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post Apr 10 2006, 7:51 am
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I've been listening to the new album for the last couple of days and I have to say I'm quite disappointed. Didn't Live used to be a rock band? All of their songs have now become Pop songs. What happened to songs like the Stage, White Discussions, Lakinis Juice, Feel The Quiet River Rage, Where Fishes Go, actual rock songs? Live seems to have lost all of it's edge.

I will always love Live but this album seems to be a big step back to me.

Just my opinion.


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I strongly disagree that the majority of TDTH is "pop." The Dolphin's Cry, They Stood Up For Love and Run to the Water...yes. They were/are radio-friendly. Yet, the album itself possesses such a feeling of maturity and brightness, still with a hint of darkness. It's so fresh and different from anything they've ever done and that's what I've always respected and liked about Live. They used to re-invent themselves on each album. Sun is pure vintage Live. Deeply rooted. Voodoo Lady and Where Fishes Go are so dark and extremely strange and weird, I love them...then comes Face and Ghost, which is a totally different path and light-hearted, and so forth.

It's hard to convey what you feel towards an album, but when I think back to TDTH, I feel and see the cooler weather, fall weather, the holidays, the end of the 20th century and I, myself, maturing. I've said it before and will again, TDTH is their most "complete" album to date and has a little bit of everything.

Even though I did not care for V in the least, I could respect the fact that it was experimental and they wanted to try more electronics and even a "hip-hop"-like style. I thought it'd was a one-and-done project and they were allowed a "pass" towards making a less-than-thrilling album when the 4 before it were great. I looked forward to 2003...

The problem I have with BOP and now SFBM is that there is very little creativity involved, at least that's what I gather. A song can be as simple as Dance With You and be excellent if it has substance. The songs on the last two albums are simple enough, but contain "fluff." I don't care for the "la-de-da"-like lyrics or every single song stating the same, "lets-do-it-for-the-children-and-for-love." If you're going to conduct those redundant themes, do it differently. Stop with the overly-polished tracks. In short, I think the band is just trying too damn hard.

If these last two albums are not "pop," then they should be classified as "soft rock" played on a station loaded with Bryan Adams, Peter Cetera and Amy Grant. U2's last two albums can be considered "pop" and that might be a good label for them, but the songs on How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, with the exception of Vertigo, are not forced. They come together genuinely.

Live is pressing. If you listen to Meltdown and then Home or Feel the Quiet River Rage, then The Sanctity of Dreams, well, you know...


