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post Nov 26 2006, 3:50 pm
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In my mind, being a biased Live fan of course, I truely feel that Live should end up in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame some day. I know that some of you will say that the R&RHOF isn't worth a dime, but I still think it's a big accomplishment to get accepted victory.gif .

Despite my personal feelings, I don't think that Live will currently be considered for entry. I would like them to make it, and I was wondering what other people thought of them getting in or what they needed to do to do so.

I really think that Live needs to make some more albums with the commercial appeal of TC to be considered. Some of you will be against this, but if their songs are massively on the radio that means that people are listening to them. It would also expose the band to a new generation of fans that may have never been exposed to Live.

Because I would like to seem them inducted someday, and I would like to see their fan base rejuvinated with new and old fans alike, I hope that album 8 is not only angry but appealing to the masses. turn.gif

What are your thoughts?


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post Nov 30 2006, 12:31 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Nov 30 2006, 12:13 pm) *

Its great that you love them but I'm sure there are ton of people who would take V, BOP, or SFBM over Pearl Jams latest work.


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post Nov 30 2006, 4:23 pm
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QUOTE(slainte @ Nov 30 2006, 12:31 pm) *

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Name one good song on Riot Act besides "I Am Mine." Name one good song period on their latest effort. World Wide Suicide is extemely incoherent and the second single was atrocious. I have been a Live fan since Throwing Copper, but I came a fanatic around the time V was released. To prove the point, I've seen the band 18 times in concert since they released V and only twice beforehand.

I know a lot of people like angry/depressing music, but that isn't me. I was originally drawn to Live due to their messages of love and peace. I was also intrigued by the spiritual overtones of their music. That's what makes Live, for me, the best bands going today. If they never go hard rock again, its cool with me.


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post Nov 30 2006, 8:12 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Nov 30 2006, 1:23 pm) *

Name one good song on Riot Act besides "I Am Mine." Name one good song period on their latest effort. World Wide Suicide is extemely incoherent and the second single was atrocious. I have been a Live fan since Throwing Copper, but I came a fanatic around the time V was released. To prove the point, I've seen the band 18 times in concert since they released V and only twice beforehand.

I know a lot of people like angry/depressing music, but that isn't me. I was originally drawn to Live due to their messages of love and peace. I was also intrigued by the spiritual overtones of their music. That's what makes Live, for me, the best bands going today. If they never go hard rock again, its cool with me.


Good songs on Riot Act besides "I am Mine": "Can't Keep," "Save You," "Love Boat Captain," "Thumbing My Way," "All or None:

Good songs on self-titled: All of them. It is a fucking brilliant album. Listen to it. "Life Wasted," "Gone," the beautiful love song called "Parachutes," "Army Reserve," "Severed Hand," all of them. "Inside Job" may be the greatest Pearl Jam song ever written, and, creatively, far surpasses anything Live have ever done.

If you think seeing Live 18 times makes you any sort of expert on good music, go talk to some of the Pearl Jam fans that have seen them 20+ times on their current tour alone. (By the way, it's much more exciting to do that with a band that changes their setlist EVERY night).

It's kind of pointless to discuss Pearl Jam with someone who dismisses their music without even listening to it, but I couldn't resist responding despite those reservations. And don't even try to claim that you HAVE listened to Pearl Jam's music, because if you had you would know that not all of Pearl Jam's latest release is "angry/depressing music."

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If you think seeing Live 18 times makes you any sort of expert on good music, go talk to some of the Pearl Jam fans that have seen them 20+ times on their current tour alone. (By the way, it's much more exciting to do that with a band that changes their setlist EVERY night).




I don't think it makes me an expert on good music. I never said that at all. It just shows that I really like Live's new stuff and I'm just not saying it to be a fanboy. And its great that you like Pearl Jam, but its also okay that I think that most of their songs suck. Live has been mixing up their setlist quite a bit lately, not to the level of Pearl Jam, but more than usual. However, to me Live is the far superior concert act. You don't have to agree with my opinion, but it isn't going to change no matter what is said on a message board. The same goes with you.


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Hoodstock   Rock and Roll Hall of Fame   Nov 26 2006, 3:50 pm
beau99   They'll never even be nominated. I mean, Rush...   Nov 26 2006, 4:16 pm
Tabucky   I mean, Rush isn't in, but they deserve to be...   Nov 26 2006, 6:53 pm
edstipe   The chances of Live getting into the Hall of Fame ...   Nov 26 2006, 7:26 pm
beau99   In terms of current bands who I can see making th...   Nov 26 2006, 9:40 pm
edstipe   U2 got in in 2005. Yeah, I thought they might h...   Nov 27 2006, 12:30 am
Hoodstock   In terms of current bands who I can see making th...   Nov 29 2006, 1:24 pm
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Senghe   Well they're still huge in England, but reall...   Nov 29 2006, 10:52 pm
PearlJamminJason   i feel theres 2 bands from the past 15 years that ...   Nov 26 2006, 7:27 pm
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tswart1   Metallica   Nov 26 2006, 9:19 pm
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PearlJamminJason   I'd love to see Live get in, but it isn't...   Nov 29 2006, 1:21 pm
beau99   You're welcome. There's absolutely no way...   Nov 27 2006, 4:39 pm
Ed's Goddess   :) Never say Never!! Live Rock!...   Nov 28 2006, 2:37 am
PearlJamminJason   :) Never say Never!! Live Rock!...   Nov 29 2006, 1:25 pm
Ed's Goddess   i really hope this is a joke.i respect peoples op...   Nov 30 2006, 3:53 am
edstipe   Why is Pearl Jam supposedly so much better then L...   Nov 30 2006, 10:28 am
SJN1279   I could go on for days about this, but in brief: ...   Nov 30 2006, 12:13 pm
beau99   I think Pearl Jam's last two albums have been...   Dec 1 2006, 7:43 am
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Ed's Goddess   Never say Never!! :rockin:   Nov 29 2006, 5:29 am
edstipe   Never say Never!! :rockin: Okay, I...   Nov 29 2006, 2:34 pm
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edstipe   if green day gets in then this whole thread is po...   Nov 29 2006, 2:34 pm
Ed's Goddess   :) We all have our opinions! I have mine rega...   Nov 29 2006, 2:32 pm
Senghe   The Rock N Roll hall of fame seems very random. I ...   Nov 29 2006, 3:54 pm
slainte   i really hope this is a joke.i respect peoples op...   Nov 29 2006, 11:12 pm
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slainte   Name one good song on Riot Act besides "I Am...   Nov 30 2006, 7:57 pm
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mfitz804   Live has as good a chance of getting into the Hall...   Nov 30 2006, 10:58 pm
Hoodstock   Live has as good a chance of getting into the Hal...   Dec 4 2006, 4:10 pm
Heather   That's why they need to make some music that ...   Dec 4 2006, 4:26 pm
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