   Apr 14 2006, 3:47 am
LiveRoCkS77   yep - its true: every album is unique. but to me,...   Apr 14 2006, 9:01 am
Costakoui   yep - its true: every album is unique. but to me,...   Apr 14 2006, 11:15 am
seriakiLLa   I've been following Live since MJ. I don...   Apr 14 2006, 5:35 pm
michael39   picked it up today and must say its really good.be...   Apr 14 2006, 8:31 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Ok I downloaded the album last night and wow, it ...   Apr 15 2006, 8:49 am
Pokey   I don't think it's unreasonable to list Sh...   Apr 15 2006, 10:28 am
LiveRoCkS77   I don't think it's unreasonable to list S...   Apr 15 2006, 10:52 am
Pokey   I don't think it's dumb, if I find those s...   Apr 15 2006, 11:13 am
LiveRoCkS77   I don't think it's dumb, if I find those ...   Apr 15 2006, 3:11 pm
serene23   Well, it seems on repeat here but again I agree w...   Apr 15 2006, 3:40 pm
Pokey   But I don't see how any music fan could fing...   Apr 15 2006, 4:39 pm
LiveRoCkS77   But .. I gave examples as well, you told me songs...   Apr 17 2006, 10:10 am
sherocker   I really LOVE the new album, and that's about ...   Apr 15 2006, 11:16 am
maninu   i miss the rock´n roll! where is it gone? love...   Apr 16 2006, 5:11 am
baggieneil   i love it they surprise me everytime what a band t...   Apr 16 2006, 5:35 am
serene23   i love it they surprise me everytime what a band ...   Apr 16 2006, 12:24 pm
flaterik   OK, the end all to the discussion "pop" ...   Apr 20 2006, 4:21 am
seriakiLLa   OK, the end all to the discussion "pop...   Apr 20 2006, 4:25 am
baggieneil   i meant all that pop idol stuff gets on my tits   Apr 16 2006, 2:23 pm
Sam   i like the new album, its not great or anything bu...   Apr 17 2006, 5:46 pm
onecrowdedhour   I saw the album today. I picked it up...I put it d...   Apr 17 2006, 11:42 pm
sherocker   I saw the album today. I picked it up...I put it ...   Apr 19 2006, 1:01 pm
onecrowdedhour   it made me :cry: really!! I know the fe...   Apr 20 2006, 8:36 pm
The biggest live fan   The new album is great. I haven't stopped lis...   Apr 18 2006, 1:10 am
Maggie   The new album is great. I haven't stopped li...   Apr 20 2006, 9:02 am
Costakoui   I got the album today thanks to amazon.de The albu...   Apr 18 2006, 6:47 am
Senghe   Thank goodness I got the Dual Disc version as it h...   Apr 18 2006, 7:29 am
baggieneil   copied mine on to my pc fine must be the disc   Apr 18 2006, 2:07 pm
LiveattheOasis   Like cry because it was bad or cry because you wer...   Apr 19 2006, 1:06 pm
sherocker   Like cry because it was bad or cry because you we...   Apr 20 2006, 11:31 am
slainte   OK, the end all to the discussion "pop...   Apr 20 2006, 10:28 am


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