WWIII, a history lesson Options

[sandkind]

Okay, it is time for us to wake up and realize we are currently in the midst of WWIII. Visionary Hillaire Belloc foretold it in 1938, "...probable that there would be a resurrection of Islam and that our sons or our grandsons would see the renewal of that tremendous struggle between the Christian culture and what has been for more than a thousand years its greatest opponent."

In 1979, due in large part to the Carter Administration, Ayatollah Khomeini returned from exile in France and took power in Iran with 2 objectives. The preamble of the new Iranian Constitution stated that the nation's armed forces "will be responsible not only safeguarding our
borders, but also for accomplishing an ideological mission, that is Jihad for the sake of God, as well as for struggling to open the war for the sovereignty of the Word of God throughout the world." Then only six months later, Khomeini told other governments, "that Islam cannot be defeated. Islam will be victorious in all the countries of the world, and Islam and the teachings of the Koran will prevail over the world." If not a declaration of war, what is?

Thousands then came to Iran for military training, massive financial support, and political assistance.

In 1983 Hezbollah was responsible for truck bombings of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut and a U.S. Marines barracks, killing 241 Marines. In 1984, they bombed a U.S. Embassy annex killing 24 and also kidnapped and killed CIA Station Cheif William Buckley.

In a 1985 declaration Hezbollah proclaimed "We view the Iranian regime as the vanguard and a new nucleus of the leading Islamic State in the world. We abide by orders of one single and wise and just leadership, represented by 'Wali Faqih' and personified by Khomeini."

In 1993 Iran's Military Intelligence organized a meeting of extremist leaders in Tehran, planning global "Islamic revolutionary action." Iranian leadership pledged a half billion dollars for insurgency operations worldwide.

According to the 9/11 Commission, Iran and al Qaeda forged an informal accord in late 1991 or 1992 under which al-Qaeda mujahideen traveled first to Iran and then to Lebanon's Beka'a Valley to receive explosives training. Cooperation between Iran and al Qaeda has continued unabated. They are simply two arms of Iran's world Jihad. Iran has been active in Croatia, training the Bosnian army. In Latin America, Hezbollah is heavily involved in the drug trade in the Tri-border area of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay and has formed cells in Columbia and Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. Chavez has been a frequent visitor to Tehran. There is not a part of the world where Hezbollah's tentacles haven't spread, including the U.S. The point of all of this is that Iran has not only declared a Jihad - a world war against the West - but has been the principal player behind the scenes in every battle in the war, from Iraq to Lebanon and Gaza. We make a serious mistake when we fail to recognize that the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan and Lebanon are merely part of a worldwide war. We cannot prevail in any of these conflicts as long as we insist on treating them as isolated incidents. We are engaged in combat with a well financed, determined enemy with forces in every corner of the globe that
will not cease their attacks until we drive them off the face of the earth.

In Iraq, a senior member of Muqtada al-Sadr's Iraqi Shi'ite militia, the so-called Mahdi Army, gave the game away when he said the group is forming a squadron of up to 1,500 elite fighters to go to Lebanon and join forces with Hezbollah. The fact is that al-Sadr's Iraqi Shi'ite militia is
supported by Iran and is actively fomenting a civil war between the Shia and the Sunnis that could wreck U.S. hopes for a free and peaceful Iraq.

The war in Lebanon is a conflict between Israel and Iran - Hezbollah is nothing less than Iran's across-the-border armed force. With the West ignoring the nature of the Lebanon struggle with Iran's proxy, Hezbollah acting in Tehran's behalf and under Tehran's orders, is it any wonder that Israel and the rest of the Western world were shocked at the sophistication of Hezbollah's armament paid for and supplied by Tehran. This is no rag-tag bunch of thugs -this is a superbly equipped and well-trained army, and they are everywhere. Israel's attempt to defend itself by attacking the infrastructure of Lebanon and killing Lebanese civilians in the process has been used by Iran's propaganda machine to infuriate much of the Moslem world, adding millions of Moslems to those already seeking the triumph of Islam and enlisting in the war against the West.

Should Israel cease to exist, and were the U.S. to pull out of Iraq in the face of a civil war, the world war would not end. It will go on until either the West defeats it or it defeats the West

[rocknerd]

Yes, but the government of Chille does/did wrong things too.


GvB.

