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post Jun 14 2006, 10:57 am
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"Songs From Black Mountain" has debuted at #52 on the new Billboard 200 chart, with sales just over 18,000 copies.

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This album is just so bland. It's adult contemporary crap and will be the first Live album I don't purchase (I listened to it on my yahoo music subscription).

Do you all remember the days when Live had a political charge? Could there possibly be a more politically charged time in the world? Does this band have nothing to say anymore?

I dunno... I'm all for bands changing, but if this is going to be where Live keeps heading, then... I will just have to hold them in my memory and love their old albums and by the current album sales... it seems that many people are feeling the same.

Good luck to them.

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post Jun 17 2006, 7:25 am
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QUOTE(Damon @ Jun 16 2006, 10:11 pm) *

This album is just so bland. It's adult contemporary crap and will be the first Live album I don't purchase (I listened to it on my yahoo music subscription).

Do you all remember the days when Live had a political charge? Could there possibly be a more politically charged time in the world? Does this band have nothing to say anymore?

I dunno... I'm all for bands changing, but if this is going to be where Live keeps heading, then... I will just have to hold them in my memory and love their old albums and by the current album sales... it seems that many people are feeling the same.

Good luck to them.



<rant> It just goes to show you that everyone will have a different opinion. I'm exactly the opposite regarding the political songs. I can't stand them. I was watching my Pearl Jam Touring Band 2000 DVD last night and looked over to my wife and said, "Why can't Eddie Vedder just sing? I mean, enough of the political crap...I paid good money for your damn music! Entertain me! Who does he think he is? Bob Dylan? Joan Baez?" To me, the last two Pearl Jam CDs are pretty much unlistenable because of all the political lyrics. I listen to music as an escape. No need to try and rile me all up. I'm 36 years old. I'm not being influenced by the lyrics. Thats pretty much the reason why I love Songs From Black Mountain. The beginning of "The River"..."La La La La"....beautiful! Give me more beautiful, happy music with good hooks and snappy choruses! The whole album to me is incredible. All except "Home". Again, for the reasons I stated above. Ed has as much business talking about soldiers as I do about them. He didn't serve, I didn't serve and therefore have no authority on the subject. <endrant> smile.gif


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QUOTE(Jack4343 @ Jun 17 2006, 8:25 am) *

<rant> It just goes to show you that everyone will have a different opinion. I'm exactly the opposite regarding the political songs. I can't stand them. I was watching my Pearl Jam Touring Band 2000 DVD last night and looked over to my wife and said, "Why can't Eddie Vedder just sing? I mean, enough of the political crap...I paid good money for your damn music! Entertain me! Who does he think he is? Bob Dylan? Joan Baez?" To me, the last two Pearl Jam CDs are pretty much unlistenable because of all the political lyrics. I listen to music as an escape. No need to try and rile me all up. I'm 36 years old. I'm not being influenced by the lyrics. Thats pretty much the reason why I love Songs From Black Mountain. The beginning of "The River"..."La La La La"....beautiful! Give me more beautiful, happy music with good hooks and snappy choruses! The whole album to me is incredible. All except "Home". Again, for the reasons I stated above. Ed has as much business talking about soldiers as I do about them. He didn't serve, I didn't serve and therefore have no authority on the subject. <endrant> smile.gif



I literally can't stand idiots who say shit like that. No authority to talk on a matter because they didn't serve? WTF kind of idiotic crap is that? I haven't served the military but does that mean I'm supposed to have no feelings on it? I've never lived in a war zone but does that mean I'm not supposed to have any thoughts as to how it must be for those who do?

I can talk about whatever the fuck I wanna talk about you shitdouche and so can Ed or anybody else. Go live in Afghanistan if you think people don't have any business talking or singing about issues that are dear to them.

I've often thought the same things as Ed has mentioned. Wondering how parents must feel watching the news everyday, seeing bombs being set off by the hundreds and wondering when their kids are coming home. Looking at their grandchildren and wondering if they'll ever see or know their father. I feel for those people and I hurt for them inside too.

