Radiant Sea performance origins, When and Where the live tracks and two new songs came from Options

[AgentK7]

I was hoping this thread could pull the forum's vast Live live knowledge together to track down where the live tracks came from on Radiant Sea. I was kind of miffed that they didn't include that information on the CD packaging.

Anyway, I know track 8 "Nobody Knows" is the same live performance as found on the Birds Of Pray DVD recorded on May 18, 2002 at PinkPop, Landgraaf, The Netherlands. (I know that's an easy one, but it's a start).

I know I could probably use Bootleg Heaven and figure out most of it myself, but I don't have enough free time to do that. I'm sure other members are also curious.

I'm hoping we can wrap this thread up by figuring out all the performances, maybe this information could then be added to the live discography, etc.

....and to discover the origins of the two new tracks.

This post has been edited by AgentK7: Sep 24 2007, 8:05 pm

[SecretInsomnia]

a copy of one of my post on the other board:

great songs!!! especially Radiant Sea

well you know what ,

before I heard the new songs, I got the artwork from a friend, on which you can read that both songs are remixed by the producers who did V. So those are V songs, I thought. Well, also Michael Railton is named for those songs, as said in the posts before, and the only time he worked with them on record, was on V. If I remember correctly he's named for one or both new ongs, not the live recordings.

But, now according to Radiant Sea, now I heard it, the deep Live 'feeling', the whole atmosphere that it breathes, makes me that I just can't believe it's a V outtake. V has pretty cool songs, sure. but not any song on there hits that special feeling that you recognise Live in (most of TDTH songs had that).
Also the lyrics are more TDTH-ish than V-ish. So...hmmm ??

My explanation is, that it's a 'demo', an early song from TDTH, which was finished in the V era. Maybe it was already done, and that they mixed it for V, that would explain the credits that let us believe it's from V.
Remember the thing about V? Ed wrote many songs of it on tour, but some other songs of it came from what they kept from the TDTH era (1998-2000). Check Overcome: that's a TDTH song, but used (and finished) for V.

Ohw and about the Trickey thing: I'm not sure it's him first: he isn't named in the artwork, and second: it doesn't sound like the Trickey we know from SC en Evolution R L.

everyone says it's Tricky, but why? Cuz it's the only rapping artist Live worked with? I don't know if it's Tricky.Can be Chad Taylor..imagine it , who knows. Ohw and remember the strange voice in WDID (on Awake) ? It also turned out to be Chad if I remember correctly.

just my 2 cents !

This post has been edited by SecretInsomnia: Sep 25 2007, 4:34 pm