gotigrz's - 'Jesus is the only way to heaven' thread, split from "Is Ed... a Christian Again?" Options

[shave98765]

good.

if all of this is true of ed... i can't say that i can go back to jamming to selling the drama or i alone, or whatever... but, i can say that i am very very happy and proud of ed kowalczyk.

This whole thread is funny.

You make it sound like Ed is a close personal friend of yours(and if that was the case, you should call him Eddie). If we "truly loved Eddie K." Are you serious? You truly love him? I love listening to his music...but would never go so far as to say I love him. I don't know him. I'm not friends with him, we don't hang out. I check his website every day, I follow his twitter and obviously i want him to be happy, but at the end of the day I realize what it is...he's an entertainer, trying to make a living, and I'm a fan. The music itself...definitely takes on a larger meaning than that...and it's definitely helped get me through some rough spots in my life.

Nobody should care what religion he is. If he has discovered/rediscovered his Christian side, and it makes him happy, good for him, I'm happy for him. If he has not, and that makes him happy, then that's great too. Do you think Ed cares what religion you are? Or I am? Or any of us? No.

I myself follow no particular religion, and definitely have not found God. I do no go to him searching for answers. With that said, I enjoy Love Shines...even if many people think that song sucks. I can enjoy any of his songs, without caring what his religious beliefs are. If he has found his Christian side, you can't jam with Selling The Drama or I Alone? Then I think you have issues that go far deeper then your religious beliefs.

And..."it's amazing how someone finding Jesus can bring such joy to someone's life (mine) and bring such sorrow to others..." I don't think anybody life will be filled with sorrow because Ed has "found Jesus." We'll be disappointed if we don't like his music...but his religious beliefs will have zero effect on my life.

"i just wish some of the ones on this board would find the Lord if they haven't yet." You sit here and criticize people for pushing their message of hoping Ed hasn't discovered his Christian side as being selfish...yet you turn around and try to push your religion on us. "i'm only hoping the best for everyone." No, you don't, you just care about pushing your message across. You clearly didn't come to this topic with an open mind. Don't misconstrue this post either, I respect all religions, and believe religion is a great thing. Just not for me, at least not at this point in my life.

On the flip side, to think that Ed can't write good music because of some newfound religious belief...that's just silly.

[gotigrz]

"Nobody should care what religion he is."

if you're a Christian,... you want others to be, too. not for your sake, but for theirs.

"Do you think Ed cares what religion you are?"

if he has truly given his heart and soul to Jesus... then yes, i do.

"yet you turn around and try to push your religion on us"

see, that's the problem... to a non-believer... when anyone that is a Christian even brings up the fact that Jesus is their Lord and Saviour... they think they are trying to "push" their beliefs on someone. i'm not doing that. i'm telling you what i believe and why i believe it. and, for me to want the same for anyone else is my decision. if you think me being happy for ed, that he found Christ, is pushing my beliefs on you... then you're the one with the problem.

"I respect all religions, and believe religion is a great thing. Just not for me, at least not at this point in my life."

see, you don't get it... Christianity isn't "something to get you through the day"... becoming a Christian isn't going to make your life easier... it's actually going to make it harder. but, i know that It will keep my soul for eternity with the Lord.

[iateyourcookie]

becoming a Christian isn't going to make your life easier... it's actually going to make it harder.

It's not supposed to. He looks down on martyrdom, y'know

I like the following...

Believe nothing merely because you have been told it.
Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher.
But whatever, after due examination and analysis,
you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -
that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.

Buddha

Peace

Beautiful. Peace indeed. More people should read this stuff.

Jesus, said... "no one comes to the Father but through Me." you can't believe that and have tolerance for other religions at the same time.

*feeds the troll*

Why not?

[gotigrz]

"Jesus, said... "no one comes to the Father but through Me." you can't believe that and have tolerance for other religions at the same time."





"Why not?"


because, Jesus said that He is THE TRUTH, THE WAY, AND THE LIFE... in other words, believing in Jesus is believing He is the only way(religion that will lead) to Heaven. and if you believe that, then you believe anything else or any other way or religion is false.

and, when i say "can't have tolerance for other religions" i'm not saying that i can't tolerate the people that believe in other religions. i'm sure there are many "good people" affiliated with all types of religions. but, being a Christian, i don't believe being "good people" will get you into Heaven. being a Christian isn't about being "good"... it's about knowing you're not and will never be "good enough" to get into Heaven by your own doings. In comes Jesus.

i know there are plenty of people that reject Christ for, what they would consider, "good reasons". but, i think a lot of people reject Him cause they don't understand Him.

This post has been edited by gotigrz: May 12 2009, 4:09 pm

[Badman]

being a Christian isn't about being "good"...

Makes sense to me

That would suck to live a life thinking you weren't good enough. I know I am good enough and challenge the world to show me different.

We got some wacky people in this world