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in 1994 i heard a song and the radio that, in my mind, was one of the catchiest songs with a great back beat that i'd ever heard. my friend told me one night... "the name of that song is "selling the drama" but i don't know by who".... well, that's where it started and this is where it ends.

i've been a huge Live fan for about 12 years now, and i can't hide my feelings about this band any longer. and here's why: I am a Christian. if you are not a Christian then this band and their lyrics may not bother you, but if you are a Christian, then i don't see how they couldn't bother you. i've made excuse after excuse for Live, so that i could bring myself not to think about excatly what Ed is singing about and just enjoy the music. well, 12 years later... i can't do it any longer. i read some peoples thoughts on songs of Live's and i think a lot of people think they are singing about love between a man and a woman,..... and that is NOT what he's doin'.

i can not sit back and let some guy that cusses, drinks and i'm sure he's been drunk, and puff on doobie backstage, and anything else that is not "good"... talk about Jesus the way he does in his songs. esp. Selling the Drama, Operation Spirit, I alone, and i'm sure a bunch more cause that's all he sings about.

if anyone can tell my why i'm looking into his songs the wrong way.... please enlighten me, but if you can't, and i doubt you will...... i'm done w/ Live. and if there are any true Christians reading this... i hope you do the same.

so, before Live can be done with me.... i'm done with them.


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post Nov 17 2006, 10:35 am
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QUOTE(Wambangalang @ Nov 17 2006, 3:17 am) *

and people who believe in this pathetic notion of 'love is everything and everything is love and ladi di ladi da, because thats just an easy way out without giving yourself anything to sacrifice.

but religion, of any kind, just isnt for me


I think that believing that love is everything and everything is love and that God loves you is not easy at all!
If you do that then you meet such a lot of cynism of people who have given it up to believe in love, or never believed in love anyway (or even worse, started to believe in violence as a solution for a conflict or that the economy of the country they live in is the most important thing there is, more important than nature or other countries), that you really wonder if people really appreciate this planet and, if they believe in God, really realise what God is offering them!

Why do we destroy the most beautiful present we ever got, this world, with all the life (including ours) on and in it?
(By the way, pointing to others and blaming them and telling that everybody does it is in my opinion too easy).
If you believe in loving other people and loving this planet and all creatures on it and take it seriously, then you have a lot of things to do, and I really don't mean hugging and kissing everybody all the time, because then you are sure that everybody will get tired of you!

Things like: helping to protect plants and animals which otherwise die out, making sure that you buy apparates which not take too much electic energy and using stream which is from sources that don't damage this world even more, sticking up for, or even helping, people in difficult situations, taking action against poverty by buying Fair Trade products and have to defend yourself for that all the time because you are gonna be misunderstood.
And keeping your frustrations inside because you don't want to make the mistake to go and use violence too (thank God there is music and that I have friends who at least understand what I'm doing and why).

All I want to say is that believing in love is in my opinion not for softies, but you don't need to be holy for it.
Just ask yourself what you are doing and if you are prepared to offer your old way of life (partially) up.
And ask yourself if you can handle the comments of people that try to bring you down and try to tell you that it's insane what you are doing.
Ask if you can handle that you can't just buy everything you used to buy, because that doesn't fit with your new ideas of living your life in love (then you can't do it to buy products which are there because of child employment or products for which animals are abused or products for which workers don't get enough money to live from. If you love people and animals, then you just can't do that).
And you got to make sure that (and that's the hardest part, I think) you don't use violence, neither by mistake nor because you feel driven to it. Even if someone else does you or your family or friends wrong.
I think that that is living in love.

Is it still too easy for you and do you really don't have to sacrifice anything for it if you really want to live your life in love?

By the way: if you believed that God loves you, would you don't mind to let God down?
Don't you mind to let down someone who or a spirit that loves you?

GvB.

