gotigrz's Christianity topic, part 2 Options

[gotigrz]

Someone i think badman or merica actually asked ed in person and he admitted being a christian. im pretty sure his is a little more of an open faith (i remember a recent interview where he stated that praying doesnt do much good in the world) I know he thinks the bible is the best source of morality and guide for mankind but im not clear if he believes in the divinity of jesus or that he was born of a virgin etc...

well, if ed said that he was a Christian, then he does believe in the virgin birth, the dying on the cross, and the resurrection 3 days later. that is the criteria of being a Christian. nobody says, .. "yeah, i'm a Christian, but that whole virgin birth thing is just crazy."

when ed said that about prayer not doing much good (i heard the interview)... he was referring to prayer that he thinks isn't really "prayer". he was saying that when you are truly in prayer with God that you are like one with Him, and that most people just close their eyes and ask for something. and, that THAT isn't doing much good cause that's what most people do and look at the world around us. PRAYER... aka... truly talking to God is VERY powerful.

[Pokey]

first of all, if Heaven and Hell are real.... i got news for you,... WE ALL deserve to go to Hell.

I would love to be able to come back from the dead to prove you wrong "yo dude, by the way, we kinda just rot in the ground and thats it.." ... but then that'd be a bit of a catch 22 as to how I was able to come back and argh *exploding head*.

This is something I still don't understand ... ok so lets say there Jesus was real, at least there was a person by that name doing deeds that could eventually be written into stories and such .. regardless of how accurate it is, it's all gotta come from somewhere. There is so called evidence like his tomb and burrial robes and all that kinda mumbojumbo ... I can see how someone who wants to cling to faith could convince themselves thats all real.

But there is absolutely NOTHING to prove in any way shape or form that there is an after life in either heaven or hell. Everything that happend on Earth can be debateable (even though I think the Christian history of life is wrong) ... still at least debateable. How anyone can just say that Heaven and Hell are real is beyond me.

I would love to know what would happen if we found life on other planets. As far as I know there is nothing anywhere in the bible or Christian teachings which mention life forms outside of Earth. So if there were to be some, how would Christians react to this? Would you say God created them also even though nothing you've believed in for years pointed to any of that? Would you admit to maybe there being more than one God for different galaxies? What if these beings had proof of their own creation and history whether is be scientific or religious in their own rights ... would you still tell them they're wrong and God created them and they are subject to heaven and hell too?

It sort of brings up a point earlier in this thread, if someone has no exposure to the teachings of God, then how can they be fairly judged at the end? Again the aboriginals of Australia worshiped a giant rainbow snake that carved out the land for them ... surely something that breaks one of the commandments .. but they were here for thousands and thousands of years before the word of God was brought to them ... how were they to know? If God gave them free will to believe these things, why would he also not go "Hey you're free to believe whatever you want, but eh .. there aint no giant rainbow snake". So in your eyes they are condemed to hell simply through no fault of their own. God truely must be our father who loves all his children ... except them.