The Chillian Government became socialist through Democratic process. the people of Chilli Choose to become socialist society and the USA relised that they would loose control of the precious resources in chilli so they bombed the Government into next year (1969) and installed a USA controlled puppet so they could continue to exploit the Chillians. this happened on 9/11/68.

This is exactly what is happening in Venezuela and Bolivia. The US Government do not like socialist rule because then they have to actually pay for what they have been stealling in natural resources. so they try to over throw governments run by men like chevez so that they only have to pay 1% of the total cost of gas and oil.

this has been happening in South America since the signing of the so-called free trade agreement that seems to flow only one way.

and you wonder why people hate the USA.

and yes america give more in aid to the tird world then any other but they are the ones that take funding away when these countries tell their citizens about contraception and abortions.

[GvB]

The Chillian Government became socialist through Democratic process. the people of Chilli Choose to become socialist society and the USA relised that they would loose control of the precious resources in chilli so they bombed the Government into next year (1969) and installed a USA controlled puppet so they could continue to exploit the Chillians. this happened on 9/11/68.

This is exactly what is happening in Venezuela and Bolivia. The US Government do not like socialist rule because then they have to actually pay for what they have been stealling in natural resources. so they try to over throw governments run by men like chevez so that they only have to pay 1% of the total cost of gas and oil.

this has been happening in South America since the signing of the so-called free trade agreement that seems to flow only one way.

and you wonder why people hate the USA.

and yes america give more in aid to the tird world then any other but they are the ones that take funding away when these countries tell their citizens about contraception and abortions.

Good post!

But there is more wrong in the way America AND Europe tread Africa and Southern America.
For example: the big European and American countries let African and Southern American farmers work to let grow coffeebeans (for example), but the money they earn for this is so less that they can hardly live from it.
And Europe and America make it impossible (or very difficult) for these farmers and other workers to start a company for themselves and to sell their own products.

There are Fair Trade products, but that is on a very low scale and not very much people want to buy them.

Just donating money is not the way, give people equal changes!


GvB.

[Senghe]

There are Fair Trade products, but that is on a very low scale and not very much people want to buy them.

You know what, that's just like organic food and humanely produced meat. Everybody pays lip service to it when their conscience pokes them in the ass, but only a few are willing to pay the extra money it costs and everybody else just does that flouncy "oh, but what difference would it really make if little old me did it - so few other people are willing to do it". When it comes down to paying 25% more for your basket of weekly groceries or treating yourself to a few beers or a bottle of wine, your glabal social awareness suddenly deserts you.

As for foreign policy. It all started going downhill when our Cromagnon ancestors left Africa and outcompeted the Neanderthals, causing them to become extinct. So really, you can blame us modern Europeans if you like seeing as in the last 500 years or so, we managed to send all our refugees to America, all our convicts to Australia and somehow found time to rape India, Africa and several other places of it's resources and subjugate/enslave/slaughter it's indiginous peoples while we were on a roll.

Yeah, life is shit, immensly arbitrary, totally unfair and on the global scale the law of the jungle still applies. All you can do is hope you're born on the winning side. We're going to hell in a hamster ball and I'm just glad I don't have kids. Pass me a fair trade organic beer, will you.

This post has been edited by Senghe: Sep 18 2006, 5:53 pm

[sandkind]

You know what, that's just like organic food and humanely produced meat. Everybody pays lip service to it when their conscience pokes them in the ass, but only a few are willing to pay the extra money it costs and everybody else just does that flouncy "oh, but what difference would it really make if little old me did it - so few other people are willing to do it". When it comes down to paying 25% more for your basket of weekly groceries or treating yourself to a few beers or a bottle of wine, your glabal social awareness suddenly deserts you.

As for foreign policy. It all started going downhill when our Cromagnon ancestors left Africa and outcompeted the Neanderthals, causing them to become extinct. So really, you can blame us modern Europeans if you like seeing as in the last 500 years or so, we managed to send all our refugees to America, all our convicts to Australia and somehow found time to rape India, Africa and several other places of it's resources and subjugate/enslave/slaughter it's indiginous peoples while we were on a roll.

Yeah, life is shit, immensly arbitrary, totally unfair and on the global scale the law of the jungle still applies. All you can do is hope you're born on the winning side. We're going to hell in a hamster ball and I'm just glad I don't have kids. Pass me a fair trade organic beer, will you.

a realist so few and far between-good post