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post Mar 24 2008, 12:07 pm
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Hello people, I'm a n00b, but I did my little research before I decided to post here because I don't want to make you lose your time. nod.gif

A friend introduced me to Live and I liked what I've heard so far! I found a few torrents that made me happy... However, as I read the setlists on this site, I realized that The Dam At Otter Creek doesn't seem to be played often! God, I love that song and am looking for more versions. I come as a massive Radiohead fan and we have 2 amazing sites that portray each song and list their live performances, so it's easier to spot the bootlegs we should look for. So, I wonder if the same exists for Live... If no, is there a place with the boots links, like a hub or something? Thanks for any info and have a nice day. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Mar 26 2008, 4:49 pm) *

Which is linked to your site, right?

Once again you spread th bullshit and bring the negativity. I thought we were over with the previous talk over at Nirvana thread. No. It is not linked to my site. Moreover, it does not belong to my friend anymore. For more than a year. I have no benefit from spreading the word on it if you are envious or shitty in any other way. It was the first site to become the biggest collection of LIVE bootlegs in the world. I still prefer it. As when it works, it always works, if it is not being re-structured. It is the best site. I know why. If you do not, try not to be redeculis at least.

QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Mar 26 2008, 4:55 pm) *

Radiohead is a whiny bitch band. Their music sucks "fucking ass plain and simple." I can't even listen to the shit.

What next? Will you say Tchaikovsky was a bitch? You are such a retard, never even trying to explain your own point of view.


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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Mar 26 2008, 10:32 am) *

Once again you spread th bullshit and bring the negativity. I thought we were over with the previous talk over at Nirvana thread. No. It is not linked to my site. Moreover, it does not belong to my friend anymore. For more than a year. I have no benefit from spreading the word on it if you are envious or shitty in any other way. It was the first site to become the biggest collection of LIVE bootlegs in the world. I still prefer it. As when it works, it always works, if it is not being re-structured. It is the best site. I know why. If you do not, try not to be redeculis at least.
What next? Will you say Tchaikovsky was a bitch? You are such a retard, never even trying to explain your own point of view.


Ed, don't even bother with him. It's entirely pointless trying to reason with a retard.

You'll always get the same response...." Blugh ach blech buh TIMMY! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ Mar 26 2008, 1:58 pm) *

Ed, don't even bother with him. It's entirely pointless trying to reason with a retard.

You'll always get the same response...." Blugh ach blech buh TIMMY! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The only good thing about Radiohead is that Creep is one of the few songs on rock band that I can sing. Liverocks, are you even a fan of Live? All you do is run them down and compare them unfavorably to other bands? Maybe just a bad day at the office for you?


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Mar 26 2008, 7:17 pm) *

The only good thing about Radiohead is that Creep is one of the few songs on rock band that I can sing. Liverocks, are you even a fan of Live? All you do is run them down and compare them unfavorable to other bands? Maybe just a bad day at the office for you?


In case y'all can't read, LIVE is my favorite band.

Badman says that me being a fan of Radiohead is what makes me think they're superior. Just after saying that I'm not really a fan of the band.

Fact is, I'm just not biased. I can put my own personal preference aside and judge the objective side of a bands capability. I love LIVE so much more than any other band that it's not even worth it to try and explain.

But with that said, I can easily see that a band like Radiohead is far superior to LIVE in all the aspects I mentioned.

As for Floyd blowing away Radiohead in those categories? UMMMMMM, NO. Pink Floyd wrote better music lyrically than Radiohead and that's about it. As for the actual written music and creativity? They are par for the course. There are several songs Radiohead has done that are on par with Comfortably Numb with the exception of the guitar solo at the end.

Taste my be subjective, yes. But there are other aspects which are objective. Musical talent and creativity being a large part of that. You might not like how a band uses that ability but that doesn't make it subjective. Radiohead is the most creative band in the industry today and probably the most original too. Their music is far different than that of any other artist out there today. Their experimentation is very similar to that of Floyd in terms of sound and exploration.

In my opinion, Floyd is just slightly the better band. But don't overestimate them neither. Their commercial success went as far as The Wall and Dark Side Of The Moon really. Momentary Lapse Of Reason was fairly successful too. Comparing album sales of generation is completely irrelevant. In the seventies, they didn't have many computers and music wasn't accessible by any other means than the album itself.

In terms of musical ability, creativity and songwriting, my opinion is that Radiohead is the best band in the world today hands down. No contest with ANY other band. Call me a fan all you want, doesn't really mean shit to me. I'm just able to put bias aside and actually judge shit fairly instead of letting fanboyisms get in the way.


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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ Mar 26 2008, 8:37 pm) *



As for Floyd blowing away Radiohead in those categories? UMMMMMM, NO. Pink Floyd wrote better music lyrically than Radiohead and that's about it. As for the actual written music and creativity? They are par for the course. There are several songs Radiohead has done that are on par with Comfortably Numb with the exception of the guitar solo at the end.



Thanks for responding in the way you did, it got your point across I felt.

I consider myself a fan of the Floyd and I have heard so many crazy things come out of them... They considered making an album with kitchen objects as instruments at one time. The whole of the Zabrinske Point Sessions was Neo-Romanticism to me as it sounds REALLY similar to that style period. The use of voices in "several small species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave grooving with a pict" was awesome to say the least. The dissonance in "Jug Band Blues" is also a must thumbsup.gif

If there is any specific Radiohead I should listen to that can compete just gimme the names or whole albums and I would love to listen, I pride myself in Rock history.

Oh yeah, Wish you were here was also commercially successful and so was The Division Bell. It was Triple Platinum and Top album for a month in 1994. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Division_Bell

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QUOTE(Badman @ Mar 26 2008, 10:00 pm) *

Thanks for responding in the way you did, it got your point across I felt.

