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post Jun 3 2022, 2:45 pm
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If you missed it Ed went on Instagram basically stating that Live never was much of a band, that the reunion wasn't really a "reunion ", and that he's not in anyone's band.

Chad Gracey commented on this on Facebook:
"There is only one source of drama in LIVE. You guys figure it out. And obviously it’s not Ed."

Bill Hynes then replied to Chad "Chad Gracey and that person has small penis Napoleon narcissist syndrome." to which Chad liked with a laugh emoji.

Bill also said this on Facebook in the conversation:

"One thing is certain. Ed don’t need anyone. His talent and song writing ability is his. As it was seen before. He is irreplaceable. Others need him more than he needs them. When the band broke up the first time it was one person and only one persons fault and that person wasn’t Ed. It rhymes with Tad Chaylor."

and Bill in response to Ed's comments:

"That’s actually is NOT what he is saying. He’s saying he isn’t in someone’s band. He’s in HIS band. But someone has an ego and likes to tell everyone that he’s the band and it’s his band and take credit for songs that he didn’t write. So what ED is saying is that HE isn’t in someone else’s band."

There was also a comment about Chad being a successful insurance agent. Chad replied "I do insurance on the side with my partner George. Im also into a few other endeavors."

Quite a flurry of activity after little to no comments on the state of the band for a lengthy period of time.


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post Dec 20 2022, 10:23 am
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QUOTE(JonSnow @ Dec 19 2022, 11:30 pm) *

Not to get political, but a lot of that kind of stuff has been happening, especially in the last few years. I don't remember the exact story, but one of the members of Mumford & Sons got booted because he expressed a contrary opinion about something or whatever. It's getting a little too fucking 1984-ish lately, imo... but I'll leave it at that.


Not to get off topic for too long, but Winston Marshall wasn't kicked out of the band and he didn't leave because of one opinion. He left the band because his personal views, which were the extreme opposite of the other members, were becoming the focus of the coverage of the band. Instead of talking about the music, people were talking about his political views. He himself wrote:

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"Emotions were high. Despite pressure to nix me they invited me to continue with the band. That took courage, particularly in the age of so called “cancel culture”... For me to speak about what I’ve learnt to be such a controversial issue will inevitably bring my bandmates more trouble. My love, loyalty and accountability to them cannot permit that. I could remain and continue to self-censor but it will erode my sense of integrity. Gnaw my conscience. I’ve already felt that beginning. The only way forward for me is to leave the band. I hope in distancing myself from them I am able to speak my mind without them suffering the consequences. I leave with love in my heart and I wish those three boys nothing but the best. I have no doubt that their stars will shine long into the future. I will continue my work with Hong Kong Link Up and I look forward to new creative projects as well as speaking and writing on a variety of issues, challenging as they may be.


So it was a choice he made while taking into consideration how his personal advocacy reflected on his band and his bandmates. He wanted to be able to speak freely and he didn't want his POV to be the focus on everything that was written about the band.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify that a bit because everyone was in a tough situation and I think he did the right thing for himself and for the band he loved.


