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If Live Returned To It's Roots...
What "Roots" Would You Like to See Live Return To?
the jangly, innocent pop of The Death of a Dictionary [ 1 ] ** [1.89%]
the simple-but-intense political and spiritual commentary of Mental Jewelry [ 7 ] ** [13.21%]
the rockin', diverse, socially conscious Throwing Copper [ 21 ] ** [39.62%]
the mysterious, dark, cryptive rock of Secret Samadhi [ 24 ] ** [45.28%]
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post May 6 2008, 5:59 pm
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This is purely hypothetical, because there is nothing to indicate that Live would ever try to return to any of their old styles again.

However, I have heard some discussion on this board in the past about Live returning to their "roots," and it got me thinking about what specific roots I would most like to see Live return to. Clearly, their first four albums were incredibly different stylistically from one to the next, so it would be hard to pinpoint any specific "style" of the band's early albums.

So, out of the four albums listed, which style would you most like to see Live return to someday?

(By the way, I cut it off with Secret Samadhi because, although I think TDTH is brilliant, I feel that it is their first record that is more a blending of previous styles than a new style altogether.)


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QUOTE(AgentK7 @ May 8 2008, 4:06 pm) *

I want to emphasize that I really like Secret Samadhi for what it is, a good album, just not a great album. However, I can't help but think of the lost oppurtunities they had with the band swelling their audience and becoming _THE_ next big band which everyone was predicting after the 1-2 punch of MJ and TC.


I don't know what your basis of judgement is on SS not being a 'great' album. Relatatively, in comparison to MJ and TC, it has a similar balance of strong/weak songs, and it works just as cohesively as an album. The lyrics might not be to everyones tastes, but they're much more about the sound of the words in a musical form than a literary accomplishment.

And I don't think that many people even knew of Mental Jewelry after Live got big with TC. I've heard TC referred to as Lives first album more than once, and many people have had surprised reactions in the past when I've mentioned Lives first album.

QUOTE(AgentK7 @ May 8 2008, 4:06 pm) *
I remember being so psyched for SS since it had been nearly 3 years since TC and then hearing Lakini's Juice on the radio and thinking how pretentious it was with the string arrangement. Could never get into that song. Freaks is also another novelty song that they probably hoped would be a "Shit Towne" type of track, yet should have been left as a b-side when it was wisely left off TC.


I think 'pretentious' is a rather redundant term for the description of music... especially in this case. Prententious (and who is anyone to claim that a song is based on pretence...) music is often synomous with overblown, or 'self-indulgent' music (another pretty ridiculous term that's become hip to swing around...).

Lakini's Juice, though I'd definitely describe it as a 'big' song, is hardly pretentious. It, personally, is probably my favourite Live song. I connect with it more than I do a lot of Live's material; and the lyrics play little part in that. I love the string arrangement, and wish Live would do more of that style.

I can see what you mean with the comparison of Freaks to Shit Towne. For me though, the strength of the vocal melody and the somewhat unusual bridge/chorus brings Freaks to a level above that of Shit Towne. The production of Secret Samadhi kind of erases the jokey/novelty sound of it for me anyway.


