What's Up With The Setlist??? Options

[Hoodstock]

I absolutely love Live, but the setlist has to change . I just checked what they played on June 10th this year with Collective Soul. It's almost the exact same setlist as last year . It was:

1) Mystery
2) All Over You
3) Selling The Drama
4) The River
5) Mirror Song
6) They Stood Up For Love
7) Voodoo Lady
8) Wings
9) Shit Towne
10) I Walk The Line [Johnny Cash]
11) Iris
12) The Dolphin's Cry
13) Heaven

ENCORE
14) Sofia
15) Lakini's Juice
16) I Alone
17) Lightning Crashes
18) Operation Spirit
19) Dance With You

The statement from one of the people at the concert was that Collective Soul was great since they were playing songs that everyone knew, and that when Live went on a stretch of what seemed like 8 songs that people weren't familiar with the place started to clear out . I'm sorry, but Voodoo Lady, Wings, Sofia, Iris, Mirror Song, and I Walk The Line have to go. As a diehard Live fan, I don't even care for these songs. I can see why people who don't follow every step of the band's career walk out. In addition, Dance With You is good, but they've been closing with that forever and a concert should end on something upbeat anyway. That's more of a middle of the show song so people can get up to get a beer. I'll be really disappointed if they come to Michigan with that setlist, especially since I didn't care for it last year.

Live, if you are looking, PLEASE MIX IT UP !!!!!

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: Jun 15 2007, 7:44 pm

[Heather]

But wouldn't it be better to see one show with a really amazing setlist than to see ten shows that are exactly the same? Seriously, don't you people get bored with seeing the same show over and over again? I know I did that's why I haven't been to a show in over a year. I am planning on seeing them again soon but I doubt I'll be impressed with the setlist. It would seem to me that if they catered to the hardcore fans from the get go they would still have a really strong fanbase and they would still be able to sell a ton of tickets based on the fact that they do mix up their setlists. At this point I think it's way too late for that to happen. So I guess we're stuck with the hits setlist.

[SJN1279]

But wouldn't it be better to see one show with a really amazing setlist than to see ten shows that are exactly the same? Seriously, don't you people get bored with seeing the same show over and over again? I know I did that's why I haven't been to a show in over a year. I am planning on seeing them again soon but I doubt I'll be impressed with the setlist. It would seem to me that if they catered to the hardcore fans from the get go they would still have a really strong fanbase and they would still be able to sell a ton of tickets based on the fact that they do mix up their setlists. At this point I think it's way too late for that to happen. So I guess we're stuck with the hits setlist.

Heather,

Did you to complain about not hearing Iris or Rattlesnake in concert? Now they usually play both. When was the last time you saw a Live show anyway? Not sound harsh, just curious.

[Heather]

Heather,

Did you to complain about not hearing Iris or Rattlesnake in concert? Now they usually play both. When was the last time you saw a Live show anyway? Not sound harsh, just curious.

I don't remember the date of the last Live show I saw. I know it was in Baltimore and it was well over a year ago. The reason I was unhappy with the setlist at that show was because they had just done a tour of Australia where they played a lot of songs that I never get a chance to hear live, like Walk the Line (which I know is now back in the set) and We Deal In Dreams (which is a favorite of mine that I would have LOVED to have heard live). I am happy about Iris being back in the setlist since that is also a favorite of mine. Rattlesnake is a nice addition too but considering the number of times I've seen the band, adding three or four different songs over the course of two years really doesn't impress me much. It's still the same basic setlist that it always has been. I actually almost totally gave up on the band after the Strand show in York. I was so pissed that that "special" show was the exact same show I had seen almost twenty times already. I did go to several shows after that one though before I finally decided it wasn't worth my money and that the shows were just starting to bore me. I paid $50 for that ticket to that Baltimore show and decided my money would be better spent elsewhere in the future.


All of that being said, I am giving them another chance which I never even thought I would ever do. I guess we'll see how it goes.

This post has been edited by Heather: Jun 22 2007, 2:11 pm

[SJN1279]

I don't remember the date of the last Live show I saw. I know it was in Baltimore and it was well over a year ago. The reason I was unhappy with the setlist at that show was because they had just done a tour of Australia where they played a lot of songs that I never get a chance to hear live, like Walk the Line (which I know is now back in the set) and We Deal In Dreams (which is a favorite of mine that I would have LOVED to have heard live). I am happy about Iris being back in the setlist since that is also a favorite of mine. Rattlesnake is a nice addition too but considering the number of times I've seen the band, adding three or four different songs over the course of two years really doesn't impress me much. It's still the same basic setlist that it always has been. I actually almost totally gave up on the band after the Strand show in York. I was so pissed that that "special" show was the exact same show I had seen almost twenty times already. I did go to several shows after that one though before I finally decided it wasn't worth my money and that the shows were just starting to bore me. I paid $50 for that ticket to that Baltimore show and decided my money would be better spent elsewhere in the future.
All of that being said, I am giving them another chance which I never even thought I would ever do. I guess we'll see how it goes.

I think your being a bit too critical on the band. I know that Collective Soul barely mixes up their setlist and NEVER plays more than a two song encore and they are one of your concert favs.. Live has recently added up to an 8 song encore and they have mixed up their setlist more than they ever did before. When you were a huge fan of Live, I know they played the same set everynight and rarely played a show over 90 minutes. That is just no longer the case.

2 years ago if you mentioned that Live would be playing the sets they were playing now, everyone would be happy as heck. Now people seem to be complaining just for the sake of doing so. Live isn't perfect, but they've worked hard at improving their stage show. They deserve credit for that.

[chook]

I think your being a bit too critical on the band. I know that Collective Soul barely mixes up their setlist and NEVER plays more than a two song encore and they are one of your concert favs.. Live has recently added up to an 8 song encore and they have mixed up their setlist more than they ever did before. When you were a huge fan of Live, I know they played the same set everynight and rarely played a show over 90 minutes. That is just no longer the case.

2 years ago if you mentioned that Live would be playing the sets they were playing now, everyone would be happy as heck. Now people seem to be complaining just for the sake of doing so. Live isn't perfect, but they've worked hard at improving their stage show. They deserve credit for that.

nick...seriously...why is it that you always single out heather when it comes to discussions about Live. you always have to try and prove why Live is better than Collective Soul in your posts. heather didn't even mention them in the post you quoted but again you had to bring them up. they are one of her favorite bands...accept it and move on with your life. i know heather and i know that you're not going to change her mind just by saying the same thing over and over about Live changing their setlist and playing a longer encore and blah blah blah.

also, you didn't bother quoting the part where she said she's giving Live another chance, which makes it seem like she's just being negative about the whole issue. if you want to "argue" with people who are not into Live as much as they used to be or who may say negative things about the band, there are plenty of other people on this board to choose from.

i know that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, but i just had to say that.

[chazeye]

Jesus. Just got caught up on this thread, and lots of opinions flying around. At the end of the day, I'm down with Pokey's comments on this. This thread should be required reading for the band and their management.

The River IS terrible by the way. Awful.