I consider myself a fan of the Floyd and I have heard so many crazy things come out of them... They considered making an album with kitchen objects as instruments at one time. The whole of the More album was Neo-Romanticism to me as it sounds REALLY similar to that style period. The use of voices in "several small species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave grooving with a pict" was awesome to say the least. The dissonance in "Jug Band Blues" is also a must thumbsup.gif

If there is any specific Radiohead I should listen to that can compete just gimme the names or whole albums and I would love to listen, I pride myself in Rock history.

Oh yeah, Wish you were here was also commercially successful and so was The Division Bell. It was Triple Platinum and Top album for a month in 1994. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Division_Bell


Listen to anything off of Kid A. I wouldn't call division Bell nor Wish you were here comercially successful in the least.

Musicians talent doesn't just come from their technical ability. It comes from how the actual music is written and arranged. I don't think any of you are in a position to say that Grcey is the better drummer or Chad the better guitar player. You ever sat down with either bands musicians and listened to them play? FACT is, that Live's music is mostly all poorly structured and basic. Some good melodies and excellent songwriting make it pliable. The written music itself is average at best. The progression in Radioheads music exceeds that of Live's by a trillion times.




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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ Mar 26 2008, 11:40 pm) *

Listen to anything off of Kid A.


I bet it could be a funny exercice to listen to Kid A having only listened to The Bends and try to remember that it's the same band 5 years later. lol.gif

Some help : Optimistic is probably the most accessible thing on it. And maybe The National Anthem? But one shouldn't expect to like Kid A and In Limbo at the first listen. laugh.gif Everything in it's right place, it depends on the people! Personally, I disliked it incredibly much the 3 first times, then...


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l_oiseau_rouge   The Dam at Otter Creek live   Mar 24 2008, 12:07 pm
Merica   Must admit, don't think I've ever seen a l...   Mar 24 2008, 12:23 pm
Badman   Hello people, I'm a n00b, but I did my little...   Mar 24 2008, 12:27 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   Thanks for your links! In fact, even if I have...   Mar 24 2008, 12:34 pm
SecretInsomnia   Thanks for your links! In fact, even if I hav...   Mar 24 2008, 12:53 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   But something I can tell: indeed, the last 5 - 10...   Mar 24 2008, 1:12 pm
Badman   I'm curious to know if there's a reason y...   Mar 24 2008, 1:51 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   To me if there's a reason, it's b/c it so...   Mar 24 2008, 2:09 pm
Badman   I can draw my little off topic comparison with ...   Mar 24 2008, 2:27 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   Indeed, you're talking about R.E.M. there (a...   Mar 24 2008, 3:38 pm
Badman   Of course you need to like the more "emotio...   Mar 24 2008, 7:50 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   What do they all have in common? Meaningful, cl...   Mar 24 2008, 8:35 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Radiohead and Live are not all that different. I...   Mar 26 2008, 12:32 am
Pokey   NO, OK Computer had 2 songs that YOU LIKED. The e...   Mar 26 2008, 4:07 am
+Ed+   but some of their stuff I just can't listen ...   Mar 26 2008, 4:10 am
l_oiseau_rouge   NO, OK Computer had 2 songs that YOU LIKED. The e...   Mar 26 2008, 5:39 am
LiveRoCkS77   I won't involve myself in your mb inside stor...   Mar 26 2008, 12:55 pm
Badman   There may be a few Zep songs that rank up there w...   Mar 26 2008, 6:08 pm
Merica   I remember you called someone a tree monkey... :D...   Mar 26 2008, 6:11 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   OMG what have I done :lol: How To Disappear...   Mar 26 2008, 6:25 pm
Hoodstock   Radiohead kicks Live's fucking ass plain and ...   Mar 26 2008, 8:55 am
Hoodstock   Looking for bootlegs, check out liverockspace.com ...   Mar 25 2008, 2:05 pm
+Ed+   Looking for bootlegs, check out liverockspace.com...   Mar 25 2008, 3:30 pm
Hoodstock   Which never works. Bootlegheaven.com is the best...   Mar 26 2008, 8:49 am
Badman   Looking for bootlegs, check out liverockspace.com...   Mar 25 2008, 4:31 pm
SecretInsomnia   Some sound even better live than on the cd thou...   Mar 25 2008, 4:23 pm
SecretInsomnia   Hello people, I'm a n00b, but I did my little...   Mar 25 2008, 4:27 pm
Merica   That's really cool!   Mar 25 2008, 4:57 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   That's really cool! Indeed! :) T...   Mar 25 2008, 7:50 pm
Hoodstock   You are such a retard, never even trying to expla...   Mar 26 2008, 10:27 am
Badman   Listen to anything off of Kid A. I wouldn't c...   Mar 26 2008, 11:05 pm
l_oiseau_rouge   Wish you were here sold 3 million more albums tha...   Mar 26 2008, 11:20 pm
Badman   Listen to anything off of Kid A. Kid A was The...   Mar 27 2008, 1:18 pm
Hoodstock   Continued... Excerpts from Liverocks initial stat...   Mar 27 2008, 9:38 pm
Pokey   they sound no more whiny than post 2001 Live sound...   Mar 26 2008, 12:11 pm
Joi   NO, OK Computer had 2 songs that YOU LIKED. The e...   Mar 26 2008, 2:54 pm
Existentialist   Swearing and Brain Damage A wide variety of neuro...   Mar 26 2008, 8:45 pm
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Distance to Me   I'm not even going to bother arguing with any...   Mar 27 2008, 7:26 pm
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+Ed+   Ed, don't even bother with him. It's enti...   Mar 27 2008, 1:55 am
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