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jimmatz   I'm sorry....but didn't Live used to be a rock band?   Apr 10 2006, 7:51 am
Live4Life   Jeesh.....people like you are posuers to me...thes...   Apr 10 2006, 8:03 am
jimmatz   I am a Live fan just as much as you. But if you t...   Apr 10 2006, 8:09 am
beau99   I am a Live fan just as much as you. But if you ...   Apr 10 2006, 9:50 am
flyersfan62379   Actually, 'pop' is short for popular. Li...   Apr 10 2006, 9:57 am
beau99   Just curious. U2 is my favorite band of all time...   Apr 10 2006, 10:01 am
jimmatz   Tool and Godsmack both suck loads of ass. Tool...   Apr 10 2006, 11:50 am
beau99   Tool is one of the most creative and imaginative ...   Apr 10 2006, 2:29 pm
blue23   I am a Live fan just as much as you. But if you ...   Apr 11 2006, 4:34 am
flyersfan62379   Jeesh.....people like you are posuers to me...the...   Apr 10 2006, 9:38 am
flyersfan62379   OK, so I've listened to the album 5 or 6 times...   Apr 10 2006, 9:36 am
Renata Trocoli   I respect Jeesh´s opinion. It´s more like a relief...   Apr 10 2006, 11:37 am
Bull   Jim - I understand your opinion and even agree wit...   Apr 10 2006, 11:57 am
flyersfan62379   Jim - I understand your opinion and even agree wi...   Apr 10 2006, 12:25 pm
SDM   This album is Live's (read: Ed's) attempt ...   Apr 10 2006, 12:36 pm
LiveattheOasis   You know, outside of maybe 12-15 songs (most being...   Apr 10 2006, 1:05 pm
jaybb   I feel like if they released Selling The Drama or ...   Apr 10 2006, 1:12 pm
swedeguy   I feel like if they released Selling The Drama or...   Apr 10 2006, 1:48 pm
flyersfan62379   I feel like if they released Selling The Drama or...   Apr 10 2006, 1:48 pm
jaybb   Quick to judge in the sense that you've heard ...   Apr 10 2006, 1:51 pm
brandedwendy   Sure...and if they released all their albums in an...   Apr 10 2006, 1:57 pm
i_live_life   Then again, (dont know who said it, so forgive me...   Apr 10 2006, 2:00 pm
Wambangalang   when i heard the dolphin's cry for the first t...   Apr 10 2006, 1:57 pm
PhoenixDecay   I think no one here can really define what "p...   Apr 10 2006, 2:43 pm
Jennyfoo   I think no one here can really define what ...   Apr 10 2006, 7:29 pm
mfitz804   This pop stuff... and yes, it's pop. It...   Apr 10 2006, 8:44 pm
Jennyfoo   I suppose if you consider Nickelback and 3 Doors ...   Apr 10 2006, 9:29 pm
Schlomo   Anybody who doesn't like the album, please do ...   Apr 10 2006, 8:51 pm
valleygirl   Anybody who doesn't like the album, please do...   Apr 10 2006, 9:29 pm
fandelive   No need to hate one of your favorite bands becaus...   Apr 11 2006, 5:21 am
Costakoui   That's a great post. See, i started to not...   Apr 11 2006, 5:45 am
mfitz804   i thin its true that the new CD is not as heavy as...   Apr 10 2006, 5:44 pm
tswart1   Didnt Pat describe it as a pop record?   Apr 10 2006, 6:56 pm
mfitz804   That dude Scholmo made a lot of sense.   Apr 10 2006, 9:31 pm
Jennyfoo   That dude Scholmo made a lot of sense. yeah, he...   Apr 10 2006, 9:38 pm
LiveattheOasis   I find it hard to believe that this is the end of ...   Apr 10 2006, 9:49 pm
valleygirl   I find it hard to believe that this is the end of...   Apr 10 2006, 9:58 pm
mfitz804   The difference from SS to TDTH was perhaps the gre...   Apr 10 2006, 10:05 pm
chiefhosa   The first time I heard Live I was in high school. ...   Apr 10 2006, 10:20 pm
michael39   i think they have just got better and more refined...   Apr 11 2006, 3:04 am
Costakoui   Live is pressing. If you listen to Meltdown and...   Apr 11 2006, 9:20 am
flyersfan62379   But why have you selected these pairs of comparis...   Apr 11 2006, 10:05 am
Jennyfoo   The problem I have with BOP and now SFBM is tha...   Apr 11 2006, 9:15 pm
mfitz804   I am so glad that the people on this board are so ...   Apr 11 2006, 9:36 pm
flyersfan62379   I am so glad that the people on this board are so...   Apr 12 2006, 9:22 am
DesertWater   I didn't read all of the posts, but somebody s...   Apr 11 2006, 9:51 pm
Costakoui   I didn't read all of the posts, but somebody ...   Apr 12 2006, 1:09 am
fandelive   Listen again to songs like TSUFL, The Distance, C...   Apr 12 2006, 4:57 am
DesertWater   Listen again to songs like TSUFL, The Distance, C...   Apr 12 2006, 8:33 pm
seriakiLLa   Having been a follower since the release of MJ, I ...   Apr 12 2006, 4:08 am
bman2112   OK - I know this is only my second post, and I hav...   Apr 12 2006, 5:32 am
fandelive   Earlier in this thread, someone said that this al...   Apr 12 2006, 5:54 am
bman2112   yeah, that was me... not only the lyrics, but als...   Apr 12 2006, 6:30 am
SecretInsomnia   OK - I know this is only my second post, and I ha...   Apr 12 2006, 9:02 am
LiveattheOasis   OK - I know this is only my second post, and I ha...   Apr 12 2006, 6:33 pm
mfitz804   Those of you ripping on the lyrics to these songs...   Apr 12 2006, 6:59 pm
mrmcpheezy   Wow, this thread was tough to read.   Apr 12 2006, 8:19 am
tswart1   When I listen to Show I envision all 5 guys doing ...   Apr 12 2006, 9:11 am
livefan86   Its not LIVE's fault that their albums have no...   Apr 12 2006, 9:37 am
flyersfan62379   Its not LIVE's fault that their albums have n...   Apr 12 2006, 9:42 am
Jennyfoo   Or if could be the band has lost it's luster ...   Apr 12 2006, 7:06 pm
SJN1279   Its all subjective. Some lyrics from Live's ea...   Apr 12 2006, 7:16 pm
LiveattheOasis   You rock, my friend. You rock. Y'all real...   Apr 12 2006, 8:42 pm
SJN1279   Exactly, you back up the lyrics of SS because you...   Apr 12 2006, 8:55 pm
Alex   Some people are so lame with the whole 'rock...   Apr 12 2006, 5:27 pm
Wambangalang   I hate how he sings "in the east", an...   Apr 12 2006, 8:22 pm
Wambangalang   i dont think its the lyrics necessarily its just t...   Apr 12 2006, 9:17 pm
Jennyfoo   Exactly, you back up the lyrics of SS because you...   Apr 12 2006, 9:46 pm
SJN1279   Dude, now he just says the same things over and o...   Apr 12 2006, 10:07 pm
Jennyfoo   What I heard of it - were perfect neat little song...   Apr 12 2006, 10:14 pm
Schlomo   It's fine to be dissapointed with the album, o...   Apr 12 2006, 10:45 pm
tiger   Live fans are lucky. I don't think this music...   Apr 12 2006, 11:07 pm
flaterik   It's fun reading how people tear this apart. I...   Apr 13 2006, 3:51 am
chica   Your post may be long but I think you got some poi...   Apr 13 2006, 4:29 am
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