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post Sep 11 2008, 9:52 pm
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Kevin Smith's upcoming movie, Zack and Miri Make a Porno, will include the Live song Hold Me up!

http://www.newsaskew.com/2008/09/11/zack-miri-and-live/

Partial quote taken from ViewAskew.com:

One single song reminded me how important it is to have great music in a film, and how often it’s the unknown songs that have the greatest effect.

I don’t want to ruin the film for anyone, but during an emotional scene between Zack and Miri, who are played by Seth Rogen and Elizabeth Banks, the band Live has a song that fits so perfectly, it actually made my jaw drop.

With frontman Ed Kowalczyk’s intense vocals, layered on top of the band’s heavy guitar rhythms, the scene is about as perfect as it could be.

Looking through the press notes I found out that the song was called “Hold Me Up,” but as a devout Live fan I can definitely say I’ve never heard the song before.

Thankfully, director Kevin Smith was able to give a little insight into the song. Here’s what he had to say:

"It’s an old song that I first heard in ‘95, when we were putting together the Mallrats soundtrack. It was actually in the film for the first test screening, but Live decided they wanted to hold onto it as a potential single off their next album (which would follow Throwing Copper). When I was editing Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, the song had still never surfaced or been released, so I put in a request for it again. Again, I was denied.

Third time, apparently, was the charm. Needed a song for that sequence in Zack and Miri and remembered the Live track. This time, the band signed off on us using the track. Took 13 years, but was worth the wait."

I’m still a big fan of Live, but I have to admit, there’s an intensity to the song that doesn’t seem to exist in any of the band’s recent material. Hearing it in the film, I had a good idea it was from their Throwing Copper days, but now we just have to wait and see if the studio can get the rights to use the song on the soundtrack too. If the band is smart though, they’ll consent and promote the hell out of this song - it’s one of the most memorable scenes I’ve seen all week at TIFF, and I give nearly half of that credit to the song.

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post Sep 13 2008, 8:15 pm
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Finally - good news. Thanks for the update!

For those that haven't seen them here's the lyrics (according to this site):


Hold me up in the palm of your hand
Lying to you is a river of sin
Your metaphores, your silent calls
Your feelings are too real
Let them spew, a fall from grace
Would do us good today

I'll lift you up, we can't live or cry
Hey, I'm in love, I'll take you up again
Oh, oh...

All that to you in a church by the sea
We're late, but not in the same way
We're older today

I'll lift you up, we can't live or cry
Hey, I'm in love, I'll take you up again
Your eyes have too many colours and (I can't only?) try
Your energy could be runnin' low, now
Juice is dry
Oh, oh...

Images we cannot leave behind
Like two rivers' eyes we roll back
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!

Lift me up
In the palm of your hand
Lying to you is a river of sin, oh...
Your metaphores, your silent calls
Your feelings are too real, oh...
Let them spew and fall from grace
With your love you had today, oh, oh hey...


I do have to say in regards to the talk in this thread that this is some magically with held single from SS that I don't think this song would have ever been a true single (unless there is a different version than what I have). It's a very good song and I can see how portions of it could be used in a powerful way in a movie, but from start to finish it's not a single. The refrain is solid but the guitars and cord progression are average and the bridge (in my opinion) doesn't seem to flow with the rest of the song and actually detracts from it.

If the bridge is altered, however, it could be a different story.

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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Sep 13 2008, 9:15 pm) *

Finally - good news. Thanks for the update!

For those that haven't seen them here's the lyrics (according to this site):


Hold me up in the palm of your hand
Lying to you is a river of sin
Your metaphores, your silent calls
Your feelings are too real
Let them spew, a fall from grace
Would do us good today

I'll lift you up, we can't live or cry
Hey, I'm in love, I'll take you up again
Oh, oh...

All that to you in a church by the sea
We're late, but not in the same way
We're older today

I'll lift you up, we can't live or cry
Hey, I'm in love, I'll take you up again
Your eyes have too many colours and (I can't only?) try
Your energy could be runnin' low, now
Juice is dry
Oh, oh...

Images we cannot leave behind
Like two rivers' eyes we roll back
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!

Lift me up
In the palm of your hand
Lying to you is a river of sin, oh...
Your metaphores, your silent calls
Your feelings are too real, oh...
Let them spew and fall from grace
With your love you had today, oh, oh hey...


I do have to say in regards to the talk in this thread that this is some magically with held single from SS that I don't think this song would have ever been a true single (unless there is a different version than what I have). It's a very good song and I can see how portions of it could be used in a powerful way in a movie, but from start to finish it's not a single. The refrain is solid but the guitars and cord progression are average and the bridge (in my opinion) doesn't seem to flow with the rest of the song and actually detracts from it.

If the bridge is altered, however, it could be a different story.


