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post Mar 1 2008, 11:31 am
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What song(s) by Live do you think people just gave too much credit? Songs that really weren't all that good...

They don't have to be popular commercially either. I think Night of Nights is overrated in the Live community personally.

Anyhoots, My choice is Overcome. This song comes off as whiny and reminds me of a desperate attempt by live to get sales from 9/11.


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post Mar 1 2008, 8:09 pm
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I personally think Like I do is musically the best song LIVE has ever done hands down. I think anybody saying it's overrated is just stupid because it's never been rated highly or critically acclaimed by anybody really. As EX said, don't care for the lyrics too much but the songs structure is fucking utterly fantastic.

Ed's voice goes back to his TC type scowl that everybody seems to want back and the guitar work is hands down ten times better than any other LIVE song bar maybe White Discussion. The drums in this song, if you listen close enough and drown out everything else have a unique and driving pace and get back to the alternative style of drumming we heard from Gracey in the early days. Pats bass can be heard quite prominently in this song, which is something we just don't get to hear anymore. On top of all this, the bridge in this song is utterly fantastic, probably better and more climactic than any bridge in any of Live's songs. Coming off a driving chorus, into an eerie sounding interlude where Ed belts out "don't leave" with the background vocals filling in behind it, followed by a wicked little riff and right back into a driving chorus. All finished off with driving guitar and Gracey pounding the fuck out the drums like I've never heard him come even close to doing on any other song.

The song could have been much better lyrically but musically it is pretty damn good. Ten thousand times better than anything off of BOP. A friend and I listened to the album while playing his XBOX and he was blown away by that song. Even he said that it is miles ahead of the rest of the album combined musically and we both agree that it doesn't belong with the rest of the amateurish pop crap on that album. This guy has been writing his own music for a long time and playing guitar for 20 years.

I agree with him whole heartedly. Anybody who says this song is overrated, well, just makes me want to laugh out loud. But I do agree with Nick that it wouldn't have made a great single. The majority of people aren't anywhere near smart enough to appreciate good music. I don't mean just a catchy song, but truly GOOD music that is well written, well played and executed. In my opinion, no other song comes being anywhere near as good musically. Not even close.

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Badman   Overrated   Mar 1 2008, 11:31 am
Existentialist   Good choices. I think Mystery is highly overrated,...   Mar 1 2008, 11:54 am
Badman   it sounds like Ed's nuts are in a vice. Ho...   Mar 1 2008, 11:56 am
SJN1279   Dam at Otter Creek and Stage- Never really liked e...   Mar 1 2008, 12:58 pm
tswart1   TC- Damn at Otter Creek SS- Ghost/Graze TDTH - Mel...   Mar 1 2008, 1:10 pm
Badman   TC- Damn at Otter Creek SS- Ghost/Graze TDTH - Me...   Mar 1 2008, 3:09 pm
tswart1   Don't get the DaOC hate... This thread is i...   Mar 1 2008, 3:21 pm
SJN1279   TC- Damn at Otter Creek SS- Ghost/Graze TDTH - Me...   Mar 1 2008, 3:37 pm
SecretInsomnia   I never understood all the love for Meltdown eith...   Mar 3 2008, 10:01 am
SJN1279   Does anyone else think that Show is an inferior ri...   Mar 3 2008, 12:32 pm
Merica   As others have already said, Mystery.   Mar 1 2008, 1:12 pm
Deku   'White, Discussion'. For me, Throwing Copp...   Mar 1 2008, 3:24 pm
Existentialist   I think Meltdown deserves some of the praise it ge...   Mar 1 2008, 4:19 pm
tswart1   I dont believe they played Meltdown after 1998. I...   Mar 1 2008, 4:57 pm
Existentialist   I am surprised that they never played Meltdown aga...   Mar 1 2008, 5:08 pm
tswart1   I can really only recall Sun being played once at ...   Mar 1 2008, 5:39 pm
Voodoo-Lady   No love here for Forever May Not Be Long Enough ...   Mar 1 2008, 6:23 pm
Pokey   Run to the water ... never really liked it. Never ...   Mar 1 2008, 7:12 pm
SJN1279   Run to the water ... never really liked it. Never...   Mar 1 2008, 8:08 pm
LiveRoCkS77   That's my favorite Live song....go figure. ...   Mar 1 2008, 8:20 pm
Badman   Ed's voice goes back to his TC type scowl tha...   Mar 2 2008, 12:38 am
Existentialist   I agree with some of those points and disagree wit...   Mar 1 2008, 8:18 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I agree with some of those points and disagree wi...   Mar 1 2008, 8:32 pm
Hoodstock   The most overrated song from each album: MJ - Pai...   Mar 1 2008, 8:20 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   The most overrated song from each album: MJ - Pa...   Mar 3 2008, 6:59 pm
Badman   The most overrated song from each album: MJ - Pa...   Mar 3 2008, 10:05 pm
dangum   Why is no one picking on Run away? It was a sing...   Mar 3 2008, 10:24 pm
Badman   Because the general consensus is that's it...   Mar 3 2008, 10:26 pm
Hoodstock   Wow...just wow. I'm not saying the songs on ...   Mar 4 2008, 9:09 pm
DesertWater   The most overrated song from each album: MJ - Pa...   Mar 14 2008, 6:53 pm
Hoodstock   Ouch... Besides Night of Nights, all of those son...   Mar 15 2008, 7:09 pm
flyersfan62379   Ouch... Besides Night of Nights, all of those son...   Mar 16 2008, 8:56 am
Pokey   I can't really explain why I dislike RTTW. I u...   Mar 1 2008, 8:35 pm
Hoodstock   I can't really explain why I dislike RTTW. I ...   Mar 1 2008, 8:38 pm
Merica   I can see the link, but I wouldn't call it a r...   Mar 3 2008, 12:52 pm
SJN1279   I can see the link, but I wouldn't call it a ...   Mar 3 2008, 6:25 pm
Nobody Knows   Mystery is overrated and Horse is even more overra...   Mar 3 2008, 2:04 pm
Badman   Horse is even more overrated, dont think its a t...   Mar 3 2008, 2:33 pm
beau99   Horse is not held high by anyone... O RLY NOW?...   Mar 15 2008, 4:09 am
Merica   On the contrary, I feel it is one of the better so...   Mar 3 2008, 6:46 pm
SecretInsomnia   On the contrary, I feel it is one of the better s...   Mar 3 2008, 7:02 pm
Wambangalang   the band or label are idiots   Mar 4 2008, 3:00 am
+Ed+   I personally think that it wasthought to be the mo...   Mar 4 2008, 8:25 am
Pain   Actually I don't think any song by Live is rea...   Mar 13 2008, 12:18 pm
Voodoo-Lady   Actually I don't think any song by Live is re...   Mar 13 2008, 2:50 pm
flyersfan62379   All Over You   Mar 14 2008, 12:16 pm
flyersfan62379   For the record, I think Meltdown is one of their b...   Mar 14 2008, 12:18 pm
Badman   For the record, I think Meltdown is one of their ...   Mar 14 2008, 1:28 pm
flyersfan62379   For me Meltdown is overrated in the Live communit...   Mar 15 2008, 12:54 pm


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