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post Jul 20 2006, 9:16 am
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i think LIVE has the best sound out of any band that i've ever heard. with that being said.... what is ed singing about?

he sounds like he's pro-God, but maybe not so much of a Jesus fan. but, yet on his my space account he has Jesus as a hero of his.

also, in the video of selling the drama it shows ed ripping pages out of a book that, to me, looks like the Bible.

also, in the song operation spirit, he says that Jesus doesn't mean anything to him. is he saying that's the way he "was", and he's changed, or is that just the way he is?

i'm a Christian, and i can't help but let these questions run through my head. please someone enlighten me, thanks.


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post Jul 27 2006, 9:57 am
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so that's where i got it from? hehe lol.gif


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post Jul 27 2006, 10:26 am
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aliveinnorway,

i asked someone on a different board that i thought might have a better answer for you, and this is what they said:

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Hey gotigerz, tough question huh? I think it's a depends question. In other words it depends on what the "Hard times" are caused by. God looks at things totally different than we do (His priorities are different) For instance, if by allowing someone to go through tough times, an indavidual turns to God and is saved then the tough times served there purpose, and the salvation is of course their reward. We grow through adversity, when things are going good we tend to drift away from God, but when things are going bad we seek God and are forced to rely on Him, this in term strenthens our faith, which is important to God. Now if I understand your question, we will be rewarded for our work. As Jesus said in Mat 6:19-20

19"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

I believe those treasures are given for a Christian's work. If a Christian suffers for Christ then I feel that his rewards will be great in Heavan.

Also in 1Pet it states

1 Peter 4:12-19 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

"Suffering for Being a Christian
12Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. 13But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. 14If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. 16However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. 17For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18And,
"If it is hard for the righteous to be saved,
what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?"[a]
19So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.

In conclusion, from what I read that if we go through hard times for Christ sake then yes, I feel we will have greater rewards in heaven. But just going through hard times for hard time sake? No I don't believe we will be rewarded for that. Just remember one thing though, God is a perfect judge, and he does take all things into account. Hope this helps


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QUOTE(gotigrz @ Jul 27 2006, 10:26 am) *

aliveinnorway,

i asked someone on a different board that i thought might have a better answer for you, and this is what they said:


Thank's for taking the time


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gotigrz   i have a question   Jul 20 2006, 9:16 am
ladylakini17   idk eds a confusing guy sometimes.....i know that ...   Jul 20 2006, 3:34 pm
gotigrz   i've seen the interview, and he's just as ...   Jul 20 2006, 3:48 pm
jaybb   He lists Jesus as a "hero" because if yo...   Jul 20 2006, 4:39 pm
Gertjan   I think he does not believe in -dogma driven- rele...   Jul 21 2006, 2:29 am
gotigrz   well, thanks for your replies, and i'll always...   Jul 21 2006, 7:51 am
HiItsNino   Interesting point of view, but kind of hypocritica...   Jul 21 2006, 8:32 am
gotigrz   i don't know that God will send all jews to he...   Jul 21 2006, 9:21 am
ladylakini17   well, thanks for your replies, and i'll alway...   Jul 22 2006, 2:31 am
GvB   well, thanks for your replies, and i'll alway...   Aug 4 2006, 11:49 am
gotigrz   well, if knowing God personally and believing in e...   Aug 4 2006, 3:51 pm
GvB   well, if knowing God personally and believing in ...   Aug 5 2006, 7:22 am
jonesy   There is no God.So you're both loopy   Jul 21 2006, 8:22 am
Pokey   There is no God.So you're both loopy Yeah t...   Jul 22 2006, 1:36 pm
chica   this thread is becoming one fot the off-topic zone...   Jul 21 2006, 10:45 am
gotigrz   this thread is becoming one fot the off-topic zon...   Jul 21 2006, 12:31 pm
crustyclown80   it would be so great if live went back to writing ...   Jul 21 2006, 12:35 pm
gotigrz   it would be so great if live went back to writing...   Jul 21 2006, 12:54 pm
sherocker   but when you hear the same "message" i...   Jul 21 2006, 1:03 pm
gotigrz   I think u analyze the lyrics to much my friend ...   Jul 21 2006, 1:14 pm
HiItsNino   Well, I think you provided some great food for tho...   Jul 21 2006, 1:28 pm
gotigrz   Well, I think you provided some great food for th...   Jul 21 2006, 2:24 pm
ladylakini17   I think u analyze the lyrics to much my friend ...   Jul 21 2006, 2:56 pm
gotigrz   agreed!...and i really dont think u should di...   Jul 21 2006, 3:07 pm
sellingthdrama   It always amazes me how varying the opinions are a...   Jul 21 2006, 1:01 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   A question for you gotigrz, that have kept me wond...   Jul 21 2006, 2:35 pm
gotigrz   A question for you gotigrz, that have kept me won...   Jul 21 2006, 2:54 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   that is a good question, and like a said... i...   Jul 21 2006, 3:04 pm
brandedwendy   I agree on the overanalyzing... seriously...if yo...   Jul 21 2006, 3:31 pm
gotigrz   i agree, i step on a lot of toes w/ the analyzing ...   Jul 21 2006, 3:36 pm
HiItsNino   "as far as me not having respect for someone ...   Jul 21 2006, 4:09 pm
Lis   If you look at the major religions in this world, ...   Jul 22 2006, 12:35 am
sandkind   i personally could care less about ed's lyrics...   Jul 22 2006, 9:48 pm
aLIVEinNORWAY   . whatever, i like his voice and live's musi...   Jul 23 2006, 2:15 am
sherocker   i thought it was ko-wal-check :)   Jul 23 2006, 3:57 pm
gotigrz   don't get me wrong..... i never said that m...   Jul 24 2006, 8:14 am
Live inside   [color=#cc33cc]i thought it was ko-wal-check :) ...   Jul 24 2006, 2:16 pm


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