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Hello,

I've been browsing this board for a few years now, just to keep up with the latest on my favorite band, Live. Today, I finally decided to register, so I can actually contribute.

I read in the tour section a few differing opinions about something that may or may not even be that big of deal, but I have an opinion, so I figured I'd share, for sharing's sake.

I personally can't stand when Ed takes his shirt off at shows. I understand he is the artist, and his expression should ideally be unfettered, but still... I think he loses the connection with the audience. I know he's been doing this for years, but maybe we've just grown numb as to how lame he actually looks.

I've been an AVID Live fan since 94, and I still love the band, and I still love the shows. For me, this is something that I have just learned to tolerate. I recently took one of my buddies to a show, and when he started stripping, I couldn't help but cringe inside. Same thing when I took my girlfriend to a show. It just gets awkward. And both my friend and my girlfriend agreed that the stripping made the show much more cheezy and "gay" and much less cool.

You want to get into the songs wholeheartedly, but something just prevents you from doing so.

So, what do you guys think?


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post Aug 6 2007, 7:23 am
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QUOTE(Godiva @ Aug 6 2007, 6:05 am) *

Hmm... points to ponder I suppose. But something tells me that they don't care what the masses think. Perhaps they only want fans who have evolved with them or relate to the simpler, more comtemplative SFBM LIVE. I wish we knew what they really thought of that album.

As for their popularity? I'm not delusional. I know everyone I know thinks I'm nuts for loving LIVE. SFBM is really the only album they've put out that I can't listen to over and over again. I do worry with you that their popularity will dwindle to the point that they won't tour anymore. I agree that I think they have a lot left in them and I hope that whatever muse has kept them together this long doesn't become silent and uninspiring, leading way to a slow painful death. But on the other hand, maybe they don't want the rockstar lifestyle anymore and are taking it down a notch for family and real life. But if they want to keep making money in the US, I agree that something has to change because they don't seem ready for that.

Doesn't Ed still think he's the world's key to enlightenment? As long as he does, they'll be making music, regardless of record sales. nod.gif Also, you have to remember that LIVE isn't popular at all in the US compared to overseas. Hasn't Ed said that the center of the LIVE universe is in Holland? How were SFBM sales there and elsewhere? Is that 500K number worldwide? If not, I wouldn't get my hopes up about too much of a change from the status quo.
If so... well, er... I don't want to think about it. Apparently it's still enough to support them for now...


I also get from people...I'm going to see Live in concert and they say Yeah? What band? I have to say the BAND is called "Live", then they repeat themselves .. yeah but what band are you seeing live? it's kinda like that whose on first base joke....