Not to be inflammatory, but again, I totally disagree with you. It just seems that every single thing you say makes me laugh out loud. You talk like a guy who thinks he knows what he's talking about, but it's completely obvious you haven't a clue. My guess is that you never actually completed grade nine.

First off, name one single LIVE song where the chord progression and guitars are anywhere near ABOVE average? Just one song, PLEASE. Because there are none. The guitar work is average everywhere you look, on any level, on any song.

Second, do you have any clue what a bridge is? Do you know where it is in this song? Because the bridge I hear in this song is pretty fucking good. Better than any bridge in any Live song since TDTH at least. It's classic Live with Ed screaming "yeah yeah yeah yeah" Followed by some decent guitar work, leading beautifully back into the chorus. Saying this detracts from the song just makes me laugh out loud, again.

You are entitled to your opinions, but then again, so is just about everyone. The thing is, some people simply make no sense whatsoever and to me, you are one of those people. I sincerely feel sorry for your children if you ever have any. It's a laughing shame that people like you are actually allowed to vote. So many of you leads to an utter moronic idiot like Bush being elected.

This is a great song that REEKS of single potential.


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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ Sep 16 2008, 10:21 am) *

Because the bridge I hear in this song is pretty fucking good. Better than any bridge in any Live song since TDTH at least. I


This song has a bridge? I thought a bridge was the section of the song that takes the lyrics back to the chorus. While the Yeah x4 part does do that he only does it once and I thought you had to have a bridge before every chorus if you were going to have one. Before the first chorus there is no bridge... it just kinda jumps in.

Example:

Lyrics:

naked lovers feel the blood beneath their veins
electric nerves communicate
with tiny explosions through our brains
who is this energy that never left or came?
give rise to passion the only glory
of this human story

Bridge:

I give my heart and soul to the one

Chorus:

we spend all of our lives goin' out of our minds
looking back to our birth, forward to our demise
even scientists say, everything is just light
not created, destroyed but eternally bright
masters in everytime lord in everyplace
those who stood up for love down in spite of the hate
in spite of the hate

This song isn't going to get promoted by live... you can't have a single from a movie soundtrack without album backing... unless it was some epic movie like Titanic or something.


