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QUOTE(VoodooLady @ Jul 30 2009, 8:15 pm) *

we never heard early versions of Sun and Forever on youtube either-- who knows.. if we had.. we might be saying the same thing.. and we dont know what THIS song will sound like after work in the studio

i cant believe i'm even posting again about this song.. i dont care for it. or atleast the youtube version EK posted-- and i can tell you what i dont like about it..

BUT what many have spewed here is infact OPINION.. all entirely subjective. i think its totally fine and cool to say you like or dont like the song for whatever reason.. but this pseudo intellectual BS about what MAKES good music is a load of crap. there is no objective TEST for music.. beauty is in the eye (ears) of the beholder..

would it just be easier if we all unzipped and laid it out on the table? maybe we can then move on?


Sorry, I can't agree with that whatsoever. Peoples taste...likes, dislikes, may be subjective.

I know a few musicians who've been playing for a long time. Musicians with an appreciation for all kinds of music. Musicians who can admit that some of the catchy music they have guilty pleasures for is absolute technical fucking garbage.

Again, argue it all you want. A basic fucking requisition for good music is that it takes some talent on some level. Meaning not simpleton bullshit that can be played and arranged on a childs yamaha keyboard. Not lyrics that sound as if they are written by a 9 year old learning to write poetry.

You gonna tell me that a teacher grading literature is being subjective in his grading?? LMFROFLMAO!!!!!!!! Bad fucking writing is just that, there's nothing subjective about it. Intelligent people can recognise good writng while their being subjected to it. Just as those same people can tell when something was written by someone bordering retardation. Nothing subjective about it.

Same goes for music. Simple songs with simple prgressions on guitar and drums can be catchy...people can like them....but in the realm of good music? They have no fucking place. I can name you several pieces of work and several artists who I despise, yet can recognize that their music is technically sound, well structured and takes a lot of talent to create and play. I just don't like it. Still good music that the average musician would have no hope of ever creating.

You people arguing this subjective bullshit seriously make me laugh. Talking about beauty being in the eye of the beholder and all that nonsense? Hilarious, wow.

