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Chad Gracey and John Rotolo are starting a live weekly podcast.

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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jul 4 2024, 6:48 am) *

The rot between Ed and Taylor was always festering. 717 was a complete disaster sans the cover song. Gracey had mentioned that Taylor was not a team player in the reunion, just looking for a gravy train and negotiated in bad faith on set percentages. He basically did power of attorney like things and Ed was still bothered by the 2009 fiasco.

These songs were worked on what 9 years ago now….. scuttled for the shitty produced 717


Imo, I think Ed needs to get together with some musicians who are from his peer group and just go on a songwriting retreat or something with them somewhere. My first pick would be guys like the DeLeo brothers from STP. I don't know if they'd have time/willingness to do it and I don't know if they'd even gel together well, but that's the general idea. Maybe Emerson Hart of Tonic and Kevin Griffin of Better Than Ezra? Adam Duritz? Idk... friends/peers/people he can get into a real creative flow with.

Whatever Ed, Chad, Chad, and Pat are to each other now, you know as well as I do that the reason those first four albums were so great was because of the creative flow between those four. It wasn't about flashy Nuno Bettencourt-style guitar solos, Mike Portnoy-complicated drum solos, or Victor Wooten bass hooks. It was about great fucking songs. Even if 717 had the best production... those songs were mid at best. And Ed has far better in him than fucking mid-level songs. Where's the guy who wrote "Operation Tyranny"? Or "Top", "Iris", and "White, Discussion"?

He needs real creatives around him to bring that level of song out of him, not flash-as-fuck session musicians who, technically talented as they may be, don't like to venture too far outside of learned scales, familiar paradiddles, and simple ass time signatures. Like Master Yoda says, "you must unlearn what you have learned."