It's people like you who only wanna hear this happy American Idol pop shit that really bother me. Fucking zombies.

Me? I wanna hear shit from bands like System of a Down, Live and Pearl Jam who have something real and meaningful to say. Not just this "Ohh baby, I'm so lost without you" fucking sewer crap that gets sung over and over and over again by all these no mind pop artist dip shits. Fuck them all.

I want more lyrics like from BYOB by System "WHY DON'T PRESIDENTS FIGHT THE WAR, WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?".....or "YOU DEPEND ON OUR PROTECTION, YET YOU FEED US LIES FROM THE TABLECLOTH" Give me music with some badd ass bass guitar and lyrics with something to say.


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QUOTE(LiveRoCkS77 @ Jun 18 2006, 12:02 pm) *

I literally can't stand idiots who say shit like that. No authority to talk on a matter because they didn't serve? WTF kind of idiotic crap is that? I haven't served the military but does that mean I'm supposed to have no feelings on it? I've never lived in a war zone but does that mean I'm not supposed to have any thoughts as to how it must be for those who do?

I can talk about whatever the fuck I wanna talk about you shitdouche and so can Ed or anybody else. Go live in Afghanistan if you think people don't have any business talking or singing about issues that are dear to them.

I've often thought the same things as Ed has mentioned. Wondering how parents must feel watching the news everyday, seeing bombs being set off by the hundreds and wondering when their kids are coming home. Looking at their grandchildren and wondering if they'll ever see or know their father. I feel for those people and I hurt for them inside too.

It's people like you who only wanna hear this happy American Idol pop shit that really bother me. Fucking zombies.

Me? I wanna hear shit from bands like System of a Down, Live and Pearl Jam who have something real and meaningful to say. Not just this "Ohh baby, I'm so lost without you" fucking sewer crap that gets sung over and over and over again by all these no mind pop artist dip shits. Fuck them all.

I want more lyrics like from BYOB by System "WHY DON'T PRESIDENTS FIGHT THE WAR, WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?".....or "YOU DEPEND ON OUR PROTECTION, YET YOU FEED US LIES FROM THE TABLECLOTH" Give me music with some badd ass bass guitar and lyrics with something to say.


now let me express my views. ed does NOT have a fucking clue what it is to serve. I put on a uniform and have shed blood more than once for what i believe in and so OTHER U.S. citizens can have the freedom to believe what they want. you are absolutely right that people can feel, sing, and write about anything they want, but i GUARANTEE you that ed is completely and utterly wrong on what MOST of those who serve feel. i enjoy live but i don't agree with them politically and feel it is PRETENTIOUS as hell for anyone to think they have something pegged with absolutely NO experience. I will tell you something else, our president is still well respected by the majority of our military (the U.S.) unlike his predecessor. very few noticed that anytime Clinton exited AF1 his Marine guard always remained facing outward and they NEVER turned and saluted him the way they ALWAYS do Bush. i certainly don't think Bush is perfect but i do have a great deal of respect for the man. Abraham Lincoln was VERY unpopular in his day and would have NEVER won a reelection, yet history now recognizes him as the best president to ever serve this country. yeah, i'll get torched for comparing Bush to him, but anyone who has really studied TRUE history can see the similarities.

As far as you go, you obviously have no class and i could care less what your canadian ass believes in. I am a PROUD U.S. citizen, and I will NEVER, EVER be a subject or a socialist!

USA!


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QUOTE(sandkind @ Jun 18 2006, 6:00 pm) *

i certainly don't think Bush is perfect but i do have a great deal of respect for the man. Abraham Lincoln was VERY unpopular in his day and would have NEVER won a reelection, yet history now recognizes him as the best president to ever serve this country. yeah, i'll get torched for comparing Bush to him, but anyone who has really studied TRUE history can see the similarities.


I'm speechless.

Perhaps some of the military guys have respect for Bush, but nobody else does. He will go down as the worst president in US history, mark my words.

And musicians have just as much right as anyone else to spew their views. They're people, too.


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