gotigrz's Christianity topic, part 2 Options

[gotigrz]

Someone i think badman or merica actually asked ed in person and he admitted being a christian. im pretty sure his is a little more of an open faith (i remember a recent interview where he stated that praying doesnt do much good in the world) I know he thinks the bible is the best source of morality and guide for mankind but im not clear if he believes in the divinity of jesus or that he was born of a virgin etc...

well, if ed said that he was a Christian, then he does believe in the virgin birth, the dying on the cross, and the resurrection 3 days later. that is the criteria of being a Christian. nobody says, .. "yeah, i'm a Christian, but that whole virgin birth thing is just crazy."

when ed said that about prayer not doing much good (i heard the interview)... he was referring to prayer that he thinks isn't really "prayer". he was saying that when you are truly in prayer with God that you are like one with Him, and that most people just close their eyes and ask for something. and, that THAT isn't doing much good cause that's what most people do and look at the world around us. PRAYER... aka... truly talking to God is VERY powerful.

[Pokey]

I just find it so funny that the reason you think I don't follow God anymore is because God allows me not to follow him. If God isn't going out of his way to make me see the light, then I don't understand why some Christians are. If free will is given by God and that in his eyes I can believe whatever I want then why do some Christians go out and try to save people and bring them around to seeing God when God himself doesn't do this? You can't say that God does in certain ways because then it isn't true free will.

Of course it's not the path the child will always choose, myself is the example. But like I say, children are extremely impressionable, and its just something I don't think should be taught in schools. Or if you're going to teach it in schools, teach multiple religions .. give people an insight into lots of different views. What he was teaching was in a way judgement, but it was also hate ... he believed that because these people were gay that they DESERVED to go to hell. Thinking someone deserves to go to hell because of their sexuality to me is hate. If I say to someone in every day life "you deserve to go to hell", that is generally considered a hateful thing to say. Regardless of how I turned out, I think a universal teaching of understanding each other and tolerance and accepting will be much more beneficial to a child as opposed as to when to stand and kneel in church. You can argue that learning about God is learning to be understanding and accepting and all that, but it's not really, you yourself said that you don't agree with Gays for example.