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Bob   Hold Me Up To Be In Porno!   Sep 11 2008, 9:52 pm
Bremang   Yes! I hope the band can buy the song back   Sep 11 2008, 10:17 pm
dangum   Awesome. I wonder what made Live change their mind...   Sep 12 2008, 1:50 am
SecretInsomnia   Awesome. I wonder what made Live change their min...   Sep 12 2008, 4:49 am
Merica   This is brilliant news, let's hope the song ma...   Sep 12 2008, 2:42 am
brianblank   This is great news. I wonder if 'Hold Me Up...   Sep 12 2008, 8:07 am
LiveRoCkS77   This is great news. I wonder if 'Hold Me Up...   Sep 12 2008, 11:01 am
SJN1279   LOL. the song is called Lift me up. Smith wanted ...   Sep 12 2008, 11:35 am
Pokey   I've heard it both ways. Hold me up is the f...   Sep 13 2008, 2:40 am
Nedra   Thanks for the good news! YAY! *smiles y...   Sep 12 2008, 12:15 pm
Deku   Interesting indeed. The song is so full of ergency...   Sep 12 2008, 12:30 pm
Merica   I assume a proper studio cut version exists, and S...   Sep 12 2008, 12:56 pm
SJN1279   I assume a proper studio cut version exists, and ...   Sep 12 2008, 1:20 pm
Merica   I emailed the guy who wrote the article, and he s...   Sep 12 2008, 1:30 pm
Wambangalang   best friggin live news for 2 years!   Sep 13 2008, 1:44 am
sh4rpz   i am just as mad a kevin smith movie fan as i am a...   Sep 15 2008, 8:28 am
bsidenation   Can't wait to add this to my Rarities CD. I ju...   Sep 13 2008, 4:01 pm
Merica   Can't wait to add this to my Rarities CD. I j...   Sep 13 2008, 4:18 pm
Badman   Can't wait to add this to my Rarities CD. I j...   Sep 13 2008, 6:15 pm
SJN1279   This song isn't going to get promoted by liv...   Sep 16 2008, 1:21 pm
AgentK7   This is great news, it's about time. I wonder...   Sep 14 2008, 8:29 pm
disciple_de_+LIVE+   I just checked on friendsoflive.com's forum to...   Sep 15 2008, 11:30 am
AgentK7   I just checked on friendsoflive.com's forum t...   Sep 15 2008, 4:00 pm
SecretInsomnia   If we're talking about the well circulated mp...   Sep 15 2008, 4:14 pm
AgentK7   Ok, my memory of the clips sound quality seems bet...   Sep 15 2008, 9:12 pm
SecretInsomnia   Ok, my memory of the clips sound quality seems be...   Sep 16 2008, 7:36 am
Bremang   Swami learned before that Kevin had lost the tape ...   Sep 15 2008, 9:58 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   I like the poor versions of Lift/Hold Me Up, they...   Sep 16 2008, 5:06 am
Sonic Tonic   It needs more cowbell.   Sep 16 2008, 10:32 am
LiveRoCkS77   It needs more cowbell. BAHAHAHA, that made me...   Sep 16 2008, 10:50 am
Distance to Me   It needs more cowbell. Ha. I don't even kno...   Sep 16 2008, 7:54 pm
Existentialist   Gotta have that cowbell baby   Sep 16 2008, 10:33 am
icewaterike   This song has a bridge? I thought a bridge was t...   Sep 16 2008, 1:49 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Not contributing to the flame-war at all... just ...   Sep 17 2008, 10:22 am
Badman   What you're talking about (in the example abo...   Sep 17 2008, 5:08 pm
icewaterike   They have been plenty of singles off of movie sou...   Sep 16 2008, 1:57 pm
ridley   It needs more cowbell. http://www.morecowbell.d...   Sep 17 2008, 4:30 pm
Hoodstock   Some of you guys are a riot. You go around callin...   Sep 17 2008, 7:57 pm
Costakoui   [quote name='Hoodstock' post='41943...   Sep 18 2008, 1:28 am
Existentialist   Agreed. The song is cool but to call it a potentia...   Sep 17 2008, 8:19 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Agreed. The song is cool but to call it a potenti...   Sep 17 2008, 9:13 pm
Hoodstock   It's a better than average Live tune and bett...   Sep 19 2008, 8:10 pm
Existentialist   Agreed that it'll be the best single since TDC...   Sep 17 2008, 9:17 pm
Merica   It's still a ballin song though. Ballin, hah...   Sep 18 2008, 1:09 am
Existentialist   Yeah, in terms of the song. I think Heaven will fo...   Sep 18 2008, 1:25 am
Existentialist   Just because Live fans want to hear it doesn't...   Sep 18 2008, 1:58 am
+Ed+   Lift Me Up is a pretty sweet song, but US radio s...   Sep 18 2008, 2:12 am
Costakoui   True. Too late. History will tell us.   Sep 18 2008, 5:46 am
SecretInsomnia   well maybe it works because of the TC-vibe that Li...   Sep 18 2008, 9:26 am
icewaterike   In my opinion chances of succes for a Lift me Up ...   Sep 18 2008, 3:44 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Ya gotta think though, would anything off TC be a ...   Sep 18 2008, 8:01 pm
Costakoui   Ya gotta think though, would anything off TC be a...   Sep 19 2008, 12:33 am
+Ed+   Fact is that Live thought TC-era track We Deal in...   Sep 18 2008, 11:56 pm
SecretInsomnia   In Holland, huh? what? Live thought it would be...   Sep 19 2008, 4:27 am
Wambangalang   I think if it were released as a single the fact t...   Sep 19 2008, 2:15 am
Badman   I dont get all the talk of this being a sub-par/ ...   Sep 19 2008, 8:19 am
Hoodstock   This is a very pessimistic community. Just to ...   Sep 19 2008, 8:21 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Just to clarify not I'm pessimistic about the...   Sep 19 2008, 11:13 pm
Existentialist   Nobody's doubting that the song is good. It ju...   Sep 19 2008, 2:17 am
Costakoui   Nobody's doubting that the song is good. It j...   Sep 19 2008, 4:36 am
Wambangalang   yeh dawg, i dig   Sep 19 2008, 2:20 am
Merica   I like to believe that rationality can work alongs...   Sep 19 2008, 10:21 am
aLIVEinNORWAY   1. After the last couple albums I don't wann...   Sep 19 2008, 11:50 am
Hoodstock   But if you think that Lift Me Up is an average so...   Sep 19 2008, 8:14 pm
tswart1   Lets get real... they need to remake the song. If...   Sep 20 2008, 6:43 pm
AgentK7   Lets get real... they need to remake the song. I...   Sep 21 2008, 6:39 pm
Bremang   I bet the scene in the movie will be short and the...   Sep 21 2008, 10:46 pm
+Ed+   what? Live thought it would be good enough as a s...   Sep 21 2008, 11:39 pm
SecretInsomnia   Did it chart well in any other country? I don...   Sep 22 2008, 9:03 am
Existentialist   You guys wanna talk about Live's best potentia...   Sep 22 2008, 5:00 pm
LiveRoCkS77   You guys wanna talk about Live's best potenti...   Sep 22 2008, 7:34 pm
Badman   SFBM was more fucking embarassing than anything H...   Sep 22 2008, 10:35 pm
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