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dangum   The Gracious Two   Sep 5 2023, 7:51 pm
dangum   A recording of the podcast can be viewed on Facebo...   Sep 5 2023, 8:39 pm
dangum   Chad saved the life of his business partner on the...   Sep 6 2023, 7:55 pm
dangum   Episode 2 is now available to watch on Facebook h...   Sep 12 2023, 8:21 pm
dangum   Episode 2 is now available to watch on Facebook ...   Sep 14 2023, 2:44 am
JonSnow   This episode had a bit of Live/Chad Taylor relate...   Sep 16 2023, 10:34 pm
dangum   Who was talking shit about his mom here? Read abo...   Sep 16 2023, 11:51 pm
dangum   1pm eastern today for the next livestream https:/...   Sep 19 2023, 8:36 am
dangum   Episode 3 https://www.facebook.com/61550359508262/...   Sep 19 2023, 7:15 pm
dangum   Very little Live related content in episode 3.   Sep 19 2023, 10:40 pm
dangum   This podcast might get interesting once they start...   Sep 20 2023, 3:16 am
Srx17   This podcast might get interesting once they star...   Sep 22 2023, 12:03 am
dangum   In week two, Gracey and John did have a live pers...   Sep 22 2023, 2:41 am
CTFD40   I haven’t listened and probably won’t with the way...   Sep 22 2023, 11:10 am
JonSnow   I’m not the one stuck in an algorithm with strong...   Sep 22 2023, 3:45 pm
dangum   Now on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@TheGracio...   Oct 1 2023, 9:40 pm
dangum   Last week's episode did not proceed due to Joh...   Oct 3 2023, 7:01 pm
dangum   Listening to the podcast. Chad Gracey reiterates t...   Oct 3 2023, 8:35 pm
Bremang   Chad also says that there aren't any more so...   Oct 4 2023, 8:41 am
dangum   is he referring to Throwing Copper unreleased mate...   Oct 4 2023, 10:41 am
dangum   Good summary of episode 4 x_gs-edi8tQ   Oct 4 2023, 11:02 am
Bremang   I think he meant the full catalogue but who knows...   Oct 19 2023, 2:56 am
Bremang   cds were originally 74 minutes, and then bumped up...   Oct 4 2023, 8:40 am
dangum   Episode 5 features Joe Sciuto - who was a friend o...   Oct 11 2023, 9:40 pm
Bremang   is "putting the shit in bullshit" the du...   Oct 14 2023, 12:09 am
dangum   Episode 6 - features John Rotolo's brother Jer...   Oct 18 2023, 6:19 am
CTFD40   How many people actually make up their loyal audie...   Oct 21 2023, 1:26 pm
Deku   How many people actually make up their loyal audi...   Oct 22 2023, 5:08 am
CTFD40   I'm guessing one and he's only listening ...   Oct 23 2023, 10:25 am
dangum   I'm guessing one and he's only listening s...   Oct 25 2023, 2:53 am
717raised   Not me wondering how long it takes before they re...   Oct 26 2023, 8:03 am
dangum   Episode 8 https://www.facebook.com/61550359508262...   Nov 1 2023, 1:41 am
dangum   Episode 9 features Jimmy Lang. I haven't watch...   Nov 7 2023, 5:48 pm
dangum   Episode 9 - Jimmy Lang Very good episode. Jimmy w...   Nov 7 2023, 10:27 pm
dangum   Episode #10 jqu8rLGQsvo   Nov 14 2023, 7:32 pm
Merica   Oh aye.   Nov 15 2023, 3:59 am
dangum   Does anybody know where I can find episode 11? It ...   Nov 23 2023, 12:59 am
dangum   Does anybody know where I can find episode 11? It...   Dec 10 2023, 5:33 am
dangum   Episode 12 -Wn47ai0Pzo   Nov 28 2023, 2:57 pm
JonSnow   Chad Gracey, GoodTimes and Ken Staiduhar discusse...   Nov 29 2023, 1:11 am
dangum   Show 013 - Larry Hankin https://www.facebook.com/...   Dec 5 2023, 6:34 pm
dangum   Show 013 - Larry Hankin Finished listening to sh...   Dec 5 2023, 8:25 pm
LiveFanButLoveEd   Finished listening to show 13. Larry talks and ta...   Dec 6 2023, 2:10 pm
JonSnow   How is Rumble compared to YouTube? I've had no...   Dec 10 2023, 12:36 pm
dangum   How is Rumble compared to YouTube? I prefer to wa...   Dec 10 2023, 9:50 pm
JonSnow   I prefer to watch on YouTube. What phone are you ...   Jan 3 2024, 2:03 am
dangum   Episode 14 7MZKvZLw5N4   Dec 12 2023, 7:31 pm
dangum   Episode 15 - Steve Savo RDCiWT0DYwY   Dec 19 2023, 7:43 pm
dangum   John Rotolo and Chad Gracey appeared on "The ...   Dec 21 2023, 12:18 am
dangum   Episode 16 - Bob Zazzera. All Live related. oLpFI...   Dec 26 2023, 6:54 pm
dangum   Episode 17 - Bill Hynes kMUfrXKuqzk   Jan 2 2024, 7:43 pm
Plive   So Jimmy Lang recorded all three shows at Chameleo...   Jan 9 2024, 4:27 pm
dangum   So Jimmy Lang recorded all three shows at Chamele...   Jan 10 2024, 1:13 am
dangum   Episode 17 - Kevin Savo fJMTb-q4Yt8   Jan 9 2024, 7:28 pm
SecretInsomnia   Oh wow, this needs to happen. Release it, Jimmy :...   Jan 10 2024, 5:46 am
dangum   Episode 19 - Mike Bailey 9vbk9CDRT7E   Jan 17 2024, 5:51 am
dangum   Episode 20 - Scott Martinetti 3H7oeoeL_WM   Jan 23 2024, 6:49 pm
dangum   Chad said that the Dec 31, 1999 show was cancelled...   Jan 23 2024, 8:15 pm
dangum   The Gracious Two - show 021 - no guest 0KIU8R59qNI...   Jan 31 2024, 1:55 am
Pingfah   Ugh.   Feb 2 2024, 7:15 am
Hoodstock   Ugh. I'll second that.   Feb 7 2024, 7:32 pm
dangum   The Gracious Two have 2 strikes on YouTube, so her...   Feb 6 2024, 10:39 pm
dangum   This is a good interview. The guest talks about po...   Feb 7 2024, 7:40 am
The Gracious Two   The Gracious Two will no longer be LIVE on YouTube...   Feb 9 2024, 11:56 am
dangum   Episode 23 - Denese Longsworth https://rumble.co...   Feb 14 2024, 6:06 am
dangum   The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 024 - Cashel OReilly ...   Feb 21 2024, 8:47 am
dangum   Episode 25 - Brandon Valentine (from Central Penns...   Feb 28 2024, 6:01 am
dangum   Instagram Live show - Bill Hynes joins the stream....   Mar 13 2024, 6:20 am
Pingfah   Instagram Live show - Bill Hynes joins the stream...   Mar 14 2024, 8:09 am
The Gracious Two   Thanks for this Dangum, every time I read these s...   Mar 26 2024, 7:14 pm
dangum   Episode 29 - Dolly Skailes https://rumble.com/v4k...   Mar 20 2024, 4:57 am
dangum   Show 30 https://rumble.com/v4lmehu-the-gracious-t...   Mar 26 2024, 8:17 pm
dangum   The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 031 - Tami Erin (Pipp...   Apr 2 2024, 8:22 pm
dangum   For those who aren't listening, John and Chad ...   Apr 3 2024, 7:55 pm
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