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I just wrote a blog called Impossible Politics [link removed], which discusses my uncertainty about politics in general. I thought some of you here might relate to my ponderings. If you're interested then feel free to read, and I'd greatly appreciate any comments (on the blog page itself, preferably). lol.gif

In all honesty, I want Obama to rule England. Dude's cool as fuck. Obama, or Bruce Willis.

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post Apr 6 2010, 9:45 am
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you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is ours. obama is turning this country into communism/socialism so fast it's not even funny. this country was built on capitalism and that's what has made our country so great. you have a dream, you work for it, you get it. now, with obama at the helm, you have a dream, you work for it, everyone else reaps the benefits.

some might see that as keeping the rich from getting richer and letting the poor enjoy what they wouldn't be able to... that sounds good. but, another way to look at is.... it's taking out incentive. no incentive to work hard cause you're gonna have to pay for that lazy slob's health care and cell phone.... and, no incentive for the lazy slob to get off their butt and get a job cause the gov't is gonna take from the hard working wealthy and give to them.


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QUOTE(gotigrz @ Apr 6 2010, 3:45 pm) *

you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is ours. obama is turning this country into communism/socialism so fast it's not even funny. this country was built on capitalism and that's what has made our country so great. you have a dream, you work for it, you get it. now, with obama at the helm, you have a dream, you work for it, everyone else reaps the benefits.

some might see that as keeping the rich from getting richer and letting the poor enjoy what they wouldn't be able to... that sounds good. but, another way to look at is.... it's taking out incentive. no incentive to work hard cause you're gonna have to pay for that lazy slob's health care and cell phone.... and, no incentive for the lazy slob to get off their butt and get a job cause the gov't is gonna take from the hard working wealthy and give to them.


Those that don't work, under Obama's new plans, won't exactly be living the highest of lives will they? Those who work will be better off and enjoy their splender, but a bit more will be given to those who aren't so high. They'll still be way lower, but now they'll be able to get healthcare. Which I believe everyone should be entitled to. Healthcare should not be something you have to have money to get.


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QUOTE(Merica @ Apr 6 2010, 11:27 am) *

Those that don't work, under Obama's new plans, won't exactly be living the highest of lives will they? Those who work will be better off and enjoy their splender, but a bit more will be given to those who aren't so high. They'll still be way lower, but now they'll be able to get healthcare. Which I believe everyone should be entitled to. Healthcare should not be something you have to have money to get.


will they be living the high life? no. but, they wont need to cause the life they will be living will be better than anything they've ever had before. it's not that i won't to keep them down... i just don't like it when people take advantage of the gov't (tax money paid by working americans)... so, that they don't have to lift a finger... except to pick up their monthly check.

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In Australia it seems we're trying to move away from that and towards how America has been for so long and it totally sucks


it only sucks for those that want healthcare but don't want to work for it. if you're unable to work, that's one thing, but if you're able and you have figured out ... "hey, if i don't make too much money, or any at all... i'll be given what others have to work for... cause they're the ones paying for it... ha ha ha..."

trust me, the united states of america didn't become the greatest country in the world for so long by running the country the way we are heading. the people of australia can only hope that they go to the old way of the usa... the working people, anyway.


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QUOTE(gotigrz @ Apr 6 2010, 9:42 pm) *
will they be living the high life? no. but, they wont need to cause the life they will be living will be better than anything they've ever had before. it's not that i won't to keep them down... i just don't like it when people take advantage of the gov't (tax money paid by working americans)... so, that they don't have to lift a finger... except to pick up their monthly check.


Yeah, they'll be a bit better off, but those who work will still be so much higher. Maybe getting that bit extra will spurr those lower on the totum pole to higher things? I don't know, but I still think even the laziest of leaches deserves healthcare.

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see, this is where i disagree... it's not that I don't care about their health.... but, it's them... they're the ones that obviously don't care about their health. if they don't care enough about their health to go out their and GET A FREAKING JOB!!!! then why should i have to get up everyday and go to work and pay taxes so someone else that has the system figured out that as long as they stay unemployed... they'll be taken care of.


Yeah, it sucks, but maybe it's the lesser of the evils. Everyone pays into a pot so everyone can have healthcare. Some undeserving lazy people will get taken care of, yes, but I'll bet there's also a few underprivaleged families who REALLY need and appreciate it. You're a working, secure man. You're fine. You just gotta suck it up and give a little.

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this will, in turn, give others the incentive to do the same. what if you only made so much money that you can barely take care of yourself, but you made too much to get benefits from the gov't.... while shamika and her eight kids are living off then gov't with a life, that may not be great, but it's better than you. now, how you like it? cause that's what it is.


I don't know if there are really people out there who will drop their working life JUST because they can get benefits and stuff. Certainly not a lot of them. It sucks, but there's no way of avoiding having people who just miss out on things. It's unavoidable, surely? And I don't know about the Shamika comment... why's she gotta have a foreign name? Just as many local leeches. I know you probably know that... I just don't like the racey stuffs.


