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post May 11 2009, 2:40 am
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I did a video recording of the entire song Believe. I have no idea how it turned out and if the video or audio quality is any good.

I'll try to post it tomorrow


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post May 11 2009, 11:16 pm
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I listened to it a few more times. and agree with liverocks. This is not really good. It's just verse chorus rinse and repeat, ahh fuck its better than sfbm but still 3min tune of nothing but verse chorus.

I didn't wanna say this but CHAD TAYLOR!!! WTF you have been playing guitar for over 20 years and this is what you call a solo????? I do not want to sound like an asshole, but he should be embarrased. Fuck I can understand that maybe technically your not good (which after 20+ years is not excusable) but to throw such a shitty solo in is just sad. And Gracey's drumming begs to move me ( as a drummer)

and to those cookie cutter fans to come and say : why are u here ur not even a fan rozx!!!!!" I am a fan, a long time fan , and some of us just miss something , it's hard to explain but we all know inside what it is. And if you do not know, then you just DON'T. and you never will.

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QUOTE(Sonic Tonic @ May 12 2009, 12:16 am) *


and to those cookie cutter fans to come and say : why are u here ur not even a fan rozx!!!!!" I am a fan, a long time fan , and some of us just miss something , it's hard to explain but we all know inside what it is. And if you do not know, then you just DON'T. and you never will.


Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I always like to hear different opinions. I kinda like the new song myself but maybe Live needs to tweak this song a little more smile.gif

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QUOTE(crazy1 @ May 12 2009, 9:06 am) *

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I always like to hear different opinions. I kinda like the new song myself but maybe Live needs to tweak this song a little more smile.gif


Lengthen it, spread it out.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

I just don't get it. As musicians, don't they sit down and ask themselves how far they can take it? Have they really relegated themselves to making 3 minute, generic, lame ass tunes? I just don't understand it.

They've gone in many different directions. So when does one say, "ok guys, lets make an album that speaks, without having to speak."

You ever listened to a song where the guitar is singing to you? Where you can actually feel the music? For example, the solos in Comfortably Numb? A song that is the perfect example is Purple Rain by Prince. The extended 8 minute version has a guitar solo at the end that sings to you. It reeks of emotion and style. It's not the most technically advanced solo I've ever heard, but it's absolutely fucking gorgeous. No words needed to feel the emotion and intent.

Nowadays, everything is crunched together and packaged to sell. It's cheap and uninspired. If it were me, I'd wanna be remembered for having talent and for being creative. For having done all I could to put out the very best of my abilities.

I'm sorry, but this crap is none of that. I fail to accept that this is all this band has. If it is, I just have to accept that this is it. How sad for a band that once achieved what it did has fallen to this. V, BOP, SFBM and now this? Wow, how unbelieveably sad.


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post May 12 2009, 1:42 pm
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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ May 12 2009, 10:56 am) *

Lengthen it, spread it out.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

I just don't get it. As musicians, don't they sit down and ask themselves how far they can take it? Have they really relegated themselves to making 3 minute, generic, lame ass tunes? I just don't understand it.

They've gone in many different directions. So when does one say, "ok guys, lets make an album that speaks, without having to speak."

You ever listened to a song where the guitar is singing to you? Where you can actually feel the music? For example, the solos in Comfortably Numb? A song that is the perfect example is Purple Rain by Prince. The extended 8 minute version has a guitar solo at the end that sings to you. It reeks of emotion and style. It's not the most technically advanced solo I've ever heard, but it's absolutely fucking gorgeous. No words needed to feel the emotion and intent.

Nowadays, everything is crunched together and packaged to sell. It's cheap and uninspired. If it were me, I'd wanna be remembered for having talent and for being creative. For having done all I could to put out the very best of my abilities.

I'm sorry, but this crap is none of that. I fail to accept that this is all this band has. If it is, I just have to accept that this is it. How sad for a band that once achieved what it did has fallen to this. V, BOP, SFBM and now this? Wow, how unbelieveably sad.

Prince and Pink Floyd, are you kidding? 2 of the all time greatest bands/musicians in their prime, you're dissapointed that Live can't reach that level nowadays? Plus they're nothing alike. Live has maybe 10 songs that go over 5 minutes in their entire career. Sorry, not surprising whne there's no 8 minute guitar solo.

I agree, it doesn't have the Live magic. Maybe I'm on the other end of the spectrum, because I compare this to SFBM and you're comparing it to TC. I'm just glad it doesn't suck.

And I'm not saying we should accept whatever BS they throw at us and be happy with it, but to think they're going to somehow recreate the magic from TC, SS, TDTH is unrealistic in my opinion. So many things have changed in their lives, in our lives, with how music is made and distributed, it'd be near impossible to have the same feeling you had listening to TC as you do anything new.

Again, not saying if you don't like it you're not a fan or need to stick around. But Live is nowhere near their prime, their recent track record has been sketchy. If they make an album with songs like this that's far better than SFBM, I'm not gonna be ecstatic but I'll enjoy it as much as I can.


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QUOTE(Schlomo @ May 12 2009, 2:42 pm) *

Prince and Pink Floyd, are you kidding? 2 of the all time greatest bands/musicians in their prime, you're dissapointed that Live can't reach that level nowadays? Plus they're nothing alike. Live has maybe 10 songs that go over 5 minutes in their entire career. Sorry, not surprising whne there's no 8 minute guitar solo.

