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What do you think has been the band's most embarrassing moment?
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"Runaway" duet with Shelby Lynne [ 8 ] ** [9.88%]
appearance on American Idol [ 18 ] ** [22.22%]
opening for Nickelback [ 32 ] ** [39.51%]
the lyrics/content on "V" [ 9 ] ** [11.11%]
the lyrics/content on "Songs from Black Mountain" [ 14 ] ** [17.28%]
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edstipe
post Feb 25 2007, 10:03 pm
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First off, I'm not trying to stir anything up here. However, I would be lieing if I didn't admit that I have been embarrassed by the band on more than one occasion -- and I assume that others have been, too, based on some of the comments on this board over the past few years. To be honest, Live has done some things that I would ridicule any other band for doing, so it's time to call them out for it.

So here it is...a poll to determine Live's weakest moment thus far. I tried to come up with the 5 that I have seen criticized most often here, although I don't necessarily agree with all of them.

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post Feb 27 2007, 12:53 pm
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I'm not sure I remember it clearly but I think he said he wrote the song a year before Sept 11th and the song was about the state the world was in at that time or something. I just remember him somehow trying to tie the whole song into the whole 9/11 tragedy. When in fact he wrote it back in the 90's about the death of his manager or something. The whole thing was just odd.


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post Feb 28 2007, 12:13 am
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QUOTE(Heather @ Feb 27 2007, 12:53 pm) *

I'm not sure I remember it clearly but I think he said he wrote the song a year before Sept 11th and the song was about the state the world was in at that time or something. I just remember him somehow trying to tie the whole song into the whole 9/11 tragedy. When in fact he wrote it back in the 90's about the death of his manager or something. The whole thing was just odd.


Wasn't it one of the rescue workers who took footage and used Overcome because the lyrics worked so well? I remember Ed saying he and Erin were in bed watching the coverage and it just came on. Basically, it was used without their permission at first.. isn't that right? eh.gif


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QUOTE(Kymra @ Feb 28 2007, 2:13 pm) *

Basically, it was used without their permission at first.. isn't that right? eh.gif

Yep, that's right. Here's an article that discusses how the video came about. And take a look at this video of Ed walking around New York after the attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi6yudu713o

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Overcome by emotion

Nov 1, 2001 12:00 PM, By Cody Holt

After two hours of sleep, Steve Rosenbaum awoke wondering if he had dreamed the previous day's events. It was Wednesday morning, September 12, and his mind raced with the incomprehensible images of buildings falling, a frantic, fleeing melee, and the surreal, overnight Gotham hours of destruction and loss.

Twenty-four hours earlier, as the morning's unimaginable events began to take shape, Rosenbaum had been thinking only of the job at hand. As president of Broadcast News Network (BNN), which makes news documentaries for cable networks like MSNBC, Rosenbaum had sent six camera crews out to tape the devastation. In the evening, he went to Ground Zero himself. But not until this moment, as he lie awake in bed, was he ever truly alone with the images. A new song from the rock band Live played on the radio. Rosenbaum got out of bed and went back to work.

In his New York City office, which is also home to BNN subsidiary CameraPlanet.com, Rosenbaum watched the previous day's events unfold again. This time, he saw the scenes as documented by the six CameraPlanet crews, each one of which had taped with a Sony VX2000 from 10:15 a.m. September 11 until 3 a.m. September 12. As he watched the images, he remembered the song from the radio. “Overcome,” it was called, seemed to have been written for this moment in history. He went to his computer to download the song.

“I started listening to the words of the song while watching the images and suddenly I just broke down,” Rosenbaum recalls. “I'd been trying to understand how I felt about the events at the World Trade Center. I wasn't scared, or terrified, or angry, or any of the other words the media was using. I was overcome, just like the song says.”

Convinced that the song was the appropriate musical backdrop for his crews' images, Rosenbaum went down the hall to ask his wife, an editor at the company, to spend an hour on a rough cut. “I was completely blown away by how somber and almost cathartic the images were against the soundtrack,” Rosenbaum says of his wife's edit. By the end of the day, he had a final version, which was cut in Final Cut Pro, dumped to DV, and output to Digital Betacam.