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Merica   Impossible Politics   Apr 6 2010, 9:20 am
Pokey   you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is ou...   Apr 6 2010, 10:18 am
FishOutaWater   will they be living the high life? no. but, the...   Apr 6 2010, 4:18 pm
VoodooLady   ... i just don't like it when people take adv...   Apr 6 2010, 6:53 pm
jayda   trust me, the united states of america didn't...   Apr 14 2010, 8:18 am
gotigrz   see, this is where i disagree... it's not th...   Apr 6 2010, 3:50 pm
VoodooLady   this will, in turn, give others the incentive ...   Apr 6 2010, 4:29 pm
FishOutaWater   It's so easy to sit in judgment, armed with a ...   Apr 6 2010, 4:54 pm
Sakhmet2   you can have him... obama, that is... bruce is ou...   Apr 7 2010, 1:03 pm
gotigrz   if you think that's what i think, then you h...   Apr 7 2010, 1:17 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   "If you think that all people with money ear...   Apr 7 2010, 1:30 pm
gotigrz   You admit you don't know much about anything ...   Apr 7 2010, 2:15 pm
FishOutaWater   Here is a summary of the Healthcare Reform law bas...   Apr 7 2010, 2:57 pm
gotigrz   fish, all of that sounds fair... but, what about w...   Apr 7 2010, 3:18 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   fish, all of that sounds fair... but, what about ...   Apr 7 2010, 3:20 pm
iateyourcookie   fish, all of that sounds fair... but, what about ...   Apr 8 2010, 3:06 am
gotigrz   first, i am not an idiot. you don' t know m...   Apr 8 2010, 7:31 am
thefunkyredcaboose   first, i am not an idiot. you don' t know me...   Apr 8 2010, 8:39 am
gotigrz   you all are putting words in my mouth. right... ...   Apr 8 2010, 9:00 am
thefunkyredcaboose   no, this a human defending himself when he is un...   Apr 8 2010, 9:32 am
Sonic Tonic   first, i am not an idiot. you don' t know me...   Apr 8 2010, 8:51 am
Sakhmet2   this coming from a canadian. well, there is no d...   Apr 7 2010, 3:17 pm
Merica   I very much agree with FishOutaWater's previou...   Apr 6 2010, 6:28 pm
OutToDry   Great stuff fish. Really. :thumbsup:   Apr 6 2010, 8:49 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Glad to see gotigrz perpetuating southern American...   Apr 7 2010, 12:23 am
Wambangalang   gotigrz probably formed his opinion while waving h...   Apr 7 2010, 3:45 am
Pokey   gotigrz probably formed his opinion while waving ...   Apr 7 2010, 3:50 am
gotigrz   that's the confederacy flag... not the america...   Apr 7 2010, 8:28 am
thefunkyredcaboose   look, healthcare aside, i work in a business that...   Apr 7 2010, 9:50 am
Pokey   Now, let's talk welfare just for a moment, s...   Apr 7 2010, 10:05 am
gotigrz   ok, explain something to me... cause i will admit,...   Apr 7 2010, 10:25 am
VoodooLady   ok, explain something to me... cause i will admit...   Apr 7 2010, 11:59 am
FishOutaWater   I agree. And people who don't have insuran...   Apr 7 2010, 10:48 am
Pokey   Can't comment on that myself, but I thought th...   Apr 7 2010, 10:39 am
thefunkyredcaboose   ok, explain something to me... cause i will admit...   Apr 7 2010, 11:56 am
Pokey   Just to break off topic for a moment, this is wher...   Apr 7 2010, 12:13 pm
VoodooLady   Just to break off topic for a moment, this is whe...   Apr 7 2010, 12:48 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Just to break off topic for a moment, this is whe...   Apr 7 2010, 12:39 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   from what i understand, capitalism is where you c...   Apr 7 2010, 3:20 pm
VoodooLady   Oh fuck.. Fish & Funky Red, you've been fo...   Apr 7 2010, 3:56 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   :D   Apr 7 2010, 4:08 pm
iateyourcookie   Let's not make this a religious argument. Ther...   Apr 8 2010, 8:23 am
FishOutaWater   Two quick things this morning. First, today I rea...   Apr 8 2010, 8:46 am
VoodooLady   Looked up the definition of IDIOT at Dictionary.co...   Apr 8 2010, 8:57 am
Pokey   I don't think he's an idiot ... just sever...   Apr 8 2010, 9:14 am
gotigrz   I don't think he's an idiot ... just seve...   Apr 8 2010, 9:32 am
Sakhmet2   first, i would do whatever it takes to round up a...   Apr 8 2010, 10:58 am
VoodooLady   I'm sorry, but you really are an idiot gotigrz...   Apr 8 2010, 11:02 am
gotigrz   first of all, if they want citizenship... they c...   Apr 8 2010, 12:42 pm
VoodooLady   first of all, if they want citizenship... they ca...   Apr 8 2010, 5:34 pm
Sakhmet2   first of all, if they want citizenship... they ca...   Apr 8 2010, 9:02 pm
gotigrz   this is wrong because not one dime of the money ...   Apr 9 2010, 7:09 am
thefunkyredcaboose   "My daughter is six. She was born here. The ...   Apr 9 2010, 9:23 am
gotigrz   we'll see.   Apr 9 2010, 9:51 am
thefunkyredcaboose   we'll see. "We'll see"?? Tha...   Apr 9 2010, 10:06 am
Pokey   "We'll see"?? That's your resp...   Apr 9 2010, 10:29 am
gotigrz   my "we'll see" response was a way of...   Apr 9 2010, 10:58 am
VoodooLady   my "we'll see" response was a way o...   Apr 9 2010, 11:34 am
gotigrz   this thread has become just a bunch of personal sh...   Apr 9 2010, 12:13 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   this thread has become just a bunch of personal s...   Apr 9 2010, 1:03 pm
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thefunkyredcaboose   *eats popcorn*   Apr 8 2010, 11:02 pm
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FishOutaWater   I would like to personally thank gotigrz, because ...   Apr 9 2010, 9:42 pm
Wambangalang   hey gotigrz i didnt know you drink at this pub lin...   Apr 9 2010, 9:59 pm
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