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post Mar 25 2008, 4:59 pm
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Hey everyone, I meant to post a longer review of the show, but I simply don't have the time/motivation to sit down and do all that. So, I thought I'd post a few observations/opinions about the show at The Grove of Anaheim that I attended on March 9.

I realize that some people are going to disagree with me on these things, and I welcome discussion, but please remember that these are simply my opinions.

a) The opening band -- Carney -- was fucking awesome. Seriously! I know it's kind of blasphemous to say, but the lead singer reminded me quite a bit of Jeff Buckley. Not just in appearance, but also in style and voice. That's a HUGE compliment, and one I don't take lightly, but I couldn't help having that thought when watching his performance. I've actually done some research on the band and especially the lead singer (Reeve Carney) since the show and learned that: 1) the guy is somewhat of a protege, having learned how to play piano before he could walk; 2) he recorded an album with Peter, Paul and Mary when he was 8 years old; 3) Michael Jackson asked him to sing a part in a track on his HIStory album; and 4) he played the part of a young Ethan Hawke in Snow Falling on Cedars. Oh, and they have a live album already out and a studio album coming out in August, I think. Anybody who didn't catch them should definitely check them out!

On to the LIVE show:

b) Chad Taylor is getting fat. I know that's a random observation, but he seriously looked like he is letting himself go. Then again, I hadn't seen the band for a few years, so maybe the suddenness of his weight gain isn't as dramatic as I thought...

c) The band just seems to be going through the motions now. As has been brought up often recently, the setlist was stale and the songs sounded exactly the same as they have the last 5 or 6 times I have seen them. Not getting Operation Spirit, Turn My Head, or ANYTHING that would be a "surprise" addition to the setlist was incredibly disappointing.

d) There were a FEW decent moments in the set. Ed bringing out his daughter(s)? during "Heaven" was cute, and "Waitress" was done pretty well. "Wings" was also a pretty good performance. But that's really it. sad.gif

e) For the first time ever at a LIVE show, I didn't have the urge to sing along or even rock out. I just kind of stood along the back of the front section dumbfounded at how little emotion I felt during the show. It was a pretty sad experience, actually -- for the first time in my 13 LIVE shows, I thought that it might be my last. I don't know if that's going to be the case or not, but I know for sure that if they played another show next week or next month, I wouldn't be buying a ticket for it. sad.gif


Anyhow, that's it. Just thought I'd share my experience with the rest of the board. If anyone has any specific questions or comments about the show, feel free to shoot them my way.


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QUOTE(edstipe @ Mar 25 2008, 2:59 pm) *

Hey everyone, I meant to post a longer review of the show, but I simply don't have the time/motivation to sit down and do all that. So, I thought I'd post a few observations/opinions about the show at The Grove of Anaheim that I attended on March 9.

I realize that some people are going to disagree with me on these things, and I welcome discussion, but please remember that these are simply my opinions.

a) The opening band -- Carney -- was fucking awesome. Seriously! I know it's kind of blasphemous to say, but the lead singer reminded me quite a bit of Jeff Buckley. Not just in appearance, but also in style and voice. That's a HUGE compliment, and one I don't take lightly, but I couldn't help having that thought when watching his performance. I've actually done some research on the band and especially the lead singer (Reeve Carney) since the show and learned that: 1) the guy is somewhat of a protege, having learned how to play piano before he could walk; 2) he recorded an album with Peter, Paul and Mary when he was 8 years old; 3) Michael Jackson asked him to sing a part in a track on his HIStory album; and 4) he played the part of a young Ethan Hawke in Snow Falling on Cedars. Oh, and they have a live album already out and a studio album coming out in August, I think. Anybody who didn't catch them should definitely check them out!

On to the LIVE show:

b) Chad Taylor is getting fat. I know that's a random observation, but he seriously looked like he is letting himself go. Then again, I hadn't seen the band for a few years, so maybe the suddenness of his weight gain isn't as dramatic as I thought...

c) The band just seems to be going through the motions now. As has been brought up often recently, the setlist was stale and the songs sounded exactly the same as they have the last 5 or 6 times I have seen them. Not getting Operation Spirit, Turn My Head, or ANYTHING that would be a "surprise" addition to the setlist was incredibly disappointing.

d) There were a FEW decent moments in the set. Ed bringing out his daughter(s)? during "Heaven" was cute, and "Waitress" was done pretty well. "Wings" was also a pretty good performance. But that's really it. sad.gif

e) For the first time ever at a LIVE show, I didn't have the urge to sing along or even rock out. I just kind of stood along the back of the front section dumbfounded at how little emotion I felt during the show. It was a pretty sad experience, actually -- for the first time in my 13 LIVE shows, I thought that it might be my last. I don't know if that's going to be the case or not, but I know for sure that if they played another show next week or next month, I wouldn't be buying a ticket for it. sad.gif
Anyhow, that's it. Just thought I'd share my experience with the rest of the board. If anyone has any specific questions or comments about the show, feel free to shoot them my way.



