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post Jul 3 2008, 7:37 pm
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I saw this post in another thread:

QUOTE(Existentialist @ Jul 2 2008, 6:58 am) *

I agree. SOY is full of dumbass wannabe fans.


which leads me to the question, "What criteria does somebody have to meet in order for you to consider them a true Live fan?"

My list of minimum requirements would be:

- Has been to at least 5 concerts (at least one not at the nearest/most conveniet venue).
- Owns all of the bands albums (including Radiant Sea and Awake)
- Owns at least one physical bootleg (not a download)
- Has at least 1 song in their top 10 favorites that are not singles.

I may revise or alter this as I think about it.


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Two things:

1. what is a physical copy of a bootleg, is that where some guy has recordedand sold for his own profit or somethingelse.

I own two full cds of bootlegs, however they all come from downloads.

2. my partner can listen to a radio interview and tell you when it was done; she can also do this with live recordings from all over the world plus owns the TC interview disc and a copy of MTV unplugged on VHS (recorded of tv) so does this lift her above "true LIVE fan" and into say Ubber Fan status??

Becauase as I can fit into the stadard True fan catagory she still goes above and beyond.


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post Jul 10 2008, 9:47 pm
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QUOTE(rocknerd @ Jul 7 2008, 10:25 am) *
1. what is a physical copy of a bootleg, is that where some guy has recordedand sold for his own profit or somethingelse.

I own two full cds of bootlegs, however they all come from downloads.

Before the Internet (and more recently bitTorrent) became popular the easiest way to hear a concert recording of your favourite band was through bootleg CDs. In the 90's there were record labels located in Italy and other European countries that would manufacture proper CDs with full colour labels, CD art and even booklets of audience sourced recordings, soundboard shows or radio broadcasts. They would be sold in used record stores, mail order, online or in magazines such as Goldmine. Single discs would usually cost $25 - 30, while multi disc sets would cost around $40.
Through a loophole in European law these companies could legally manufacture and sell these CDs as long as a certain percentage of the proceeds were given back to the band. BUT the band's record label forbid them from receiving income from these bootleg sellers so the money never reached the intended destination.
Nowadays, these sort of companies generally don't exist. With the event of CD trading and bitTorrent fans no longer need to pay excessive amounts for live concerts of dubious quality.

Most of the bootlegs listed on the http://www.joesdiner.com/~drew site were professionally pressed CDs.


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Hoodstock   What Makes A True Live Fan   Jul 3 2008, 7:37 pm
SecretInsomnia   I saw this post in another thread: which leads me...   Jul 3 2008, 7:46 pm
Hoodstock   uhh :huh: I think when people are making a lis...   Jul 3 2008, 7:54 pm
ShadowStormEK   No fair on the attending at least 5 concerts thing...   Jul 3 2008, 9:36 pm
Pokey   Was ex really calling them wanna be fans, or dumb ...   Jul 3 2008, 9:50 pm
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Sonic Tonic   Been a fan since '94. Used to be in the fan cl...   Jul 3 2008, 10:51 pm
+Ed+   Hoodie, why don't you think of a criteria that...   Jul 4 2008, 12:51 am
Hoodstock   Hoodie, why don't you think of a criteria tha...   Jul 4 2008, 8:00 am
Wambangalang   The fandom is between your ears, inside your ea...   Jul 4 2008, 2:34 am
+Ed+   oooooh baby how i would loooove to rape this thre...   Jul 4 2008, 3:06 am
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Merica   My list of minimum requirements would be: - Has ...   Jul 4 2008, 5:53 am
+Ed+   "An idea". I am expecting if you've ...   Jul 4 2008, 8:13 am
Hoodstock   The fandom is between your ears, inside your ears...   Jul 4 2008, 8:19 am
Existentialist   I think it's a bad idea to base it off of albu...   Jul 4 2008, 10:14 am
LiveRoCkS77   I think it's a bad idea to base it off of alb...   Jul 4 2008, 5:45 pm
Tina   Doesn't serious Live trading involve a lot of ...   Jul 4 2008, 2:47 pm
Good_Pain   I couldn't agree more with what you have said ...   Jul 4 2008, 4:32 pm
Badman   My list of minimum requirements would be: - Ha...   Jul 4 2008, 10:27 pm
Live inside   I'm not a real fan either... granted I have...   Jul 5 2008, 12:22 am
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Pokey   I think it's simple, anyone who bases their kn...   Jul 5 2008, 7:48 am
tswart1   I saw this post in another thread: which leads me...   Jul 5 2008, 11:42 am
dangum   I'm not sure how you "own" a bootle...   Jul 6 2008, 2:13 am
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rocknerd   If your favorite album is V, Birds of Pray, or So...   Jul 10 2008, 9:25 pm
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