2008 Facts Options

[EZY WOKKA LCD]

Here are the facts for 2008

There is a dvd AND CD to be released as a package in April/ May 2008.
The new album is of the live concert as mentioned above
A new studio album will be released in the second half of the new year - a double cd one rock and one accoustics and ballads
A world tour is slated for the second half of the year

Peace to all

[Existentialist]

Thanks for backing me up Trathena. I agree with your reply to Nick; it's a retarded argument made by a bunch of American idiots. The sad thing is that he's actually a teacher. I just decided I'm home schooling my kids!

This post has been edited by Existentialist: Dec 5 2007, 8:21 pm

[SJN1279]

Thanks for backing me up Trathena. I agree with your reply to Nick; it's a retarded argument made by a bunch of American idiots. The sad thing is that he's actually a teacher. I just decided I'm home schooling my kids!

I'm a high school physical education and health teacher. In my health class, I could care less if my students can spell chlamydia 100 percent correctly on an exam. I just want them to understand the dangers of contracting such an illness, so that they can avoid problems in their life.

I have many faults, but I can honestly say I'm a damn good teacher. I care about my students welfare and make myself available to be an advisor whenever they need one. That's what teaching is all about.

By the way, using the word retarded makes you look ignorant. For someone who claims to be so educated, you should know how disgraceful of a word it is to use in casual conversation. There are many students out there with various learning disabilities, and whenever you use that word so readily, its a slap in the face to them.

[Trathena]

I'm a high school physical education and health teacher. In my health class, I could care less if my students can spell chlamydia 100 percent correctly on an exam. I just want them to understand the dangers of contracting such an illness, so that they can avoid problems in their life.

I'm sorry, but this is bugging me. Why don't you care if they can spell it? When did learning to spell the words of diseases in health class (for god's sake!) become unimportant? It's not even that hard to spell. It's practically phonetic.

And the lesson isn't that difficult: Chlamydia is an STD; wear a rubber. Is the lesson on avoiding STDs so freaking hard that it's beyond the pale to expect students to learn how to spell them? Have we lowered the bar that much? If teachers (even if they are PE teachers) don't expect the fucking basics from their students, why even continue to pretend education is important?

You're not alone, SJN, and I'm not trying to pick on you. In college, I had a History professor who graded grammar, syntax, and spelling along with content for our essays, and the griping among my peers was huge. To them, it was bad enough they had to (gasp!) write papers for a history class, but having to write well-written ones? That was just ridiculous. I was embarrassed for them too.

Here is an example of a typical post on another band's message forum. This is all from the same girl:

COOL!you live in france how awsome!!!!!!how is it there?

wow.your from france too?my sister wants to go to france...

awsome...you shouled u whouled like it here!

This is a high school girl. These quotes are all from the same thread. I've gotten to the point that if she's the last post I don't even click on it. This is how she writes. And she's not alone by a long shot. She's become the norm. It's sickening.

Typos are one thing. They're expected. I have typos in posts. But the above (and the posts here that existential is referring to) is just sloppy, lazy, not-giving-a-shit writing. That's inexcusable, and should be embarrassing.

[LiveRoCkS77]

I'm sorry, but this is bugging me. Why don't you care if they can spell it? When did learning to spell the words of diseases in health class (for god's sake!) become unimportant? It's not even that hard to spell. It's practically phonetic.

And the lesson isn't that difficult: Chlamydia is an STD; wear a rubber. Is the lesson on avoiding STDs so freaking hard that it's beyond the pale to expect students to learn how to spell them? Have we lowered the bar that much? If teachers (even if they are PE teachers) don't expect the fucking basics from their students, why even continue to pretend education is important?

You're not alone, SJN, and I'm not trying to pick on you. In college, I had a History professor who graded grammar, syntax, and spelling along with content for our essays, and the griping among my peers was huge. To them, it was bad enough they had to (gasp!) write papers for a history class, but having to write well-written ones? That was just ridiculous. I was embarrassed for them too.

Here is an example of a typical post on another band's message forum. This is all from the same girl:
This is a high school girl. These quotes are all from the same thread. I've gotten to the point that if she's the last post I don't even click on it. This is how she writes. And she's not alone by a long shot. She's become the norm. It's sickening.

Typos are one thing. They're expected. I have typos in posts. But the above (and the posts here that existential is referring to) is just sloppy, lazy, not-giving-a-shit writing. That's inexcusable, and should be embarrassing.

Honestly, I think you are giving too much credit here. I find that if it were just plain laziness or somebody just being sloppy, it would be ok. But in most instances, I think you are seeing the true grammar skills these people posess. I don't think they are capable of much more. I think they give a shit, but couldn't correct those errors if their lives depended on it.