Definitely agree about Carney, very good opening act. I wouldn't mind seeing them again. It's funny you mention the likeness to Jeff Buckley. I turned to my mom (also a huge LIVE fan) next to me and said he sounded in style a lot like Jeff. They also had a heavy blues and Beatles influence.

As for Chad T he is slimming down from where he used to be just a few months ago. I remember reading a blog of his saying he went vegetarian for awhile and ate to much pasta which led him to gain a lot of weight. I also remember someone that got to talk to him after the shows said he had been doing some form of boxing (kick or maybe Thai) 4 to 5 days a week to get back into shape.

With seeing the guys in Vegas the night before there were pluses and minus to the Anaheim show. The sound was way better, the band was tighter, and everything sounded better. Also, having missed them on the SFBM tour it was good to hear songs from that album in concert as well as Waitress and Walk the Line. The minus side is having the exact same set list and same song and dance as the night before. There were some variations and some good moments that were different from Vegas like Ed's daughter coming on stage and CT playing Sofia with a giant guitar pick.

The nice thing seeing them once every record tour is that they always play a lot of the new stuff to promote the album so I think it keeps the concerts fresh. For me it was nice since I hadn't seen SFBM songs in concert. On the other hand I don't know if I will go to back to back shows like that again because it's essentially the same show unless I know they are changing it up.

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QUOTE(UOPness @ Mar 26 2008, 1:31 am) *

Definitely agree about Carney, very good opening act. I wouldn't mind seeing them again. It's funny you mention the likeness to Jeff Buckley. I turned to my mom (also a huge LIVE fan) next to me and said he sounded in style a lot like Jeff. They also had a heavy blues and Beatles influence.

As for Chad T he is slimming down from where he used to be just a few months ago. I remember reading a blog of his saying he went vegetarian for awhile and ate to much pasta which led him to gain a lot of weight. I also remember someone that got to talk to him after the shows said he had been doing some form of boxing (kick or maybe Thai) 4 to 5 days a week to get back into shape.

With seeing the guys in Vegas the night before there were pluses and minus to the Anaheim show. The sound was way better, the band was tighter, and everything sounded better. Also, having missed them on the SFBM tour it was good to hear songs from that album in concert as well as Waitress and Walk the Line. The minus side is having the exact same set list and same song and dance as the night before. There were some variations and some good moments that were different from Vegas like Ed's daughter coming on stage and CT playing Sofia with a giant guitar pick.

The nice thing seeing them once every record tour is that they always play a lot of the new stuff to promote the album so I think it keeps the concerts fresh. For me it was nice since I hadn't seen SFBM songs in concert. On the other hand I don't know if I will go to back to back shows like that again because it's essentially the same show unless I know they are changing it up.

Mica


I could do without ever hearing SFBM again, it's embarassing.

The last show I saw, they performed the Dam At Otter Creek and Where Do We Go From Here and the show still sucked. I love seeing the band, but a bad show is a bad show. It's not so much the setlist anymore as it is the band just going through the motions. I see the energy and the passion of old gigs on you tube videos and I'm left wondering where half of that presence is.

Wondering where the creativity they used to put into some of the songs went. If you're not into it and don't have the passion anymore, give it up and get a real job. I seriously doubt I'll see them next time they come here.


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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ Mar 26 2008, 12:39 am) *

I could do without ever hearing SFBM again, it's embarassing.

The last show I saw, they performed the Dam At Otter Creek and Where Do We Go From Here and the show still sucked. I love seeing the band, but a bad show is a bad show. It's not so much the setlist anymore as it is the band just going through the motions. I see the energy and the passion of old gigs on you tube videos and I'm left wondering where half of that presence is.

Wondering where the creativity they used to put into some of the songs went. If you're not into it and don't have the passion anymore, give it up and get a real job. I seriously doubt I'll see them next time they come here.


I think they are having more fun on stage now than they did in the 90's. I especially remember cringing when Ed used to try to talk during musical breaks on songs during the Distance to Here tour. The man just seemed very uncomfortable trying to communicate with fans. It was very uncomfortable.