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patrick W BURG   A discussion a long time coming   Aug 3 2007, 9:59 am
PurdueSteve   It seems to be a hang up that a small percentage o...   Aug 3 2007, 10:22 am
patrick W BURG   Nah, It bothers me just as much, independent of my...   Aug 3 2007, 10:41 am
Heather   Nah, It bothers me just as much, independent of m...   Aug 3 2007, 10:58 am
FishOutaWater   I have to say that I could care less if he takes h...   Aug 3 2007, 11:00 am
Existentialist   No, you're not in the minority. Remember, most...   Aug 3 2007, 10:55 am
Godiva   No, you're not in the minority. Remember, mos...   Aug 3 2007, 11:53 am
crazy1   Hello, I've been browsing this board for a ...   Aug 3 2007, 11:05 am
Existentialist   It has nothing to do with his taking his shirt off...   Aug 3 2007, 11:10 am
Godiva   It has nothing to do with his taking his shirt of...   Aug 3 2007, 11:21 am
tiger   I hardly ever post here but had to agree on this o...   Aug 3 2007, 11:58 am
sellingthdrama   I hardly ever post here but had to agree on this ...   Aug 3 2007, 12:24 pm
patrick W BURG   few items -- for the people who just think, ...   Aug 3 2007, 12:43 pm
LiveRoCkS77   few items if I don't like the shirt remova...   Aug 3 2007, 1:17 pm
patrick W BURG   No. I hope you are joking. And if you are, it...   Aug 3 2007, 1:26 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I hope you are joking. And if you are, it's ...   Aug 3 2007, 1:30 pm
patrick W BURG   No joke man, you taken the homophobe test? Hmm...   Aug 3 2007, 1:36 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Hmm maybe you're on to something then. I can...   Aug 3 2007, 1:44 pm
patrick W BURG   NO. I'm just of the opinion that anybody who ...   Aug 3 2007, 1:52 pm
LiveRoCkS77   If I dislike something that you like, then obviou...   Aug 3 2007, 2:05 pm
patrick W BURG   HUH???? Where did I tell you not to voice your op...   Aug 3 2007, 2:29 pm
LiveRoCkS77   You said my hang-ups are my problem.. aka I shoul...   Aug 3 2007, 2:48 pm
FishOutaWater   I can definitely see the point that has been made ...   Aug 3 2007, 2:32 pm
Godiva   I hardly ever post here but had to agree on this ...   Aug 3 2007, 3:01 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I think this is a good point. This is all just a...   Aug 3 2007, 3:14 pm
Godiva   AMEN!!!! Great post and enjoy you...   Aug 3 2007, 4:10 pm
Heather   It has nothing to do with his taking his shirt of...   Aug 3 2007, 11:40 am
Godiva   Amen! I just think they would put on a much b...   Aug 3 2007, 11:47 am
Godiva   It may be because I'm a girl, but I've nev...   Aug 3 2007, 11:16 am
Heather   Well I can't say for sure it is still that way...   Aug 3 2007, 11:55 am
crazy1   Amen! I just think they would put on a much b...   Aug 3 2007, 12:09 pm
Heather   I see your point, it kinda dawned on me when I re...   Aug 3 2007, 12:14 pm
crazy1   I hardly ever post here but had to agree on this ...   Aug 3 2007, 12:15 pm
Heather   So most people would just like Ed to stand there ...   Aug 3 2007, 12:18 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I think you missed the point. It wasn't that ...   Aug 3 2007, 12:29 pm
tiger   So most people would just like Ed to stand there ...   Aug 3 2007, 12:31 pm
tiger   No, I'd rather have him grope himself and run...   Aug 3 2007, 12:37 pm
Live inside   You all are a bit spoiled i guess. Maybe you...   Aug 3 2007, 12:44 pm
LiveRoCkS77   No, I'd rather have him grope himself and run...   Aug 3 2007, 1:12 pm
tiger   Live were at their best when Ed groped himself oc...   Aug 3 2007, 1:22 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I don't recall Ed groping or shaking his bon ...   Aug 3 2007, 1:28 pm
tiger   Well that's nice!!! Shut your fac...   Aug 3 2007, 1:35 pm
LiveRoCkS77   I think you are just looking for an argument beca...   Aug 3 2007, 1:40 pm
Wambangalang   I think it's the white and nerdy types who ge...   Aug 3 2007, 12:35 pm
crazy1   few items -- I think Existentialist and sellingt...   Aug 3 2007, 12:50 pm
patrick W BURG   I'm too busy enjoying the music to "feel...   Aug 3 2007, 12:54 pm
Heather   One of the biggest reasons for going to shows is ...   Aug 3 2007, 12:58 pm
ShowalittleLove   I like Ed's stage presence, no shirt included....   Aug 3 2007, 12:58 pm
crazy1   One of the biggest reasons for going to shows is ...   Aug 3 2007, 1:01 pm
crazy1   I don't recommend Adam D taking off his shirt...   Aug 3 2007, 1:03 pm
lynn32701   My two cents ... I've been to a few shows my...   Aug 3 2007, 1:07 pm
Tina   Welcome Patrick! :wave: I see everyone...   Aug 3 2007, 1:10 pm
crazy1   My two cents ... I've been to a few shows m...   Aug 3 2007, 1:12 pm
crazy1   I don't recall Ed groping or shaking his bon ...   Aug 3 2007, 1:27 pm
crazy1   Obviously you don't know much about Ricky Ma...   Aug 3 2007, 1:42 pm
lynn32701   Can't we all just get along? Group hug! ...   Aug 3 2007, 1:43 pm
crazy1   If I dislike something that you like, then obviou...   Aug 3 2007, 1:59 pm
tswart1   Basically its like this.... If you've been fo...   Aug 3 2007, 2:03 pm
swami   Ed's a sexy sombitch. Shirt's off!   Aug 3 2007, 2:28 pm
patrick W BURG   My intention for this topic was simply to see what...   Aug 3 2007, 3:28 pm
LiveRoCkS77   My intention for this topic was simply to see wha...   Aug 3 2007, 9:17 pm
Existentialist   Don't worry about Liverocks. I think it's ...   Aug 3 2007, 6:28 pm
Hoodstock   Seriously, if I go to a rock concert I'm there...   Aug 3 2007, 8:47 pm
Existentialist   Seriously, if I go to a rock concert I'm ther...   Aug 3 2007, 8:51 pm
Hoodstock   Again, at least understand what we're saying ...   Aug 3 2007, 9:03 pm
LiveRoCkS77   Again, at least understand what we're saying ...   Aug 3 2007, 9:29 pm
lynn32701   I'm closer to 35 than 34 ... and proud of it...   Aug 3 2007, 6:41 pm
Existentialist   That's all fine by me, but it should put thing...   Aug 3 2007, 6:47 pm
crazy1   I still think Ed looks like a bitch....although ...   Aug 3 2007, 7:24 pm
beau99   I don't care if Ed does what he does, and I...   Aug 3 2007, 7:27 pm
Existentialist   I think Ed is HOT and I'm in my 30's not ...   Aug 3 2007, 8:01 pm
torcatofan   Either this topic has a lot of posts for one day o...   Aug 3 2007, 7:59 pm
Existentialist   Internet tough guys scare me :yay:   Aug 3 2007, 9:52 pm
Wambangalang   Do you think they gave a fuck what anyone though...   Aug 3 2007, 10:17 pm
Existentialist   I guess, but the music they made is what they want...   Aug 3 2007, 10:31 pm
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