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gotigrz   i am no longer a fan of this band   Nov 13 2006, 9:38 am
beau99   From one Christian to another: You're an idi...   Nov 13 2006, 10:06 am
FishOutaWater   in 1994 i heard a song and the radio that, in my ...   Nov 13 2006, 10:09 am
gotigrz   then shouldn't the song be called "He A...   Nov 13 2006, 10:41 am
beau99   Yeah. FishOutaWater is correct. Hell, "Sell...   Nov 13 2006, 10:15 am
Deku   With respect, it's your problem and not Live...   Nov 13 2006, 10:33 am
beau99   No, you're just looking into things way too de...   Nov 13 2006, 10:51 am
gotigrz   No, you're just looking into things way too d...   Nov 13 2006, 11:33 am
lien   ...and another one of these threads... :vomit: ...   Nov 13 2006, 11:11 am
Live inside   in 1994 i heard a song and the radio that, in my ...   Nov 13 2006, 11:39 am
gotigrz   hey, i'm not trying to piss people off. i...   Nov 13 2006, 11:58 am
crustyclown80   If you cannot admit you might possibly be wrong ...   Nov 13 2006, 12:05 pm
crustyclown80   If you cannot admit you might possibly be wrong ...   Nov 13 2006, 12:15 pm
GvB   The first thing I thought was: oh no, not such a t...   Nov 13 2006, 2:01 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   ? And in the interview on the dvd of SFBM Ed GvB...   Nov 14 2006, 4:46 am
Leigh   WHAT DVD :omg: Some countries didn't get the...   Nov 14 2006, 7:03 am
aLIVEinNORWAY   Some countries didn't get the Dual Disc Leig...   Nov 14 2006, 8:30 am
GvB   WHAT DVD :omg: aLIVEinNORWAY: sorry, I mean the...   Nov 14 2006, 8:47 am
aLIVEinNORWAY   aLIVEinNORWAY: sorry, I mean the dvd side of the ...   Nov 15 2006, 4:14 am
crustyclown80   And this is why, among other religious sects, Chri...   Nov 13 2006, 12:03 pm
Senghe   If you were a REAL christian, you'd just forgi...   Nov 13 2006, 12:12 pm
flyersfan62379   Man, I'm glad I'm not religious one bit. ...   Nov 13 2006, 12:26 pm
FishOutaWater   how are both of those statements possible? It...   Nov 13 2006, 1:00 pm
gotigrz   you're right. why? why do you think Jes...   Nov 13 2006, 1:35 pm
beau99   "the greatest of teachers (Jesus) will leav...   Nov 13 2006, 1:46 pm
gotigrz   well, in my defense.... i believe that Jesus is ...   Nov 13 2006, 1:51 pm
gotigrz   "from the mouth of a baby will come the world...   Nov 13 2006, 1:47 pm
torcatofan   "from the mouth of a baby will come the worl...   Nov 13 2006, 1:57 pm
gotigrz   see, that's just it. i take my relationship...   Nov 13 2006, 2:31 pm
tswart1   but, when he starts telling people to think of t...   Nov 13 2006, 5:17 pm
Senghe   Well then you lose. Go find a new band. Maybe ...   Nov 13 2006, 7:02 pm
GvB   he clearly states "to Christ: a cross and t...   Nov 14 2006, 10:08 am
FishOutaWater   "from the mouth of a baby will come the worl...   Nov 13 2006, 2:12 pm
Senghe   "from the mouth of a baby will come the worl...   Nov 13 2006, 2:21 pm
FishOutaWater   Firstly you've totally misinterpreted Operati...   Nov 13 2006, 2:32 pm
gotigrz   i agree, i never thought it was about a man and ...   Nov 13 2006, 2:46 pm
Tabucky   Okay. Gotigrz, you're a fucking idiot. Let m...   Nov 13 2006, 5:35 pm
FishOutaWater   Thanks for the shout out about the meanings of ...   Nov 13 2006, 5:44 pm
Tabucky   Thanks for the shout out about the meanings of so...   Nov 13 2006, 5:47 pm
GvB   "I am in NYC today. I visited St. Patrick’s...   Nov 14 2006, 4:28 pm
FishOutaWater   Ah, man, thank you, I have gotten so many nice sho...   Nov 14 2006, 5:51 pm
Tabucky   Ah, man, thank you, I have gotten so many nice sh...   Nov 14 2006, 5:55 pm
jaybb   i can not sit back and let some guy that cusses, ...   Nov 13 2006, 1:16 pm
FishOutaWater   Great post.   Nov 13 2006, 1:30 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   "I am no longer a fan of this band" Wel...   Nov 13 2006, 1:39 pm
beau99   If it makes you feel better, in concert Ed changes...   Nov 13 2006, 1:51 pm
gotigrz   no, that doesn't make me feel better. that,...   Nov 13 2006, 3:58 pm
crustyclown80   Everyone should know by now bringing God into a di...   Nov 13 2006, 4:38 pm
beau99   Well I personally don't care what Ed writes ab...   Nov 13 2006, 1:53 pm
Wambangalang   if you were a 'true' christian you would a...   Nov 13 2006, 1:54 pm
Deku   Gotigrz - I assume that the 'spiritual leader...   Nov 13 2006, 2:03 pm
brandedwendy   if you're done with the band because of your b...   Nov 13 2006, 2:50 pm
Wambangalang   a-huh! In all his glory, god has taken ed...   Nov 13 2006, 2:51 pm
Wambangalang   maybe we should ask ted haggard what he thinks abo...   Nov 13 2006, 2:57 pm
jaybb   The question remains, however, that what gives the...   Nov 13 2006, 4:36 pm
gotigrz   please don't compare The Holy Bible to some ...   Nov 13 2006, 4:52 pm
beau99   i hope i didn't make anyone mad, but i real...   Nov 13 2006, 4:56 pm
HiItsNino   LOL...thats too funny. He pops in here to tell us...   Nov 13 2006, 4:57 pm
summersd619   please don't compare The Holy Bible to some b...   Nov 13 2006, 8:17 pm
HiItsNino   This is why "religion" (not to be confus...   Nov 13 2006, 4:40 pm
FishOutaWater   OK, here goes my rant. It's long, but hopeful...   Nov 13 2006, 5:26 pm
tswart1   Unfortunately because of people like him around wh...   Nov 13 2006, 5:19 pm
Hoodstock   FYI faggot - Live is a band that sings songs that ...   Nov 13 2006, 6:35 pm
Tabucky   In the end, this thread is just deja vu all over a...   Nov 13 2006, 8:06 pm
Ed's Goddess   Why do you even bother?? I appreciate the fact tha...   Nov 13 2006, 8:31 pm
Deku   Sorry Gotigrz but you really have lost this one, a...   Nov 13 2006, 9:01 pm
Wambangalang   wow. it's sad that you feel that way. God...   Nov 13 2006, 11:53 pm
Leigh   The guys have often said that they are not a chris...   Nov 14 2006, 6:59 am
lien   you're right. why? why do you think Jesus w...   Nov 14 2006, 7:30 am
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SecretInsomnia   my SFBM dvd had the making of the river, but no i...   Nov 15 2006, 6:33 am
GvB   there is a little interview behind each played so...   Nov 15 2006, 8:44 am
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