i have a question Options

[gotigrz]

i think LIVE has the best sound out of any band that i've ever heard. with that being said.... what is ed singing about?

he sounds like he's pro-God, but maybe not so much of a Jesus fan. but, yet on his my space account he has Jesus as a hero of his.

also, in the video of selling the drama it shows ed ripping pages out of a book that, to me, looks like the Bible.

also, in the song operation spirit, he says that Jesus doesn't mean anything to him. is he saying that's the way he "was", and he's changed, or is that just the way he is?

i'm a Christian, and i can't help but let these questions run through my head. please someone enlighten me, thanks.

[Gertjan]

I think he does not believe in -dogma driven- relegion, really. He also lists Gautama Buddha, Bodhidharma and Padmasambhava under Hero's, all founders of (some form of) Buddhism.

The thing that seems to fit him these days is integralism, which is more of a philosophy and psychology than religion. He appears to be good friends with Ken Wilber, the founder of the Integral Institute and prominent integral thinker.

This post has been edited by Gertjan: Jul 21 2006, 2:31 am

[gotigrz]

well, thanks for your replies, and i'll always be a fan of LIVE's music, but i'm no longer a fan of ed kowalczyk....... just his music. i had a pretty good idea that he wasn't singing about anything that i believe in, or at least not in the same way that i do.

oh well, i'll continue to listen and sing to his songs, but when i sing them i think about Jesus and God as one. i guess that's why i usually either skip or turn down certain parts of Love Shines and Operation Spirit.

honestly, i believe when he sings about God (when does he not), that he's singing about the same God that i believe in... because there is only one God. i guess i look at him (ed) as i look at Jew's. i know they believe in the same God as i do, but they dont' proclaim Jesus Christ as the Son of God, which i know he is. but, i don't hate jews.

besides, i'm not gonna sit back and believe that someone that proclaims that Jesus is equal to budha and visa versa when he (ed) uses the Lords name in vein (everytime i see your face). i don't have much respect for someone that does that.

my opinion of LIVE.... ROCK ON!!!!! my opinion of ed..... whatever.

This post has been edited by gotigrz: Jul 21 2006, 8:07 am

[HiItsNino]

Interesting point of view, but kind of hypocritical and backward. If your God is the same God as the jews then why would god send them to burn in hell for all of eternity just because they do not proclaim the superiority of a man who lived 2000 years ago, one that we living today really have no way of knowing if he even existed. If this Jesus that you speak of is so much better than my God (which is suposedly the same as your God) then why are we witnessing this war in Lebanon, and why is genocide occuring in Darfur? Why is Jesus against stem cell research, like the supirior Christians say he is. And, sense he is against stem cell research, then why doesn't he cure all these sick and dying people now?

I'm not trying to be a jerk and insult your beliefs, I am genuinly interested in your point of view. I am drawing a lot of assumptions from your post, but I'm curious how your beliefs square with the realities of the world we live in. Personally, I refuse to acknowlege myself as a Christian, instead I say that I follow the teachings of Christ, because that all I have right here in the 21st Century. Remember that Paul was killed by his followers because Christ never returned as he promised to them. Maybe Christ means it quite literally when he says the kingdom of heaven is right in front of you.

[gotigrz]

i don't know that God will send all jews to hell. God is mercyful. if He wasn't.. we'd all be doomed. I'm not saying that Jesus is better than your God. I honestly believe that everyone that refers to "their" God is the same God. I believe that God came to us through Jesus.

then why are we witnessing this war in Lebanon, and why is genocide occuring in Darfur? Why is Jesus against stem cell research, like the supirior Christians say he is. And, sense he is against stem cell research, then why doesn't he cure all these sick and dying people now?

wars are gonna happen... it says so in the bible. the bible isn't full of happy people all do good things with no evil. it's the real world just like today only a long long time ago. as for Jesus against stem cell reasearch.... whatever. i never read that in the bible. (though, i'm only in Acts right now, so ...... ) why doesn't he cure all the sick now? that's life. one can be the prototypical Christian and still die of a sickness. you just have to have faith in the fact that God knows each and everyone of us better than we know ourselves and is in full control of what is going on and will let things happen as he sees fit.

"I am drawing a lot of assumptions from your post, but I'm curious how your beliefs square with the realities of the world we live in."

my beliefs are as relative today as they have ever been... if someone that is interested enough would read the bible and apply the teachings to their life today they'd see that everything that happens in their daily life, good or bad, is no different than the lives of people way back then.

as for the realities of the world we live in today.... well, that's just it. they are the realities that we have made. that is no excuse to dismiss religion as something that may have been relavent to the people of ancient history but not in todays world. that's insane. there is no cutoff date as to who God was talking to in the bible.... he was talking to everyone, and still is.

This post has been edited by gotigrz: Jul 21 2006, 9:33 am