gotigrz's Christianity topic, part 2 Options

[Wambangalang]

oh dont be afraid, it was in response to PurdueSteve. Someone i think badman or merica actually asked ed in person and he admitted being a christian. im pretty sure his is a little more of an open faith (i remember a recent interview where he stated that praying doesnt do much good in the world) I know he thinks the bible is the best source of morality and guide for mankind but im not clear if he believes in the divinity of jesus or that he was born of a virgin etc...

my christianity is more in line with christopher hitchens.

[gotigrz]

Someone i think badman or merica actually asked ed in person and he admitted being a christian. im pretty sure his is a little more of an open faith (i remember a recent interview where he stated that praying doesnt do much good in the world) I know he thinks the bible is the best source of morality and guide for mankind but im not clear if he believes in the divinity of jesus or that he was born of a virgin etc...

well, if ed said that he was a Christian, then he does believe in the virgin birth, the dying on the cross, and the resurrection 3 days later. that is the criteria of being a Christian. nobody says, .. "yeah, i'm a Christian, but that whole virgin birth thing is just crazy."

when ed said that about prayer not doing much good (i heard the interview)... he was referring to prayer that he thinks isn't really "prayer". he was saying that when you are truly in prayer with God that you are like one with Him, and that most people just close their eyes and ask for something. and, that THAT isn't doing much good cause that's what most people do and look at the world around us. PRAYER... aka... truly talking to God is VERY powerful.

[Wambangalang]

we have instinctive moral law because if we did not we couldnt have gotten very far as a species. We know we do not kill each other if we want to survive. Are you telling me that we learned this only when we got to the foot of mount sainai and were given the commandments? We would never have gotten there if we didnt know that raping and killing was wrong.

And dont get me started on the morals preached in the new and old testament. Lisence to hold slaves, divine instruction to stone adulterers. The list is long and horrific. We abolished slavery, got womens rights, are getting there with tolerating gays, all this without help from the bible.

fuck this now im DONE.