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pizan0   New song from Ed (and Karsh Kale)   Jul 28 2009, 9:54 pm
J.Sax   You beat me!   Jul 28 2009, 9:58 pm
pizan0   You beat me! haha, total coincidence, dude. ...   Jul 28 2009, 10:04 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I listen to a lot of different kinds of music and ...   Jul 28 2009, 10:08 pm
pizan0   I listen to a lot of different kinds of music and...   Jul 28 2009, 10:12 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   lol, I hear you...this is something I just can...   Jul 28 2009, 10:15 pm
J.Sax   MP3 is uploading to my MediaFire account.   Jul 28 2009, 10:14 pm
J.Sax   MP3 ripped from the video: http://www.mediafire.c...   Jul 28 2009, 10:18 pm
Sonic Tonic   I thought Ed was born again christian, why is he s...   Jul 28 2009, 10:24 pm
SJN1279   Ed's vocals are very cool. The techno is a bi...   Jul 28 2009, 10:39 pm
SinfulEyes   Ed's vocals are very cool. The techno is a b...   Jul 28 2009, 11:31 pm
Sonic Tonic   BUT OF COURSE NICK LIKES IT. There would be no ot...   Jul 29 2009, 12:40 am
J.Sax   I kind of like the vocals, too. There's a litt...   Jul 29 2009, 1:04 am
Costakoui   This song does not sound like V or SFBM – it is cl...   Jul 29 2009, 1:23 am
Wambangalang   lol i like it cool song, i could dig an album full...   Jul 29 2009, 1:59 am
aLIVEinNORWAY   I'm happy this is not the new Live song, for t...   Jul 29 2009, 3:23 am
+Ed+   It really does remind me somehow of Cornell's ...   Jul 29 2009, 3:23 am
Merica   Wow, that's a really... different kind of song...   Jul 29 2009, 3:54 am
Pokey   I ... uh .. well, thats different. I wasn't ex...   Jul 29 2009, 6:03 am
Wambangalang   a lotus is a flower that blossums from a mound of ...   Jul 29 2009, 6:09 am
SecretInsomnia   Ít's not that I don't like it, but it...   Jul 29 2009, 6:20 am
Merica   Yeah, I do actually like the vocals. Listening aga...   Jul 29 2009, 6:24 am
SecretInsomnia   Yeah, I do actually like the vocals. Listening ag...   Jul 29 2009, 6:29 am
Pokey   Yeah, I do actually like the vocals. Listening ag...   Jul 29 2009, 7:16 am
thefunkyredcaboose   My God how our standards have fallen. Voodoo Lady...   Jul 29 2009, 7:28 am
SJN1279   My God how our standards have fallen. Voodoo Lad...   Jul 29 2009, 7:35 am
thefunkyredcaboose   I agree it is no Candlebox.... Thank God!...   Jul 29 2009, 7:53 am
VoodooLady   while i like the eastern influence thru out the so...   Jul 29 2009, 8:46 am
ShowalittleLove   Love the lyrics and how he sings it. I like the ...   Jul 29 2009, 8:50 am
dangum   I've just been checking out the comments that ...   Jul 29 2009, 9:46 am
Pokey   I've just been checking out the comments that...   Jul 29 2009, 9:54 am
crazy1   Ummm.... I liked the lyrics and vocals but not the...   Jul 29 2009, 9:52 am
SJN1279   Ummm.... I liked the lyrics and vocals but not th...   Jul 29 2009, 10:33 am
Hoodstock   Some Karsh Kale fans are probably saying, ...   Jul 29 2009, 10:49 am
phungi   listen to "Pain Lies On the Riverside" a...   Jul 29 2009, 10:22 am
Hoodstock   Streaming thoughts as they come to me as I listen ...   Jul 29 2009, 10:48 am
crazy1   .....and when are we going to hear more about the ...   Jul 29 2009, 10:52 am
FishOutaWater   Eddie announced this song on Twitter referring to ...   Jul 29 2009, 11:20 am
VoodooLady   A few days ago, he Twittered about finding the L...   Jul 29 2009, 11:45 am
Hoodstock   "Rise up Child of Zion" "18 years...   Jul 29 2009, 11:49 am
Hoodstock   "18 years of strippen for the rent, come on ...   Jul 29 2009, 11:52 am
Hoodstock   Just to show how bad the lyrics are (as mentioned ...   Jul 29 2009, 12:11 pm
crazy1   In a previous post I said that I liked the lyrics....   Jul 29 2009, 12:18 pm
Hoodstock   In a previous post I said that I liked the lyrics...   Jul 29 2009, 12:22 pm
VoodooLady   In a previous post I said that I liked the lyrics...   Jul 29 2009, 12:35 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   I think its "the gospel in the churches...   Jul 29 2009, 12:25 pm
Hoodstock   I think its "the gospel in the churches...   Jul 29 2009, 1:02 pm
SJN1279   I actually like the lyrics and the song quite a bi...   Jul 29 2009, 2:52 pm
Pokey   I actually like the lyrics and the song quite a b...   Jul 29 2009, 7:38 pm
SJN1279   Listening to the song again, there is definitely p...   Jul 29 2009, 8:56 pm
Hoodstock   Listening to the song again, there is definitely ...   Jul 30 2009, 12:04 am
LiveRoCkS77   I just don't know what to say. Eddie K could...   Jul 30 2009, 11:32 am
LiveRoCkS77   Listening to the song again, there is definitely ...   Jul 30 2009, 11:26 am
Hoodstock   I actually like the lyrics and the song quite a b...   Jul 30 2009, 12:08 am
SJN1279   So Nick, to understand this, you like songs about...   Jul 30 2009, 7:32 am
Hoodstock   All the negative you picked out from the song occ...   Jul 30 2009, 8:31 am
Liveman94   So you think the song is good because only one ve...   Jul 30 2009, 9:11 am
SJN1279   So you think the song is good because only one ve...   Jul 30 2009, 1:49 pm
LiveRoCkS77   There you go turning your opinion into fact again...   Jul 30 2009, 2:52 pm
tiger   I couldn't make it through the whole song and ...   Jul 29 2009, 12:40 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   "You're not making Christianity better, y...   Jul 29 2009, 12:45 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   Rise up, Rise up......oh my god I have start to si...   Jul 29 2009, 4:40 pm
Distance to Me   It's better than SFBM, at the very least. And ...   Jul 29 2009, 5:28 pm
Sonic Tonic   We need some [i]rock. I'm not sure if flute...   Jul 29 2009, 5:42 pm
Distance to Me   They sure can: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0...   Jul 29 2009, 5:45 pm
Infrequent Poster   I like the music, but my musical tastes are far di...   Jul 29 2009, 7:36 pm
Pokey   They sure can: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0...   Jul 30 2009, 5:25 am
Senghe   Presuming this is a demo rather than a full song, ...   Jul 30 2009, 4:54 am
Wambangalang   since when have eds songs been about nanything? I ...   Jul 30 2009, 7:54 am
SecretInsomnia   I think we will going to hear a lot more before Ed...   Jul 30 2009, 9:47 am
thefunkyredcaboose   So glad everyone is realizing what trash this is. ...   Jul 30 2009, 12:55 pm
SecretInsomnia   So glad everyone is realizing what trash this is....   Jul 30 2009, 1:22 pm
thefunkyredcaboose   please keep in mind this is just something he is ...   Jul 30 2009, 1:30 pm
SJN1279   If he didn't think it were good he wouldn...   Jul 30 2009, 1:47 pm
swami   From a veteran Live fan......I love it. :)   Jul 30 2009, 2:51 pm
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