A discussion a long time coming Options

[patrick W BURG]

Hello,

I've been browsing this board for a few years now, just to keep up with the latest on my favorite band, Live. Today, I finally decided to register, so I can actually contribute.

I read in the tour section a few differing opinions about something that may or may not even be that big of deal, but I have an opinion, so I figured I'd share, for sharing's sake.

I personally can't stand when Ed takes his shirt off at shows. I understand he is the artist, and his expression should ideally be unfettered, but still... I think he loses the connection with the audience. I know he's been doing this for years, but maybe we've just grown numb as to how lame he actually looks.

I've been an AVID Live fan since 94, and I still love the band, and I still love the shows. For me, this is something that I have just learned to tolerate. I recently took one of my buddies to a show, and when he started stripping, I couldn't help but cringe inside. Same thing when I took my girlfriend to a show. It just gets awkward. And both my friend and my girlfriend agreed that the stripping made the show much more cheezy and "gay" and much less cool.

You want to get into the songs wholeheartedly, but something just prevents you from doing so.

So, what do you guys think?

[crazy1]

I hardly ever post here but had to agree on this one. Ed has evolved into and embraced the whole rock star thing. Back in the day Ed never would have done this or acted this way. In fact, when they shot their first video for MTV and were asked to take their shirts off, they all cringed and took issue with it. I've been there since day one and I've seen the evolution. It really kicked in during the V era when he got all into Henry Miller and tantric sex. It's all very cheesy and nothing like the beginning. I remember a show from the Mental Jewelry tour when he came out in his hoodie, stood in one place and sang with such conviction. It was pretty mesmerising and menacing. I'd say things are a little different these days.

So most people would just like Ed to stand there and sing? Boring!!!! That is all he did back in the early 90's. I thought the concerts were quite boring. They are up there to entertain not just stand there and sing, any band can do that.

[tiger]

So most people would just like Ed to stand there and sing? Boring!!!! That is all he did back in the early 90's. I thought the concerts were quite boring. They are up there to entertain not just stand there and sing, any band can do that.

No, I'd rather have him grope himself and run around like Ricky Martin. He didn't just stand there the whole show. But the fact that he could and it was more entertaining than anything he does today was the point.



This post has been edited by tiger: Aug 3 2007, 12:41 pm

[LiveRoCkS77]

No, I'd rather have him grope himself and run around like Ricky Martin. He didn't just stand there the whole show. But the fact that he could and it was more entertaining than anything he does today was the point.

Live were at their best when Ed groped himself ocassionally and ran around like "Ricky Martin"

The days of the rat tail and the SNL Lakini's Juice performances were flat out wicked. When they perform White Discussion and Ed is running around sreaming and going nuts is when Live are at their best. Debate that all you want, you won't win that argument with me.

Ed dancing around like a freak and looking like he's having a seizure during I Alone is what made LIVE, well.....LIVE. That was what made those songs such maddening friggin rock, the energy and passion that went into performing them. That is what people today don't get to see anymore except on rare ocassion.

[tiger]

Live were at their best when Ed groped himself ocassionally and ran around like "Ricky Martin"

The days of the rat tail and the SNL Lakini's Juice performances were flat out wicked. When they perform White Discussion and Ed is running around sreaming and going nuts is when Live are at their best. Debate that all you want, you won't win that argument with me.

Ed dancing around like a freak and looking like he's having a seizure during I Alone is what made LIVE, well.....LIVE. That was what made those songs such maddening friggin rock, the energy and passion that went into performing them. That is what people today don't get to see anymore except on rare ocassion.

I don't recall Ed groping or shaking his bon bon to Lakini's Juice, White Discussion or I Alone. That is an argument that you won't win.

[LiveRoCkS77]

I don't recall Ed groping or shaking his bon bon to Lakini's Juice, White Discussion or I Alone. That is an argument that you won't win.

Well that's nice!!! Shut your face and go back and watch the video of it then!! I have the video here and he does grab himself during it.

Also, I don't or never have seen Ed shake his whatever faggy little name you called it. That was not an issue here so don't make it one. Stick to the point. The issue was him running around and the groping. You lost. Those old performances of those songs were when LIVE were at their best. Argue the point at least.

The old videos of songs like I Alone is what made Live the energetic, passionate rock band they WERE. That was my argument. Don't go adding nonsense or changing it into something different.