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post Dec 6 2009, 5:35 pm
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If you have any actual facts about the band, that you would consider sad, list them here.


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post Dec 6 2009, 5:39 pm
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my sad facts.

Ed signed a secret publishing deal behind the other three members backs and screwed them out of a ton of money.... singlehandley breaking up the band and causing disenchantment with fans worldwide!

FACT!


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post Dec 6 2009, 6:02 pm
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QUOTE(Jon P @ Dec 6 2009, 5:39 pm) *

my sad facts.

Ed signed a secret publishing deal behind the other three members backs and screwed them out of a ton of money.... singlehandley breaking up the band and causing disenchantment with fans worldwide!

FACT!


Okay Mr. Insider, answer me this:
Did this "secret publishing deal" cover songs from past albums, or only new unreleased work? Was it all past albums, or only some recent ones? Did it apply only to lyrics, or lyrics and music? Was it that he was planning to continue writing songs alone - as Chad T said he has been doing for the past couple - then claim sole copyright for them, effectively turning his musical partners and mates into a (presumably salaried) backup band?

The reason I ask:
In most countries copyright resides with the originating artist unless they specifically alienate the copyright by selling it or otherwise giving the rights away. If Live as a band was listed as the creator/composer of the songs on all their albums to date, and they did not specifically sign away their portion of copyright to Ed or anyone else, how could he sign such a deal and have it apply to works of which they were the join owners?

I'm just curious.


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post Dec 6 2009, 6:07 pm
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QUOTE(Sakhmet2 @ Dec 6 2009, 6:02 pm) *

Okay Mr. Insider, answer me this:
Did this "secret publishing deal" cover songs from past albums, or only new unreleased work? Was it all past albums, or only some recent ones? Did it apply only to lyrics, or lyrics and music? Was it that he was planning to continue writing songs alone - as Chad T said he has been doing for the past couple - then claim sole copyright for them, effectively turning his musical partners and mates into a (presumably salaried) backup band?

The reason I ask:
In most countries copyright resides with the originating artist unless they specifically alienate the copyright by selling it or otherwise giving the rights away. If Live as a band was listed as the creator/composer of the songs on all their albums to date, and they did not specifically sign away their portion of copyright to Ed or anyone else, how could he sign such a deal and have it apply to works of which they were the join owners?

I'm just curious.


I don't think we'll ever know the specifics of the contract. What we do know is that it effected how much money the band received, and the band did not know about it. I think that's all we need to know about what happened.


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Hoodstock   Live : Sad Facts   Dec 6 2009, 5:35 pm
Hoodstock   My sad facts: 1. Live's last new song: Believ...   Dec 6 2009, 5:36 pm
Sakhmet2   I don't think we'll ever know the specifi...   Dec 6 2009, 6:13 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   No it isn't all we need to know by a long sho...   Dec 6 2009, 6:21 pm
Sakhmet2   The reason that doesn't matter is because the...   Dec 6 2009, 6:54 pm
Merica   They've effectively broken up.   Dec 6 2009, 6:09 pm
Wambangalang   im with you sakhmet2. These are the kinds of detai...   Dec 6 2009, 6:22 pm
Pokey   im with you sakhmet2. These are the kinds of deta...   Dec 6 2009, 6:40 pm
SJN1279   If you were in Ed's position right now, would...   Dec 6 2009, 8:34 pm
Pokey   Maybe Ed's lawyer advised him not go to into ...   Dec 6 2009, 8:57 pm
OutToDry   True, it could be advice from a lawyer, would m...   Dec 7 2009, 12:28 am
thefunkyredcaboose   im with you sakhmet2. These are the kinds of deta...   Dec 6 2009, 6:53 pm
Wambangalang   If you were in Ed's position right now, would...   Dec 6 2009, 7:07 pm
Pokey   hell yeah!! I'd be dancing around my ...   Dec 6 2009, 7:48 pm
Bremang   How quickly people forget how awesome Ed is, and h...   Dec 6 2009, 7:55 pm
Sonic Tonic   How quickly people forget how awesome Ed is, and ...   Dec 6 2009, 8:00 pm
Live4Life   How quickly people forget how awesome Ed is, and ...   Dec 6 2009, 11:51 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   Fucking A! AMEN! As for you Jon p, STF...   Dec 7 2009, 12:16 am
The Thrill   Fucking A! AMEN! As for you Jon p, STF...   Dec 7 2009, 1:40 am
Senghe   Sad fact - the three former members of live that a...   Dec 7 2009, 5:04 am
+Ed+   Oh, what the hell - carry on boys. We've not ...   Dec 7 2009, 5:17 am
Senghe   & McPheez Too true! :thumbsup:   Dec 7 2009, 5:47 am
Pokey   McPheez would be overjoyed that the news ... the g...   Dec 7 2009, 6:12 am
swamiscott   I think it's just sad because I always thought...   Dec 7 2009, 8:12 am
Badman   Sad Fact: Ed admitted not knowing what he was tal...   Dec 7 2009, 11:20 am
Lively Chick   Sad Fact: Ed admitted not knowing what he was ta...   Dec 24 2009, 8:05 pm
Deku   Sad Fact: I was chatting to a friend from the uk ...   Dec 7 2009, 1:20 pm
Badman   Doesn't surprise me at all. When people ask m...   Dec 7 2009, 6:24 pm
Soxwsc   Sad Fact: Reading the first sentence at Live's...   Dec 7 2009, 4:30 pm
Merica   Listening to lots of Live whilst I do uni work ton...   Dec 7 2009, 6:39 pm
OutToDry   Gas Head Goes West, absolutley a hit missed by the...   Dec 7 2009, 10:08 pm
Pokey   Gas Head Goes West, absolutley a hit missed by th...   Dec 8 2009, 12:54 am
Badman   Gas Hed? In 2007? or did you mean this year? I ...   Dec 8 2009, 1:24 am
OutToDry   Gas Hed? In 2007? or did you mean this year? ...   Dec 8 2009, 8:27 am
+Ed+   Gas Head Goes West, absolutley a hit missed by th...   Dec 8 2009, 2:20 am
Hoodstock   Fuck record labels. Each record shall have a hidd...   Dec 18 2009, 10:23 pm
Wambangalang   sad fact: There once was a band called live. htt...   Dec 24 2009, 9:19 pm
OutToDry   Ed fell over the cliff of reality into an alter wo...   Dec 24 2009, 9:24 pm


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