gotigrz's - 'Jesus is the only way to heaven' thread, split from "Is Ed... a Christian Again?" Options

[gotigrz]

"Nobody should care what religion he is."

if you're a Christian,... you want others to be, too. not for your sake, but for theirs.

"Do you think Ed cares what religion you are?"

if he has truly given his heart and soul to Jesus... then yes, i do.

"yet you turn around and try to push your religion on us"

see, that's the problem... to a non-believer... when anyone that is a Christian even brings up the fact that Jesus is their Lord and Saviour... they think they are trying to "push" their beliefs on someone. i'm not doing that. i'm telling you what i believe and why i believe it. and, for me to want the same for anyone else is my decision. if you think me being happy for ed, that he found Christ, is pushing my beliefs on you... then you're the one with the problem.

"I respect all religions, and believe religion is a great thing. Just not for me, at least not at this point in my life."

see, you don't get it... Christianity isn't "something to get you through the day"... becoming a Christian isn't going to make your life easier... it's actually going to make it harder. but, i know that It will keep my soul for eternity with the Lord.

[Pokey]

i gotta question for any atheist or non believer or whatever....

if you truly don't believe in God, Heaven, or Hell.... then why do you get offended when someone says that if you don't believe in God then you're going to Hell?

i don't believe in aliens... so, if someone told me that unless i start to believe in aliens.. they'll come get my dead body and take me to their dungeon forever... i'd say... "ok, whatever"... and, leave it at that.

I wouldn't say I get offended, like I explained in an earlier post, because of the way I was brought up I guess I have a now natural opposition to Christianity where as most other religions (whilst I still dont believe in them) don't annoy me, Christianity for some reason just does. I wouldn't say it offends me, I know bible bashers can tell me I'm going to hell all they want and I just smile inside knowing there is no such thing.

To your point before of God knowing things before they happen, why would God have given Adam and Eve the temptation of eating from the forbidden tree knowing ahead of time that they would? If God couldn't forsee that then how is he all knowing and all powerful? He should be able to see the thousands of years of war, anger and death that this free will would have caused on his newly created planet ... the free will in Christian eyes is why people strayed from God, either believing in false Gods or no God at all.
People don't have an answer for this, Christians will just generally hide behind blanket statements like "oh it's God's will!".


In the end I guess I just can't comprihend how people can continue to believe so strongly in something given the amount of holes that can be poked into their arguments of belief, sometimes I think it's quite abmirible(sp?) and other times I think it boarders on a mental illness.

But back to your question about offending, yeah to me it's not offence, but when people like you go on about how it's your "duty" to point people towards Christ, it just makes me think "fuck off!" people who don't want to believe don't need saving. The fact other people are "worried for my soul" just sounds bullshit, because when push comes to shove, there is no way these people would give their life for me, a person they do not no, and there is no way in hell I would give me life for them. To me the whole being worried for someones soul comes off as fake bullshit, something that you say to make yourself believe you're being a better Christian.
Ok maybe laying down your life for someone is a bit extreme, but you see what I'm getting at.