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I just wrote a blog called Impossible Politics [link removed], which discusses my uncertainty about politics in general. I thought some of you here might relate to my ponderings. If you're interested then feel free to read, and I'd greatly appreciate any comments (on the blog page itself, preferably). lol.gif

In all honesty, I want Obama to rule England. Dude's cool as fuck. Obama, or Bruce Willis.

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post Apr 8 2010, 11:02 am
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I'm sorry, but you really are an idiot gotigrz
and by idiot, i mean a senseless person - people like you scare the living crap out of me..

what would YOU do if you were in this man's shoes?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/07/u...html?view=print

is it ok that HE receives govt assistance? perhaps its "OK" because his name isnt shamika

Stories like this are EXACTLY why i support the recent health care reform.

I havent heard one solid informed argument from you- but plenty of Fox News talking points.. i guess because Sean Hannity says Obama is a socialist, it must then be true?



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post Apr 8 2010, 12:42 pm
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If you think that illegal immigrants don't want legal status, it just shows how little knowledge you have. Most illegal immigrants would do anything for legal status. If they had legal status they could go after the better-paying jobs, be covered by labour laws, take their employers to the law for non-payment of wages, etc. Oh yeah: and not risk their lives trying to get into a country that despises them.


first of all, if they want citizenship... they can get it. what's stopping them? they get paid under the table and end up sending most of the money to mexico to support their family. hey, if they don't like the situation... then why do they stay? why not go back to mexico?

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A lot of welfare recipients are just people down on their luck who haven't got the education or the street smarts or the luck to get a decent job. And a lot of them are physically disabled - and being treated like drug-addicted scofflaws is just what their shitty little lives need


down on their luck? uh, people that are "down on their luck" receive unemployment pay for like six months or so... if you can't find a job in six months.. you're not trying. mcdonalds and wendys and burger king or any other job like that will provide insurance for their employees... you may get paid in peanuts, but it's a job and you'll have benefits. and, for the physically disabled.... i've already said that i don't mind the gov't helping these people... they NEED it. the bottom line is, is that there are people out there that are not physically disabled and can work... but, they'd rather just put in applications for jobs they know they wont get and have no intentions on getting just so they can keep their unemployment check rolling in. and, like i said, i know it ain't much, but obviously it's enough cause people do it all the time.

quit trying to make me look like the idiot when apparently i'm the only one walking around with their eyes open.

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I'm sorry, but you really are an idiot gotigrz
and by idiot, i mean a senseless person - people like you scare the living crap out of me..

what would YOU do if you were in this man's shoes?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/07/u...html?view=print

is it ok that HE receives govt assistance? perhaps its "OK" because his name isnt shamika

Stories like this are EXACTLY why i support the recent health care reform.

I havent heard one solid informed argument from you- but plenty of Fox News talking points.. i guess because Sean Hannity says Obama is a socialist, it must then be true?


that guy in that link is fine to get help. he needs it. he is doing what he can to support his family. i have a niece that is a juvenile diabetic... i know how expensive their medical bills are. that man, can have whatever he needs as far as i'm concerned.

but, i'm not talking about people like him. i am strictly and solely talking about the ones that abuse the system... that is all. how can anyone argue with that?


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post Apr 8 2010, 9:02 pm
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QUOTE(gotigrz @ Apr 8 2010, 1:42 pm) *

first of all, if they want citizenship... they can get it.

Is it possible to know LESS about immigration and citizenship law?? Fuck, man. There's this thing the kids are using now - it's called google. Use it search for "US Immigration and Nationality Act" or Immigration to the United States
If you bothered to read anything, you'd realize that you don't have to be an American citizen to have taxes deducted from your pay - just an employment visa of some kind. If you want to live and work permanently in the U.S. you need a Green Card - ridiculously hard to get sometimes - for several years before you can get citizenship. But Green Cards and employment visas are generally given to the educated by preference.

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they get paid under the table and end up sending most of the money to mexico to support their family.

And this is wrong HOW???

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hey, if they don't like the situation... then why do they stay? why not go back to mexico?

Because their families need the money!! They came here for the same reason YOUR ANCESTORS probalby hauled their sorry asses to North America: because things weren't so good at home. You know, unless you are a native American, your family are immigrants too. And by "you" I mean everyone whose family are not native Americans (what you would incorrectly call Indians).

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quit trying to make me look like the idiot


I don't have to try man. You're doing just fine on your own.

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they get paid under the table and end up sending most of the money to mexico to support their family.

And this is wrong HOW???


this is wrong because not one dime of the money sent to mexico has been taxed. if they want to work here, get paid, pay taxes, and then send their families some money... fine. but, that ain't what's going on. and, these illegal immigrants, that are not paying taxes, sure don't mind using the roads that are paid for by tax dollars or getting healthcare that legal citizens pay for. here is a direct quote from an illegal immigrant mexican women:

"My daughter is six. She was born here. The state pays for her to go to hospital," she said. "If I get sick I do what all the Mexicans do: I go and sit in the emergency room where they cannot turn you away."

so, i ask you... what is NOT wrong with that?

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Because their families need the money!! They came here for the same reason YOUR ANCESTORS probalby hauled their sorry asses to North America: because things weren't so good at home. You know, unless you are a native American, your family are immigrants too. And by "you" I mean everyone whose family are not native Americans (what you would incorrectly call Indians)


uh, there's a big difference in immigrants and ILLEGAL immigrants.