The next morning, Rosenbaum cold-called VH1, the cable music network, and within an hour the video was on the air. With its grim, desolate images of the overnight Ground Zero rescue efforts and the hauntingly prescient lyrics of Live's lead singer, Ed Kowalczyk, the video immediately went into heavy rotation.

On Friday, three days after the WTC attacks, Rosenbaum got a call from Chris Harden, the band's manager. “I was thinking, ‘Oh great, we're in trouble now,’” says Rosenbaum, who didn't get permission to use the song. “But he said, ‘We only have one thing to say to you: Thank you.’”

The band was so impressed with the concept that it decided to shoot another version of the video, this one with studio shots of Kowalczyk against a backdrop of CameraPlanet's images. Exactly one week after the attacks, director Mary Lambert filmed the singer under an artificial waterfall in a Los Angeles studio. But when Harden asked Rosebaum to send him CameraPlanet's rescue footage, Rosenbaum balked.

“I told him ‘no,’” Rosenbaum says. “I just felt like whatever they did needed to be honest. And I told him if Ed [Kowalczyk] wanted to get involved, he should come to New York.” Amazingly, he did.

The very next night, Kowalczyk, Rosenbaum, and his wife spent four hours walking around the southern tip of Manhattan, in and around Ground Zero. As the group stood near the West Side Highway, staring at the void in the skyline once dominated by the Twin Towers, Rosenbaum asked Kowalczyk to sing “Overcome.” Once again, Kowalczyk agreed. Rosenbaum's wife captured the moment on a VX2000, and the band's video was born.