Over the last three years I've seen over 15 Live concerts, and I always enjoy their shows more than any other artist I've seen throughout the years. I don't feel that they've lost passion for what they are doing, and if they have, I don't think it comes across on stage.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Mar 26 2008, 9:09 am) *

I think they are having more fun on stage now than they did in the 90's. I especially remember cringing when Ed used to try to talk during musical breaks on songs during the Distance to Here tour. The man just seemed very uncomfortable trying to communicate with fans. It was very uncomfortable.

Over the last three years I've seen over 15 Live concerts, and I always enjoy their shows more than any other artist I've seen throughout the years. I don't feel that they've lost passion for what they are doing, and if they have, I don't think it comes across on stage.


If I wanted fun, I'd watch that faggoty ass FOO FIGHTERS mentos video. I don't go to a rock concert to have "fun." Like Al said, preteen girls go to shows to giggle like idiots and have fun. I go to see a show, a performance. I expect that performance to include some effort, energy and creativity. I see none of that now. You watch that You Tube video of I Alone I posted? I liked the old days when Ed had passion and ATTITUDE on stage. But I also like the videos like this where he still looks a little fruity, but at least he's rocking out, enjoying himself and giving an effort....as is the entire band. I'm sorry, but from what I've seen and heard? It's been quite some time since the guys have put on a performance of any song like this and that's sad. Maybe WD has rocked out a few times but that's about it.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8y-lE1aiE&feature=related


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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ Mar 26 2008, 9:29 am) *

I liked the old days when Ed had passion and ATTITUDE on stage. But I also like the videos like this where he still looks a little fruity, but at least he's rocking out, enjoying himself and giving an effort....as is the entire band. I'm sorry, but from what I've seen and heard? It's been quite some time since the guys have put on a performance of any song like this and that's sad. Maybe WD has rocked out a few times but that's about it.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8y-lE1aiE&feature=related


I'll see your I Alone and raise you an Iris.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EzwAnPi4IwY&feature=related

Holy crap, do I miss those days.


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QUOTE(Bob @ Mar 28 2008, 10:42 pm) *

I'll see your I Alone and raise you an Iris.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EzwAnPi4IwY&feature=related

Holy crap, do I miss those days.


Heh, nice. rockin.gif


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edstipe   A few comments about Anaheim 3/9/08 show   Mar 25 2008, 4:59 pm
SinfulEyes   Hey Ed thanks for the mini review. I was also at ...   Mar 25 2008, 6:12 pm
slainte   Damn...sorry to hear of you guys' experiences....   Mar 25 2008, 6:24 pm
SJN1279   On to the LIVE show: b) Chad Taylor is getting...   Mar 25 2008, 7:05 pm
Existentialist   But seriously, starting out a review of a concert...   Mar 25 2008, 7:57 pm
edstipe   I think they are having more fun on stage now tha...   Mar 26 2008, 10:24 am
Pokey   I think everyone knows you are the eternal optimi...   Mar 26 2008, 12:22 pm
edstipe   I am in absolute agreement with you. This is alo...   Apr 1 2008, 8:36 am
Pokey   I think they are having more fun on stage now tha...   Mar 26 2008, 12:15 pm
SinfulEyes   "How y'all feelin' now?" Dude...   Mar 26 2008, 12:23 pm
jaybb   The Vegas show could not have been different. They...   Mar 26 2008, 1:19 pm
SJN1279   The Vegas show could not have been different. The...   Mar 26 2008, 1:31 pm
Pokey   Over the last two years the band has added plenty...   Mar 26 2008, 1:42 pm
SinfulEyes   The Borgata show in Atlantic City was one of the ...   Mar 26 2008, 4:17 pm
Merica   I don't go to a rock concert to have "fun...   Mar 26 2008, 1:51 pm
SJN1279   I'll see your I Alone and raise you an Iris. ...   Mar 29 2008, 7:58 am
SecretInsomnia   If Ed was still taking as many drugs as he was at...   Mar 29 2008, 9:55 am
Hoodstock   If I wanted fun, I'd watch that faggoty ass F...   Apr 1 2008, 8:26 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Foo Fighters Kick Ass!!! :rockin: ...   Apr 1 2008, 8:33 pm
Existentialist   I guess it depends on what message you're look...   Mar 26 2008, 9:26 am
SecretInsomnia   I guess it depends on what message you're loo...   Mar 26 2008, 10:12 am
Hoodstock   Hopefully they will come out with new material whi...   Mar 28 2008, 9:56 pm
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SecretInsomnia   You are looking at the mainstream rock charts. H...   Mar 31 2008, 2:42 pm
+Ed+   Damn, Nick! :thumbsup:   Mar 31 2008, 12:21 pm
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