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QUOTE(gotigrz @ Apr 9 2010, 8:09 am) *

"My daughter is six. She was born here. The state pays for her to go to hospital," she said. "If I get sick I do what all the Mexicans do: I go and sit in the emergency room where they cannot turn you away."

so, i ask you... what is NOT wrong with that?


Situations like that are exactly why they passed the healthcare reform bill that you are so opposed to.

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Merica   Impossible Politics   Apr 6 2010, 9:20 am
gotigrz   you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is our...   Apr 6 2010, 9:45 am
Pokey   you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is ou...   Apr 6 2010, 10:18 am
Merica   you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is ou...   Apr 6 2010, 10:27 am
gotigrz   Those that don't work, under Obama's new ...   Apr 6 2010, 3:42 pm
Merica   will they be living the high life? no. but, they...   Apr 6 2010, 4:00 pm
FishOutaWater   will they be living the high life? no. but, the...   Apr 6 2010, 4:18 pm
VoodooLady   ... i just don't like it when people take adv...   Apr 6 2010, 6:53 pm
jayda   trust me, the united states of america didn't...   Apr 14 2010, 8:18 am
gotigrz   see, this is where i disagree... it's not th...   Apr 6 2010, 3:50 pm
VoodooLady   this will, in turn, give others the incentive ...   Apr 6 2010, 4:29 pm
FishOutaWater   It's so easy to sit in judgment, armed with a ...   Apr 6 2010, 4:54 pm
Sakhmet2   you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is ou...   Apr 7 2010, 1:03 pm
gotigrz   if you think that's what i think, then you h...   Apr 7 2010, 1:17 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   "If you think that all people with money ear...   Apr 7 2010, 1:30 pm
gotigrz   You admit you don't know much about anything ...   Apr 7 2010, 2:15 pm
FishOutaWater   Here is a summary of the Healthcare Reform law bas...   Apr 7 2010, 2:57 pm
gotigrz   fish, all of that sounds fair... but, what about w...   Apr 7 2010, 3:18 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   fish, all of that sounds fair... but, what about ...   Apr 7 2010, 3:20 pm
iateyourcookie   fish, all of that sounds fair... but, what about ...   Apr 8 2010, 3:06 am
gotigrz   first, i am not an idiot. you don' t know m...   Apr 8 2010, 7:31 am
thefunkyredcaboose   first, i am not an idiot. you don' t know me...   Apr 8 2010, 8:39 am
gotigrz   you all are putting words in my mouth. right... ...   Apr 8 2010, 9:00 am
thefunkyredcaboose   no, this a human defending himself when he is un...   Apr 8 2010, 9:32 am
Sonic Tonic   first, i am not an idiot. you don' t know me...   Apr 8 2010, 8:51 am
Sakhmet2   this coming from a canadian. well, there is no d...   Apr 7 2010, 3:17 pm
Merica   I very much agree with FishOutaWater's previou...   Apr 6 2010, 6:28 pm
OutToDry   Great stuff fish. Really. :thumbsup:   Apr 6 2010, 8:49 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Glad to see gotigrz perpetuating southern American...   Apr 7 2010, 12:23 am
Wambangalang   gotigrz probably formed his opinion while waving h...   Apr 7 2010, 3:45 am
Pokey   gotigrz probably formed his opinion while waving ...   Apr 7 2010, 3:50 am
gotigrz   that's the confederacy flag... not the america...   Apr 7 2010, 8:28 am
thefunkyredcaboose   look, healthcare aside, i work in a business that...   Apr 7 2010, 9:50 am
Pokey   Now, let's talk welfare just for a moment, s...   Apr 7 2010, 10:05 am
gotigrz   ok, explain something to me... cause i will admit,...   Apr 7 2010, 10:25 am
VoodooLady   ok, explain something to me... cause i will admit...   Apr 7 2010, 11:59 am
FishOutaWater   I agree. And people who don't have insuran...   Apr 7 2010, 10:48 am
Pokey   Can't comment on that myself, but I thought th...   Apr 7 2010, 10:39 am
thefunkyredcaboose   ok, explain something to me... cause i will admit...   Apr 7 2010, 11:56 am
Pokey   Just to break off topic for a moment, this is wher...   Apr 7 2010, 12:13 pm
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VoodooLady   Oh fuck.. Fish & Funky Red, you've been fo...   Apr 7 2010, 3:56 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   :D   Apr 7 2010, 4:08 pm
iateyourcookie   Let's not make this a religious argument. Ther...   Apr 8 2010, 8:23 am
FishOutaWater   Two quick things this morning. First, today I rea...   Apr 8 2010, 8:46 am
VoodooLady   Looked up the definition of IDIOT at Dictionary.co...   Apr 8 2010, 8:57 am
Pokey   I don't think he's an idiot ... just sever...   Apr 8 2010, 9:14 am
gotigrz   I don't think he's an idiot ... just seve...   Apr 8 2010, 9:32 am
Sakhmet2   first, i would do whatever it takes to round up a...   Apr 8 2010, 10:58 am
VoodooLady   first of all, if they want citizenship... they ca...   Apr 8 2010, 5:34 pm
gotigrz   we'll see.   Apr 9 2010, 9:51 am
thefunkyredcaboose   we'll see. "We'll see"?? Tha...   Apr 9 2010, 10:06 am
Pokey   "We'll see"?? That's your resp...   Apr 9 2010, 10:29 am
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