2008 Facts Options

[EZY WOKKA LCD]

Here are the facts for 2008

There is a dvd AND CD to be released as a package in April/ May 2008.
The new album is of the live concert as mentioned above
A new studio album will be released in the second half of the new year - a double cd one rock and one accoustics and ballads
A world tour is slated for the second half of the year

Peace to all

[Existentialist]

I just don't tolerate stupidity. You really ought to be ashamed of your grammar and spelling, crazy1. I know you're an adult but you write like a fucking first grader. What happened to pride in intelligence?

[SJN1279]

I just don't tolerate stupidity. You really ought to be ashamed of your grammar and spelling, crazy1. I know you're an adult but you write like a fucking first grader. What happened to pride in intelligence?

Crazy1 is plenty intelligent. Grammar and spelling on a message board is a pain to check. I'm very guilty of this flaw as well.

As I tell my students, spelling does not count. As long as I can understand your point, we're cool.

[edstipe]

As I tell my students, spelling does not count. As long as I can understand your point, we're cool.

I'm jumping into this conversation late, but I sincerely hope that this comment is a joke. Sadly, I fear that it is not.

I'm a teacher. I teach English Literature and Composition to 10th and 11th grade students in a suburban, low-income school in Southern California.

I tell my students that if there's ONE thing they should get out of education, it's the ability to write with proper grammar and spelling. I know it's not the most enjoyable or entertaining thing to learn, but let's face it -- if a person leaves school not knowing the basics of writing, he/she is NEVER going to learn these things. Then, when he/she enters the real world and realizes that writing is involved in almost anything we do -- from a person's job, to household chores, to communicating with peers, associates, etc. -- it's too late.

The inability to write properly can be a tremendous obstacle in getting a job, communicating with business associates, etc. However, more than anything else, it simply makes a person look ignorant. When I have to communicate with others in everyday situations, a person who cannot use proper grammar or spelling in his/her writing automatically comes off as lacking credibility or intelligence. That may be unfair, but that's the nature of first impressions.

Anyhow, to get back to my point -- it's a tremendously sad truth that many teachers accept student writing that is marred with grammatical errors. I often hear teachers comment that it's the thoughts that matter, not the grammar or spelling. Yes, it's true that we, as teachers, need to teach students to think deeply and for themselves; however, we are doing them a huge disservice when we give them an A or B on a paper that is littered with errors in mechanics. It sends the message that it's okay not to be able to write using the basic principles of the language, which is absolutely false. Good writing has good grammar AND good thinking; not just one or the other.

Sadly, many non-English teachers today think it is the job of the English teacher alone to teach and promote basic writing skills. That is unfair and false. It is the job of ANY teacher who implements writing into his/her curriculum to emphasize and teach spelling and grammar.

I swear, I spend more time undoing the harm other teachers have done in teaching students that it's okay to make spelling and grammar errors than anything else. But you know what? My students appreciate it. I can't tell you how many students have come back to visit me after leaving my class to tell me how their next teacher complimented them on being able to write well. There is a great amount of pride to be had when students feel that they REALLY know how to write on a level on par with educated adults.

[LiveRoCkS77]

I'm jumping into this conversation late, but I sincerely hope that this comment is a joke. Sadly, I fear that it is not.

I'm a teacher. I teach English Literature and Composition to 10th and 11th grade students in a suburban, low-income school in Southern California.

I tell my students that if there's ONE thing they should get out of education, it's the ability to write with proper grammar and spelling. I know it's not the most enjoyable or entertaining thing to learn, but let's face it -- if a person leaves school not knowing the basics of writing, he/she is NEVER going to learn these things. Then, when he/she enters the real world and realizes that writing is involved in almost anything we do -- from a person's job, to household chores, to communicating with peers, associates, etc. -- it's too late.

The inability to write properly can be a tremendous obstacle in getting a job, communicating with business associates, etc. However, more than anything else, it simply makes a person look ignorant. When I have to communicate with others in everyday situations, a person who cannot use proper grammar or spelling in his/her writing automatically comes off as lacking credibility or intelligence. That may be unfair, but that's the nature of first impressions.

Anyhow, to get back to my point -- it's a tremendously sad truth that many teachers accept student writing that is marred with grammatical errors. I often hear teachers comment that it's the thoughts that matter, not the grammar or spelling. Yes, it's true that we, as teachers, need to teach students to think deeply and for themselves; however, we are doing them a huge disservice when we give them an A or B on a paper that is littered with errors in mechanics. It sends the message that it's okay not to be able to write using the basic principles of the language, which is absolutely false. Good writing has good grammar AND good thinking; not just one or the other.

Sadly, many non-English teachers today think it is the job of the English teacher alone to teach and promote basic writing skills. That is unfair and false. It is the job of ANY teacher who implements writing into his/her curriculum to emphasize and teach spelling and grammar.

I swear, I spend more time undoing the harm other teachers have done in teaching students that it's okay to make spelling and grammar errors than anything else. But you know what? My students appreciate it. I can't tell you how many students have come back to visit me after leaving my class to tell me how their next teacher complimented them on being able to write well. There is a great amount of pride to be had when students feel that they REALLY know how to write on a level on par with educated adults.

Good to see that there are some teachers who still give a shit. The young minds that pass through your hands at least have a fighting chance. Keep up the good work on that front because you're making a difference in peoples lives.

I know a few people who have spent over a hundred grand on their university educations, yet still need a calculator or a pen and paper to do basic math. I do the directors sales board for our company without a calculator, dealing with numbers in the millions. Yet we have university educated people who panic when pressed to answer what any given percentage of a figure over a million dollars is. The same people whose writing you can't read for it's lack of proper punctuation, not to mention the fact the my 11 years olds writing is far more legible and cohesive.

I just find it sad that the acceptable threshold of average intelligence seems to have hit rock bottom. People being content with their limitations. Such a sad statement on our race considering the capacity of the human brain being pretty much limit free.

Oh well, keep up the good work anyhow.

[Badman]

not to mention the fact the my 11 years olds writing is far more legible and cohesive.

Is legibility important to all of you? I have a serious problem with it but everything I write in an essay is grammatically sound and easily understood. I really don't think my handwriting is that big of a deal because I still got 4s on both my English AP tests and I believe they are the best test a student can take. Well... unless you want to get into the very best of schools... but that isn't me because I am dirt poor