I agree, it doesn't have the Live magic. Maybe I'm on the other end of the spectrum, because I compare this to SFBM and you're comparing it to TC. I'm just glad it doesn't suck.

And I'm not saying we should accept whatever BS they throw at us and be happy with it, but to think they're going to somehow recreate the magic from TC, SS, TDTH is unrealistic in my opinion. So many things have changed in their lives, in our lives, with how music is made and distributed, it'd be near impossible to have the same feeling you had listening to TC as you do anything new.

Again, not saying if you don't like it you're not a fan or need to stick around. But Live is nowhere near their prime, their recent track record has been sketchy. If they make an album with songs like this that's far better than SFBM, I'm not gonna be ecstatic but I'll enjoy it as much as I can.



Yeah, you got a point there. But I'm not expecting them to reach the level of those two artists I mentioned, only to try.

Also, nowhere, no how, did I say I was comparing it to TC. As a matter of fact, I'm not comparing it to anything and never did. Except to say that the song itself takes care of that by itself. It's generic, like everything else out there nowadays.

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SinfulEyes   Believe   May 11 2009, 2:40 am
Existentialist   POST IT NOW   May 11 2009, 2:45 am
Lebanon Corvalis   Just Got Back from the show The new +LIVE+ song ...   May 11 2009, 3:38 am
Existentialist   Nice. Get a recording?   May 11 2009, 3:40 am
Liveman94   somebody please post something!!! the...   May 11 2009, 4:53 am
Wambangalang   First impressions? Lyrics? Will the new live album...   May 11 2009, 6:52 am
SecretInsomnia   First impressions? Lyrics? Will the new live albu...   May 11 2009, 7:01 am
Wambangalang   but i dont want to wait   May 11 2009, 7:13 am
Schlomo   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xsiKBJGW4   May 11 2009, 9:30 am
Badman   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xsiKBJGW4 ... Y...   May 11 2009, 11:37 am
SJN1279   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xsiKBJGW4 Lol,...   May 11 2009, 11:42 am
Existentialist   The vid from Mets will be up no sooner than 9pm ES...   May 11 2009, 11:49 am
Badman   The vid from Mets will be up no sooner than 9pm E...   May 11 2009, 11:51 am
edstipe   I was at the show last night. "Believe...   May 11 2009, 1:39 pm
Schlomo   like something that could have been on Throwing C...   May 11 2009, 2:58 pm
Ramy   Amazing show last night! I would've reco...   May 11 2009, 7:58 pm
dangum   Believe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqT0stibWs...   May 11 2009, 7:59 pm
Liveman94   Believe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqT0stibW...   May 11 2009, 9:23 pm
ShadowStormEK   Believe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqT0stibW...   May 11 2009, 10:18 pm
Ramy   Thanks me now! :D That's my video! ...   May 11 2009, 8:04 pm
shave98765   Thanks me now! :D That's my video...   May 11 2009, 8:21 pm
SJN1279   Awesome!! Thanks for the video!! ...   May 11 2009, 8:23 pm
dangum   How did u find that Dan? I only just put that up l...   May 11 2009, 9:06 pm
SecretInsomnia   Thanks me now! :D That's my video...   May 12 2009, 6:02 am
Pokey   damn you guys, im at work and cant listen to it fo...   May 11 2009, 8:10 pm
pizan0   Holy shit, this song actually fuckin' rocks pr...   May 11 2009, 8:16 pm
Pokey   whats the quality of the video like? this is killi...   May 11 2009, 8:17 pm
pizan0   whats the quality of the video like? this is kill...   May 11 2009, 8:23 pm
Sonic Tonic   Not bad, a little too short for my liking.   May 11 2009, 8:19 pm
jonesy   Thanks Dan. I like this sound. Don't think it...   May 11 2009, 8:21 pm
Ramy   It's was recorded with a Nokia n81. The audio ...   May 11 2009, 8:24 pm
crazy1   hmmm....I'm impressed! I think I could rea...   May 11 2009, 8:31 pm
lovedivine   :yahoo: thanks!! Having a crap day at work...   May 11 2009, 8:44 pm
Badman   hmm... The bass sounds a little grungy which is a ...   May 11 2009, 8:44 pm
ridley   Cheers Ramy! And thanks Dan, all over it at li...   May 11 2009, 9:04 pm
Schlomo   Wow. Maybe not wow what an amazing song, but wow i...   May 11 2009, 8:53 pm
Lebanon Corvalis   I don't think it sounded anything like Purifie...   May 11 2009, 8:56 pm
Schlomo   Whoever compared it to Purifier is horrible at com...   May 11 2009, 9:01 pm
Soxwsc   Wow.. thanks guys! I'm liking this song t...   May 11 2009, 9:44 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Thanks for the listen. Don't really care for i...   May 11 2009, 10:55 pm
Schlomo   I want some creative seventies style rock, where ...   May 11 2009, 10:58 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Has Live ever done that? No, but I think they s...   May 11 2009, 11:01 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I listened to it a few more times. and agree with...   May 11 2009, 11:22 pm
pizan0   and to those cookie cutter fans to come and say :...   May 12 2009, 7:07 am
SJN1279   Again its really hard to judge a song from a low q...   May 12 2009, 11:07 am
ShadowStormEK   That "TV Set" line is really BUGGING me...   May 13 2009, 12:51 am
Sonic Tonic   FUCk man! ... liverocks. what is stoppi...   May 11 2009, 11:26 pm
LiveRoCkS77   FUCk man! ... liverocks. what is stopp...   May 11 2009, 11:42 pm
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