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edstipe   If Live Returned To Their Roots for the Next Album...   May 6 2008, 5:59 pm
SJN1279   This is purely hypothetical, because there is not...   May 6 2008, 6:11 pm
slainte   The devil is wearing ice skates now since I agree ...   May 6 2008, 6:29 pm
Badman   I loved SS Live! I love that artsy feeling th...   May 6 2008, 7:28 pm
AgentK7   It's not so much about returning to their root...   May 6 2008, 8:06 pm
Alex   Well, Executive Producers don't really (usuall...   May 6 2008, 9:47 pm
Badman   And what do you mean by 'too dark a producti...   May 6 2008, 10:03 pm
AgentK7   Well, Executive Producers don't really (usual...   May 7 2008, 10:06 pm
shitowne76   You are correct about the executive producer esse...   Jun 6 2008, 1:15 pm
+Ed+   (By the way, I cut it off with Secret Samadhi bec...   May 7 2008, 1:03 am
SJN1279   Nick, you know my respect to you, but this is a ...   May 7 2008, 4:20 pm
SecretInsomnia   The ebst thing to do now is, indeed, point out whi...   May 7 2008, 2:41 am
Pokey   I went SS. I don't really want to hear them ge...   May 7 2008, 6:13 am
Pain   It was pretty hard to pick between Throwing Copper...   May 7 2008, 2:50 pm
Nedra   Hmmm... I want ROCK with MEANING, I guess. Lyric...   May 7 2008, 6:40 pm
slainte   Hmmm... I want ROCK with MEANING, I guess. Lyri...   May 8 2008, 10:45 am
Nedra   It makes complete and total sense to me....The so...   May 8 2008, 1:51 pm
slainte   Like minds....must be that fresh Oregon air along ...   May 8 2008, 1:59 pm
Nedra   Ok, we'll go with that instead of old hippie m...   May 8 2008, 7:45 pm
Wambangalang   I'd rather think of "returning to their r...   May 9 2008, 8:46 am
Pokey   I'd rather think of "returning to their ...   May 9 2008, 11:23 am
slainte   Ok, we'll go with that instead of old hippie ...   May 9 2008, 11:06 am
pho3nixtar   What needs to happen is very simple: they need to ...   May 12 2008, 3:44 pm
Wambangalang   agreed. but they not only need to be a band outsid...   May 13 2008, 4:23 am
+Ed+   agreed. but they not only need to be a band outsi...   May 13 2008, 4:44 am
crazy1   im stoned by the way I figured you were!...   May 13 2008, 8:33 am
Alex   I'd rather think of "returning to their ...   May 14 2008, 12:41 am
Distance to Me   I don't necessarily want the band to return to...   May 18 2008, 12:52 pm
disciple_de_+LIVE+   Easy. Put down the acoustic. No falsetto. Don...   May 23 2008, 1:40 pm
PurdueSteve   Who cares what the lyrics/sound/producer is, if t...   Jun 6 2008, 1:53 pm
Alex   Easy. Put down the acoustic. No falsetto. Don...   Jun 6 2008, 8:33 pm
PurdueSteve   Their best album since TDTH? Carefully avoiding ...   Jun 6 2008, 8:54 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Their best album since TDTH? Carefully avoiding ...   Jun 10 2008, 9:28 pm
SJN1279   Also, as far as creativity is concerned, when is...   Jun 10 2008, 9:32 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I thought Mystery had a pretty cool bridge, but t...   Jun 10 2008, 10:50 pm
SJN1279   Actually, Mystery has no bridge whatsoever. The o...   Jun 11 2008, 6:30 am
LiveRoCkS77   What technically constitutes a bridge? A bridge...   Jun 12 2008, 9:49 pm
SJN1279   A bridge is a contrasting part of a song that bre...   Jun 13 2008, 6:31 am
+Ed+   A bridge is a contrasting part of a song that bre...   Jun 16 2008, 1:06 am
PurdueSteve   Isn't "When suddenly out of the blue she...   Jun 16 2008, 2:27 pm
disciple_de_+LIVE+   Their best album since TDTH? Carefully avoiding ...   Jun 16 2008, 3:10 pm
Alex   I'm aware of that. All I said was that the alb...   Jun 6 2008, 10:39 pm
PurdueSteve   I'm aware of that. All I said was that the al...   Jun 6 2008, 10:54 pm
Pokey   You don't get what he means ... disciple_de_+L...   Jun 7 2008, 1:24 am
PurdueSteve   You don't get what he means ... disciple_de_+...   Jun 7 2008, 6:12 am
Wambangalang   who fucking cares if the songs have accoustic guit...   Jun 7 2008, 12:16 pm
Distance to Me   who fucking cares if the songs have accoustic gui...   Jun 10 2008, 5:19 pm
Alex   In correcting disciple than how much acoustic is ...   Jun 8 2008, 8:17 pm
PurdueSteve   You obviously have no clue what you're talkin...   Jun 11 2008, 8:45 am
disciple_de_+LIVE+   Read the thread. I personally do not believe tha...   Jun 16 2008, 3:15 pm
Existentialist   Steve has a habit of thinking he's carrying on...   Jun 10 2008, 5:52 pm
Senghe   I'm not even sure if Live are capable of captu...   Jun 11 2008, 3:11 pm
Merica   I like to think LIVE have another good album in th...   Jun 12 2008, 2:18 pm
SJN1279   I like to think LIVE have another good album in t...   Jun 12 2008, 2:53 pm


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