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Hoodstock   What's Going On? Is Live Over?   Jun 3 2022, 2:45 pm
Voodoo Lady   For what it’s worth, I noticed that Ed unfollowed ...   Jun 3 2022, 3:16 pm
Bremang   To quote Bremang, Bill Hynes is the Yoko Ono of...   Jun 4 2022, 2:41 am
Voodoo Lady   Did I say that? I don't recall. I don't t...   Jun 4 2022, 5:03 am
SJN1279   If you look at Ed's IG, he is no longer follow...   Jun 4 2022, 1:02 pm
Voodoo Lady   If you look at Ed's IG, he is no longer follo...   Jun 4 2022, 1:09 pm
The Thrill   For what it’s worth, I noticed that Ed unfollowed...   Jun 6 2022, 6:58 pm
Voodoo Lady   Cindy, I take it you have never listened to one L...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
The Thrill   Thank you for your best wishes. I’ve been a L...   Jun 6 2022, 7:21 pm
Voodoo Lady   Is it possible that since this is uncharted terri...   Jun 6 2022, 7:32 pm
The Thrill   A generalized hiatus statement during the height ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:42 pm
Voodoo Lady   I hear ya. Nobody is perfect. I bet all of them...   Jun 6 2022, 7:48 pm
Bremang   I along with Bob Zazerra went to and Ed solo sh...   Jun 6 2022, 8:04 pm
The Thrill   All Bob ever wanted was to be deeply involved wit...   Jun 6 2022, 8:12 pm
alexou   All Bob ever wanted was to be deeply involved wit...   Jun 6 2022, 8:12 pm
The Thrill   Wait what? too much too handle tonight... I under...   Jun 6 2022, 8:15 pm
Bremang   .   Jun 6 2022, 8:18 pm
alexou   I'm just trolling the troll about the cheatin...   Jun 6 2022, 8:25 pm
Bremang   A lot of us got fooled by CT let's be hones...   Jun 6 2022, 8:29 pm
LiveForNow   Where can I find this video or post? I don't s...   Jun 3 2022, 6:53 pm
Bremang   Chad Taylor's FOL Tour Diary @ Dec 24, 2004   Jun 4 2022, 2:43 am
OutToDry   And out your feet in the water, put your head in t...   Jun 4 2022, 1:09 pm
Voodoo Lady   First music news outlet that I’ve seen give attent...   Jun 5 2022, 11:20 am
Voodoo Lady   I am just now seeing this on FoL Facebook page. No...   Jun 5 2022, 1:27 pm
Orion0767   I am just now seeing this on FoL Facebook page. N...   Jun 6 2022, 6:27 pm
Srx17   So I guess these comments were deleted from the F...   Jun 6 2022, 6:30 pm
Srx17   More explanation today, from the FB Page: [Bill ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:32 pm
Orion0767   He was originally talking about the new remixed t...   Jun 6 2022, 7:15 pm
Bremang   More explanation today, from the FB Page: [Bil...   Jun 6 2022, 7:06 pm
Bremang   "I met many women. I shared myself like never...   Jun 5 2022, 8:13 pm
Bremang   There's now an actual Yoko out there for Live ...   Jun 5 2022, 8:15 pm
The Thrill   There's now an actual Yoko out there for Live...   Jun 6 2022, 6:40 pm
alexou   Hopefully he finds a tall building and.... Le...   Jun 6 2022, 6:50 pm
The Thrill   Let's be better than this... for the rest, e...   Jun 6 2022, 6:54 pm
Bremang   The guitarist of Live is the Yoko ono of Live. ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
The Thrill   I appreciate that you're alleging more of the...   Jun 6 2022, 7:29 pm
Orion0767   The guitarist of Live is the Yoko ono of Live. H...   Jun 6 2022, 8:22 pm
Badman   I've been following the drama on the facebook ...   Jun 6 2022, 1:03 am
Bremang   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 1:22 am
grandfalloon   Clearly Bill read my recent repost of Chad's ...   Jun 6 2022, 9:26 am
Bremang   why are you so convinced that Bill Hynes is the...   Jun 6 2022, 6:33 pm
grandfalloon   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 9:52 am
Bremang   People saying Hynes is a criminal? More like fa...   Jun 6 2022, 6:54 pm
The Thrill   Well, Bill was convicted of a felony related to c...   Jun 6 2022, 7:14 pm
Bremang   I bounced a check in 2008. It wasn't a check...   Jun 6 2022, 7:18 pm
The Thrill   Well, Bill was convicted of a felony related to c...   Jun 6 2022, 7:16 pm
Srx17   I've been following the drama on the facebook...   Jun 6 2022, 11:16 am
Voodoo Lady   I do know there's a podcast, from a bandmate,...   Jun 6 2022, 2:07 pm
Srx17   We know the podcast is going to be Bill Hynes and...   Jun 6 2022, 3:51 pm
Bremang   I do know there's a podcast, from a bandmate...   Jun 6 2022, 7:00 pm
mattyeagles   No one is looking good in this situation. It’s od...   Jun 6 2022, 7:13 am
alexou   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar f...   Jun 6 2022, 10:25 am
The Thrill   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:51 pm
alexou   Chad Taylor is a very talented musician. I won’t ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:55 pm
The Thrill   thanks for the input, the thing I always had with...   Jun 6 2022, 7:01 pm
alexou   To his defense. He always said he wasn’t a solo ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:05 pm
Bremang   I laughed at the Chad T. asked for a lead guitar ...   Jun 6 2022, 6:57 pm
alexou   fuck - TGF was literally up on spotify a couple d...   Jun 6 2022, 6:58 pm
Hoodstock   "So, Chad Taylor torpedoed Live …" I ca...   Jun 6 2022, 2:32 pm
Srx17   "So, Chad Taylor torpedoed Live …" I c...   Jun 6 2022, 3:51 pm
Badman   I had a thought recently on why we haven't hea...   Jun 6 2022, 4:56 pm
Srx17   I had a thought recently on why we haven't he...   Jun 6 2022, 6:23 pm
Orion0767   The bigger thing that makes you think, whom did h...   Jun 6 2022, 6:30 pm
The Thrill   Exactly It’s really not hard to figure out.   Jun 6 2022, 7:07 pm
LanceManion   I have been debating whether or not to put this ou...   Jun 6 2022, 7:31 pm
The Thrill   I have been debating whether or not to put this o...   Jun 6 2022, 7:32 pm
LanceManion   We have a winner. I have to say, this is not som...   Jun 6 2022, 7:34 pm
The Thrill   I have to say, this is not something I wanted to ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:36 pm
Orion0767   I have to say, this is not something I wanted to ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:39 pm
The Thrill   Same here. I just kept thinking, no way. SMH, I f...   Jun 6 2022, 7:44 pm
Orion0767   Him and his children are doing very well. That...   Jun 6 2022, 7:53 pm
Orion0767   I have been debating whether or not to put this o...   Jun 6 2022, 7:35 pm
alexou   just insane...like you stated, Gracey looked like ...   Jun 6 2022, 7:44 pm
Orion0767   [quote name='alexou' post='142955...   Jun 6 2022, 7:50 pm
Bremang   There was the lead singer bonus that everyone hear...   Jun 6 2022, 8:21 pm
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