http://digitalcontentproducer.com/mag/vide...ercome_emotion/

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edstipe   What is the most embarrassing thing Live has ever done?   Feb 25 2007, 10:03 pm
edstipe   My vote was an easy one...opening for Nickelback. ...   Feb 25 2007, 10:11 pm
SinfulEyes   My vote was an easy one...opening for Nickelback....   Feb 25 2007, 10:20 pm
Senghe   My vote was an easy one...opening for Nickelback....   Feb 26 2007, 7:39 am
Pokey   "Think of gentle Jesus" *vomits*. Thi...   Feb 26 2007, 7:46 am
Edismyhero   That original video of Overcome with Ed looking l...   Feb 27 2007, 6:06 pm
edstipe   If I had to pick one I think it would be Nickelba...   Feb 27 2007, 6:12 pm
Edismyhero   You have got to be fucking kidding me. :bomb: I...   Feb 27 2007, 6:31 pm
Hoodstock   I'm sorry, but lyrics for "Songs from Bla...   Feb 25 2007, 10:27 pm
edstipe   I'm sorry, but lyrics for "Songs from Bl...   Feb 25 2007, 10:32 pm
tangled   You know what? i would have been perfectly fine g...   Feb 26 2007, 12:50 am
EvilOne   You know what? i would have been perfectly fine ...   Mar 29 2007, 9:01 am
Pokey   SFBM is the one I'm voting for. I mean think a...   Feb 26 2007, 2:30 am
Kymra   V............. 'nuff said :no:   Feb 26 2007, 2:53 am
brandedwendy   ow...close finish between the opening for nickelba...   Feb 26 2007, 3:21 am
Pain   I haven’t réally been embarrassed by Live yet, so ...   Feb 26 2007, 4:02 am
Heather   Well that was a really tough poll. All of those th...   Feb 26 2007, 8:55 am
alexou   For me the most embarrassing moment is not on the ...   Feb 26 2007, 10:08 am
Heather   For me the most embarrassing moment is not on the...   Feb 26 2007, 10:12 am
SecretInsomnia   For me the most embarrassing moment is not on the...   Feb 27 2007, 12:43 pm
seriakiLLa   Wow, I didn't know about that. Tsk, tsk.. An...   Feb 26 2007, 11:44 am
xkiersten   Opening for Nickelback. Blech   Feb 26 2007, 1:39 pm
Elise   Got to go with Nickelback. They are the worst ban...   Feb 26 2007, 2:33 pm
seriakiLLa   I don't want to judge them, but they could...   Feb 26 2007, 3:33 pm
SJN1279   I didn't have a problem with any of the above ...   Feb 26 2007, 4:09 pm
Eickelman0767   I didn't have a problem with any of the above...   Mar 2 2007, 8:00 pm
Existentialist   My sentiments exactly. I agree 100 %. IMO I thi...   Mar 29 2007, 12:51 am
burd   No question - Nickelback. That burst of time make...   Feb 26 2007, 6:55 pm
zmanpga   Nickelback SUCKS!! and I know some of the...   Feb 26 2007, 8:05 pm
DesertWater   Nickelback for sure. Run Away is my runner up. I...   Feb 26 2007, 8:20 pm
Lively Chick   I voted SFBM too. V~ I can flag as an experiment. ...   Feb 26 2007, 8:59 pm
FishOutaWater   They shouldn't have opened for Nickelback base...   Feb 27 2007, 9:20 am
Jennyfoo   I have to say SFBM. That cd is so lame, I can...   Feb 27 2007, 12:20 pm
Merica   I don't think I'll be voting for any of th...   Feb 27 2007, 12:29 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   I was going with the Nickelback, but is that so em...   Feb 27 2007, 12:30 pm
slainte   i happened to catch nickelback here friday nite an...   Feb 27 2007, 12:33 pm
Heather   the most emabarrassing~sp? moment for me is SFBM....   Feb 27 2007, 12:41 pm
EvilOne   AH the nickleback tour, thankfully it was only in...   Jul 10 2012, 1:11 pm
Heather   Wasn't it one of the rescue workers who took ...   Feb 28 2007, 8:26 am
Senghe   ^ No need to be decently nice when we're talki...   Feb 27 2007, 6:57 pm
Heather   ^ No need to be decently nice when we're talk...   Feb 27 2007, 7:09 pm
dramaqueen   Nickelback, no question. I'm probably one of ...   Feb 27 2007, 11:59 pm
dabutcher   I'm not going to Vote because what I would pic...   Mar 28 2007, 11:51 pm
Senghe   What I'm most dissapointed in Live in is for ...   Mar 29 2007, 5:13 am
Trathena   My first post, and it's in the embarrassment t...   Apr 6 2007, 5:06 pm
WaiterAtCliftons   Opening up for the ultimate shitty band has to be ...   Apr 2 2007, 9:24 pm
beau99   None of those are embarassing. I like V and SFBM ...   Apr 3 2007, 5:10 pm
lynn32701   I'm just getting into the post-mode too but I ...   Apr 9 2007, 6:40 pm
jayda   I'm confused how this got bumped to the top - ...   Jun 24 2012, 7:12 am
Aitkens   Never saw this thread, but my vote for be for ...   Jun 24 2012, 4:11 pm
mfitz804   I rather like the Shelby Lynne duet of Run Away. ...   Jun 24 2012, 4:22 pm
Badman   I think ed's nude photo shoot was probably the...   Jun 24 2012, 4:33 pm
mfitz804   I think ed's nude photo shoot was probably th...   Jun 25 2012, 11:04 am
possum   I think ed's nude photo shoot was probably th...   Jun 25 2012, 10:14 pm
OutToDry   Agree with Badman, but the Shelby Lynne Runaway is...   Jun 25 2012, 1:07 pm
chazeye   I think it's a dead heat between the content o...   Jun 25 2012, 9:52 pm
Pokey   I have to say SFBM, it's an album of recorded ...   Jun 25 2012, 10:02 pm
Wambangalang   they could theoretically destroy all physical copi...   Jun 25 2012, 10:13 pm
Pokey   they could theoretically destroy all physical cop...   Jun 26 2012, 2:00 am
possum   I would also vote for the "homecoming" s...   Jun 25 2012, 10:18 pm
dangum   I think it's a dead heat between the content o...   Jun 25 2012, 11:15 pm
thatsme   If I wanted to increase my fanbase as a band, I...   Jun 26 2012, 2:41 am
Pokey   That's the thing, you can hide the fact they o...   Jun 26 2012, 8:03 am


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