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post Jan 30 2008, 3:45 pm
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Whether you like the album or not, there's no debating that SFBM is a very different sounding album from the likes of MJ through TDTH. But, are there any songs on SFBM where you hear an "old" Live sound coming through?

I think the most obvious one for me is the outro on Where Do We Go From Here, which to me sounds like something of the later TDTH vintage along the lines of The Distance jam sessions that took place on the Live and Counting Crows tour.

Unfortunately, that's the only moment of the "old" Live coming through that I hear. Let's hear some ideas...


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post Feb 2 2008, 10:21 pm
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Yeah, I don't care how entitled one is to an opinion, but rating SFBM above MJ is unbelievable and fucked up.


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post Feb 3 2008, 2:32 pm
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QUOTE(Existentialist @ Feb 2 2008, 10:21 pm) *

Yeah, I don't care how entitled one is to an opinion, but rating SFBM above MJ is unbelievable and fucked up.

In my eyes it has 3 solid singles (The River, Mystery, Love Shines) which definately surpasses MJ. The rest of it is a wash. The acutal MJ album isn't all that great anyway. Concert and acoustic performances of those songs are way better than the original album recordings. For example, Opiration Spirit (as recorded) really doesn't sound that good until you hear the MTV Unplugged version.


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post Feb 3 2008, 3:31 pm
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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Feb 3 2008, 1:32 pm) *

For example, Opiration Spirit (as recorded) really doesn't sound that good until you hear the MTV Unplugged version.


You have a point about that... PLOTR, operation spirit, sound terrible on the album but great in concert. Mirror song sounds better on the album though. The way the studio version does the "happy and warm insiiiiiihhhiiiiiide" can't be recreated live. He does a weird repeat thing live like "happy and warm inside, insiheeide! yeah"

Now that I typed it, I dun think anyone is gunna understand it lol. Point is some of the early stuff could have been produced better.


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post Feb 8 2008, 10:18 pm
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QUOTE(Badman @ Feb 3 2008, 3:31 pm) *

You have a point about that... PLOTR, operation spirit, sound terrible on the album but great in concert. Mirror song sounds better on the album though. The way the studio version does the "happy and warm insiiiiiihhhiiiiiide" can't be recreated live. He does a weird repeat thing live like "happy and warm inside, insiheeide! yeah"

Now that I typed it, I dun think anyone is gunna understand it lol. Point is some of the early stuff could have been produced better.


That's the point, it's what makes MJ great amongst other things. The problem with Live's albums now is that they are overproduced to the point where it completely destroys music. Sofia is a great example. So is Life Marches On, over produced so badly, they completely ruined the fucking music.

MJ is raw and not tampered with, part of what makes it great. Guess you can't expect children to recognize something truly great, even when it's staring them straight in the face. Gives me great faith in our future generation, jesus. uhoh.gif


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Existentialist   SFBM songs that you can hear the "old" Live in   Jan 30 2008, 3:45 pm
SJN1279   Whether you like the album or not, there's no...   Jan 30 2008, 3:53 pm
SecretInsomnia   I think Where Do We Go From Here is the most like...   Jan 30 2008, 5:26 pm
Gunner Scott   To me, there is nothing at all from SFBM that soun...   Jan 30 2008, 5:46 pm
Badman   Great topic Exist! Mystery's drums to me ...   Jan 30 2008, 7:03 pm
Wambangalang   i would say the album cover design resembles TC...   Jan 30 2008, 10:06 pm
LiveRoCkS77   i would say the album cover design resembles TC...   Jan 31 2008, 12:35 am
Hoodstock   SFBM has oficially replaced V as worst LIVE album...   Feb 1 2008, 10:07 am
Badman   SFBM is right in the middle as their 4th best alb...   Feb 1 2008, 3:18 pm
Merica   SFBM is right in the middle as their 4th best alb...   Feb 2 2008, 5:38 pm
Hoodstock   I disagree with both your ranking of SFMB (I put ...   Feb 2 2008, 10:07 pm
+Ed+   SHOW could be on BoP   Jan 31 2008, 2:10 am
Pokey   Yeah definetly a lot of songs that could have slot...   Jan 31 2008, 2:30 am
SecretInsomnia   Sometimes it's just hard to fathom that the s...   Jan 31 2008, 6:52 am
ShadowStormEK   well, it's more that the same singer of the g...   Jan 31 2008, 9:49 am
Pokey   Yeah you kinda missed the point .. it wasn't s...   Jan 31 2008, 10:17 am
Pain   There isn't a song on SFBM I can link to Throw...   Jan 31 2008, 11:34 am
Alex   Live should've given up after TDTH. They would...   Feb 1 2008, 3:52 pm
Merica   In my eyes it has 3 solid singles (The River, Mys...   Feb 3 2008, 2:42 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Yeah, I don't care how entitled one is to an ...   Feb 8 2008, 10:11 pm
Alex   Well only MJ could have had better production. Thr...   Feb 5 2008, 1:52 pm
mattdm11   Well only MJ could have had better production. Th...   Feb 8 2008, 6:38 pm
slainte   That's funny because I was about to say that ...   Feb 8 2008, 10:20 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Quoted for total agreement and the fact that my w...   Feb 9 2008, 8:48 am
slainte   Awwww, well, I love that wine soaked brain! :...   Feb 9 2008, 12:35 pm
Distance to Me   Alright, everyone knows I like V, and SFBM is ok t...   Feb 9 2008, 1:53 pm
Alex   this is actually very incorrect. MJ has the BEST...   Feb 9 2008, 3:58 pm
Alex   That's the point, it's what makes MJ grea...   Feb 9 2008, 4:27 pm
LiveRoCkS77   What do you mean by 'overproduced'? I jus...   Feb 10 2008, 7:24 pm
Pokey   Not trying to speak on Liverocks' behalf, but ...   Feb 10 2008, 2:28 am
LiveRoCkS77   Not trying to speak on Liverocks' behalf, but...   Feb 10 2008, 7:26 pm
Alex   Well, yeah, that's what I would have guessed. ...   Feb 10 2008, 2:37 pm
Pokey   That's sort of why that production annoys me ....   Feb 11 2008, 6:38 am


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