What's Up With The Setlist??? Options

[Hoodstock]

I absolutely love Live, but the setlist has to change . I just checked what they played on June 10th this year with Collective Soul. It's almost the exact same setlist as last year . It was:

1) Mystery
2) All Over You
3) Selling The Drama
4) The River
5) Mirror Song
6) They Stood Up For Love
7) Voodoo Lady
8) Wings
9) Shit Towne
10) I Walk The Line [Johnny Cash]
11) Iris
12) The Dolphin's Cry
13) Heaven

ENCORE
14) Sofia
15) Lakini's Juice
16) I Alone
17) Lightning Crashes
18) Operation Spirit
19) Dance With You

The statement from one of the people at the concert was that Collective Soul was great since they were playing songs that everyone knew, and that when Live went on a stretch of what seemed like 8 songs that people weren't familiar with the place started to clear out . I'm sorry, but Voodoo Lady, Wings, Sofia, Iris, Mirror Song, and I Walk The Line have to go. As a diehard Live fan, I don't even care for these songs. I can see why people who don't follow every step of the band's career walk out. In addition, Dance With You is good, but they've been closing with that forever and a concert should end on something upbeat anyway. That's more of a middle of the show song so people can get up to get a beer. I'll be really disappointed if they come to Michigan with that setlist, especially since I didn't care for it last year.

Live, if you are looking, PLEASE MIX IT UP !!!!!

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: Jun 15 2007, 7:44 pm

[Heather]

This whole Live vs. CS thing is getting really, really old. The fact is in the 23 times that I have seen CS over the past three years I have seen many changes in their setlist and have been fortunate enough to get see a large variety of different songs. I could care less how long their encore is and I am hardly going to post a setlist for every show that I've seen of theirs just to prove that they did in fact used to vary their setlists quite a bit. Their current show isn't as varied and I'm assuming that is because they are the opening act and they will be changing up their setlist soon anyway with a new cd coming out. I don't think I have been "righteously defending" CS at all, just trying to have people give them a chance because I think they're a good band. I am just as critical of them as I am with Live. Besides, I'm not the one comparing them to Live every five minutes. In fact I have been talking up Live all over the CS board since this tour was announced trying to convince CS fans of what a great live band they are and how they should all give them a chance. I have also tried to be nice and objective and helpful with the info that I have come up with over the past couple of months regarding tour info, etc. I still think it's a shame that people can't just enjoy these shows without ragging on each other's bands. I actually haven't even seen CS in over a year. And anyway Nick, if you want to insult my favorite artist, pick on Ryan Adams, he outranks CS for me these days and I think you'll be hard pressed to find any thing wrong with his setlists considering he plays a completely different one every night.


As for my giving up on Live because I was bored with their show. I really don't see what is wrong with that. Why should I keep shelling out the money to see a band that I have become bored with? Why is it so hard to believe that you can become bored with them to the point of wanting to take a break from their shows? It's not just the setlist either, it's the fact that the last show I saw was just uninspired and lame, in my opinion. I know other people who were even bigger fans than me that quit going to shows long before I did. For some reason after having seen CS only three less times than I have seen Live in half the amount of time I am still not bored with them. If I do become bored with them I'll stop going to see their shows as well. I guess I just don't see the reason to keep seeing a band when I'm just not that into them anymore. I don't quite understand how that makes me pathetic, but whatever.

And Nick, for your information my going to see Live again has little to do with the fact that CS is playing with them. I would have been at that recent Chameleon show in a heartbeat if I wasn't seven months pregnant at the time and unable to stand on my feet for more than a half hour at a time. I'm still really bummed that I missed that show.

Anyway, I'm done. I guess I can't have an opinion on this board without having to defend every other band that I have ever seen live in my entire life. It's pretty frustrating and annoying. I mean lord knows Live is the greatest band ever and they can do absolutely no wrong. All bands should strive to be just like them.

