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post Oct 15 2007, 6:40 pm
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Since Live is wrapping up and the board members are attacking each other, I thought it would be a good idea to provide a place to discuss Live's work. And a good place to start with their work is Throwing Copper.

The Idea - Analyze the album (in this case Throwing Copper) song by song, stating whatever you want or whatever comes to mind about each song. Go into as much or as little detail as you want and then summarize your overall thoughts on the album at the end. Just speak your mind openly. If there is a lot of feedback, we can do it again with another album at a later time.

You can copy and paste the following to make it easy if you want:

1. The Dam At Otter Creek

2. Selling The Drama

3. I Alone

4. Iris

5. Lightning Crashes

6. Top

7. All Over You

8. Shit Towne

9. T.B.D.

10. Stage

11. Waitress

12. Pillar of Davidson

13. White, Discussion

14. Hidden Track (Horse)

Overall Summary:


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post Oct 15 2007, 9:00 pm
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1. The Dam At Otter Creek

Perfect beginning track. I have never heard an album with a better intro that fit with the whole album. A second to this would be Korn's new album intro.

2. Selling The Drama

Hotly debated song that sounds great acoustic or whatever! I can tell he really spent time and crafted the poetry of this song.

3. I Alone

It's good... I dunno how it is radio good but okay. "Leave you there by yourself chained to fate" was such a good line. It was one of the preachier songs but I love the preachy, religion preachy only though...

4. Iris

Never understood the Knuckles part. Oddly sandwiched between two better songs.

5. Lightning Crashes

This song is one of the best I have ever heard. The clashes between soft and hard and the buildup to an emotional end make for an awesome studio song... not live... it gets lost when done live

6. Top

This coulda been a radio hit! I bet the bit about hitler is what held it down.

7. All Over You

Great opener for a show! It has Ed's weird voice that I don't know the name for but love. This song is really confusing though. What is it talking about?

8. Shit Towne

I think it is a little tasteless. Did they have to use the word "shit'? good at the end

9. T.B.D.

OMG bass. this song is so very good but you have to have a lyric sheet to understand it. It is lost on casual fans.

10. Stage

This song is one of those songs that gets better with time. It is superficial with the lyrics but It with lines like, "words are too feeble, they cannot contain" that it redeems itself. Also, Ed has never used the F bomb more effectively.

11. Waitress

Another Shit towne in my opinion. I Don't like the "she was a bitch" line. The Ed I know doesn't disrespect women.

12. Pillar of Davidson

I don't see why everyone downs this song. It is up there with LC in my opinion. It is also one of the easier live songs to sing when you are alone. Have you ever tried to sing "Mirror Song"? Also, The background singing at the end is awesome.

13. White, Discussion

I don't like the message in this song. It actually goes against my beliefs and I can't shift the song's meaning to be anything else. It basically confirms the Rapture in my eyes.


14. Hidden Track (Horse)

Move Susquehanna to song number 13. the Susquehanna from the acoustic sessions is the better one... not the demo version.

OVERALL OPINION:

We shoulda started with an album where all the songs weren't good. Let's do MJ or DOAD!


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Hoodstock   Album Analysis   Oct 15 2007, 6:40 pm
Hoodstock   1. The Dam At Otter Creek - Great energy build up ...   Oct 15 2007, 6:54 pm
stud   12. Pillar of Davidson This is easily the best son...   Oct 15 2007, 9:08 pm
Wambangalang   1. The Dam At Otter Creek ooh, we're in for a...   Oct 15 2007, 10:00 pm
Badman   douchbag before was offended by the word "s...   Oct 16 2007, 5:46 am
torcatofan   1. The Dam At Otter Creek Great 2. Selling The Dr...   Oct 15 2007, 10:14 pm
Wambangalang   is anything necessary?   Oct 16 2007, 1:31 pm
Hoodstock   I'm not going to analyze each song because ev...   Oct 17 2007, 7:04 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   1. The Dam At Otter Creek I know you gonna think I...   Oct 16 2007, 4:03 pm
Gunner Scott   1. The Dam At Otter Creek A great start to an alb...   Oct 16 2007, 5:19 pm
AgentK7   You can't forget how much the artwork and albu...   Oct 16 2007, 5:55 pm
Hoodstock   Throwing Copper was a cryptic title that probably...   Oct 16 2007, 7:02 pm
AgentK7   Throwing Copper came from a reference when Pat an...   Oct 17 2007, 7:08 pm
DesertWater   I'm not going to analyze each song because eve...   Oct 16 2007, 11:50 pm
CRH   1. The Dam At Otter Creek- I love the way this son...   Oct 18 2007, 4:52 pm
Badman   I always thought Throwing Copper stood for all the...   Oct 17 2007, 7:36 pm
Hoodstock   I always thought Throwing Copper stood for all th...   Oct 19 2007, 7:36 pm
Alex   :D ^ 1. The Dam At Otter Creek- Amazing opener. P...   Oct 18 2007, 1:51 pm
K. Schrader   nice topic, i think :thumbsup: how about we do t...   Oct 18 2007, 3:23 pm
Merica   1. The Dam At Otter Creek Admittedly I used to sk...   Oct 20 2007, 2:41 am
Hoodstock   2. Selling The Drama One of my first Live songs,...   Oct 21 2007, 6:23 pm
Merica   :D :heynow:   Oct 22 2007, 5:44 am
Costakoui   Iris is Live's best song ever, hands down...   Oct 22 2007, 7:37 am
Merica   I can't work out what made you laugh, Hoodstoc...   Oct 24 2007, 4:00 am
Hoodstock   I can't work out what made you laugh, Hoodsto...   Oct 25 2007, 2:57 pm
Merica   No it isn't, right click it and check the url ...   Oct 25 2007, 5:34 pm
Hoodstock   No it isn't, right click it and check the url...   Oct 27 2007, 10:02 am
Merica   It is whatever the hell I say it is! The UR...   Oct 27 2007, 10:27 am
Distance to Me   Ok, I'm gonna start off by saying that I perso...   Oct 27 2007, 1:27 pm
mattdm11   Ok, I'm gonna start off by saying that I pers...   Oct 29 2007, 10:32 pm
Distance to Me   Oh yeah, meant to say, nice topic. You should star...   Oct 27 2007, 1:30 pm
Distance to Me   Lol yep. I'm probably the youngest person here...   Oct 30 2007, 6:16 pm
Hoodstock   Lol yep. I'm probably the youngest person her...   Oct 30 2007, 7:09 pm
Badman   he wasn't actually there for TC, so the impa...   Oct 30 2007, 9:20 pm
Merica   I think it's a good thing. We have a huge bi...   Oct 31 2007, 1:31 am
Distance to Me   Ha, sorry for not liking Throwing Copper that much...   Oct 31 2007, 7:53 pm
Badman   I am much more of a child of the nineties and 70...   Oct 31 2007, 8:33 pm
Distance to Me   I'll look into the bands too. The Black Crowes...   Oct 31 2007, 8:38 pm
Distance to Me   Oh yea, if you like that stuff, buy the album ...   Oct 31 2007, 8:39 pm
Voodoo-Lady   Album analysis is a way cool idea to get back into...   Nov 6 2007, 5:07 pm
Hoodstock   Album analysis is a way cool idea to get back int...   Nov 10 2007, 9:37 pm
rocknerd   This album is THE album. 1 because it was the brea...   Nov 8 2007, 4:01 pm
Alex   Apparently there may be a link between young age ...   Nov 11 2007, 3:21 pm
Distance to Me   14. Been a Live fan since I was 10, back when I fi...   Nov 11 2007, 5:41 pm


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