This post has been edited by Heather: Jun 23 2007, 12:06 am

[LiveRoCkS77]

This whole Live vs. CS thing is getting really, really old. The fact is in the 23 times that I have seen CS over the past three years I have seen many changes in their setlist and have been fortunate enough to get see a large variety of different songs. I could care less how long their encore is and I am hardly going to post a setlist for every show that I've seen of theirs just to prove that they did in fact used to vary their setlists quite a bit. Their current show isn't as varied and I'm assuming that is because they are the opening act and they will be changing up their setlist soon anyway with a new cd coming out. I don't think I have been "righteously defending" CS at all, just trying to have people give them a chance because I think they're a good band. I am just as critical of them as I am with Live. Besides, I'm not the one comparing them to Live every five minutes. In fact I have been talking up Live all over the CS board since this tour was announced trying to convince CS fans of what a great live band they are and how they should all give them a chance. I have also tried to be nice and objective and helpful with the info that I have come up with over the past couple of months regarding tour info, etc. I still think it's a shame that people can't just enjoy these shows without ragging on each other's bands. I actually haven't even seen CS in over a year. And anyway Nick, if you want to insult my favorite artist, pick on Ryan Adams, he outranks CS for me these days and I think you'll be hard pressed to find any thing wrong with his setlists considering he plays a completely different one every night.
As for my giving up on Live because I was bored with their show. I really don't see what is wrong with that. Why should I keep shelling out the money to see a band that I have become bored with? Why is it so hard to believe that you can become bored with them to the point of wanting to take a break from their shows? It's not just the setlist either, it's the fact that the last show I saw was just uninspired and lame, in my opinion. I know other people who were even bigger fans than me that quit going to shows long before I did. For some reason after having seen CS only three less times than I have seen Live in half the amount of time I am still not bored with them. If I do become bored with them I'll stop going to see their shows as well. I guess I just don't see the reason to keep seeing a band when I'm just not that into them anymore. I don't quite understand how that makes me pathetic, but whatever.

And Nick, for your information my going to see Live again has little to do with the fact that CS is playing with them. I would have been at that recent Chameleon show in a heartbeat if I wasn't seven months pregnant at the time and unable to stand on my feet for more than a half hour at a time. I'm still really bummed that I missed that show.

Anyway, I'm done. I guess I can't have an opinion on this board without having to defend every other band that I have ever seen live in my entire life. It's pretty frustrating and annoying. I mean lord knows Live is the greatest band ever and they can do absolutely no wrong. All bands should strive to be just like them.

Yeah, I would think that if you're "bored" of them and "just not into them" anymore, that you'd quit wasting your time posting on their fansite. Go elsewhere and complain of how bored you are with their setlist, of how you're tired of shelling out your money to see them. You have no reason to be here really it seems.

I see that probably 18 months ago or so, how you and the other copper whatever you were, would post over at friendsoflive. You and a bunch of other posters would post your little girlish giddy posts about Ed and how much you loved him. How hot you were for the band and you'd go on and on and on with that type of nonsense..

Funny how people tire of things so quickly when they are fanatical huh? A few bad shows and an uninspired setlist and all of a sudden, you're just not into them anymore? Well, excuse me for being a REAL fan and objecting to that about face. That's what I find pathetic since you asked. Being in heat one minute and bahhh, I'm done the next. I feel sorry for your husband if you treat all aspects of your life that way, he should make sure he changes things up before you bore of him and leave.

Which is what you should do here. You obviously have no more reason to post, so go away.

You've taken your baseless parting shot, so get on with it, spare the argument, and leave. The true fans who can accept the good with the bad don't need people like you here. Sure Live can do wrong, lots of it. I'm just not gonna get all hissy like a twinkie eatin' fat chick when the store is outta ding dongs when they do. I'll stick by them thanks. Not because they are the greatest band ever, but because their music changed my life. I admire and respect them and will be grateful for a very long time.

So again, off with you.