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Interesting read

Chris Shinn on Fronting Live: ‘I’m Just Embarrassed By the Whole Thing’


https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-fe...zyk-1234621472/

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QUOTE(mattyeagles @ Nov 5 2022, 2:02 pm) *

I still can’t understand the rationale of comparing CT and Ed, I really can’t. CT has deceived every single person on the band, which is a fact, and there is nothing factual that Ed has done the same.


I'm not comparing them in any way. Just saying they both fucked other band members over. The way they did it is very different and not comparable, as far as we know. But that wasn't the point at all. If Ed really fired the other guys, which is not just a thing Chris said, from many other aspect it definitely looks like it (and of course Ed's not going to confirm or deny anything as he's a master in pretending nothing negative is happening).

Also also, I've learned that narcissists have a public and private persona and for that reason, any time anyone seems to be a manipulative narcissit, I'm off. I will never ever trust them again. Ed's been in that category for the past 12 years and now Chad is up there. Unless we're presented with cold hard objective evidence of the contrary (not just someone saying one of them's not the problem).

But given what we know, Ed and CT can't be compared and that's not what I did either.

QUOTE(Bremang @ Nov 5 2022, 6:05 pm) *

then you haven't been reading this thread or this board very closely. It's totally unacceptable that he forgets the lyrics as much as he does, many of us have been saying this for years. I don't care if he needs to read the lyrics, just don't fuck up i alone every other show.


That's a fucking ridiculous standard. Why? Why is it unacceptable? What does that do?

Also, you do realize that without the internet or the intervention of someone who litterally physically follows them on tour, you'd have never noticed right? Every artist in the world forget lyrics once in a while and that's what it would have passed for had you not watch videos of performance. In all honesty, do we know if Jimi Hendrix kept forgetting a lyrics to the same song over and over? No. But because everything is filmed now, it's a new standard? And for what reason?

But OK, let's say you're a diehard fan and you follow them on their tour. You're telling me you're unable to enjoy the frontman as a whole because he forgets some lyrics? That fucks up the whole experience for you?

And this has nothing to do with defending Chris for me, I'm waaaayyy past sticking up for anyone in this shit show. I'm just baffled at the nitpicking against him.


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QUOTE(Tips @ Nov 6 2022, 7:06 am) *


That's a fucking ridiculous standard. Why? Why is it unacceptable? What does that do?

Also, you do realize that without the internet or the intervention of someone who litterally physically follows them on tour, you'd have never noticed right? Every artist in the world forget lyrics once in a while and that's what it would have passed for had you not watch videos of performance. In all honesty, do we know if Jimi Hendrix kept forgetting a lyrics to the same song over and over? No. But because everything is filmed now, it's a new standard? And for what reason?

But OK, let's say you're a diehard fan and you follow them on their tour. You're telling me you're unable to enjoy the frontman as a whole because he forgets some lyrics? That fucks up the whole experience for you?

And this has nothing to do with defending Chris for me, I'm waaaayyy past sticking up for anyone in this shit show. I'm just baffled at the nitpicking against him.



I personally can't stand it. Many others here agree. If you're singing for the band, that's basically the highest authority for the art. Who wants to pay money to see someone fuck up, or who wants to the the music they love just get defiled like that. Sure, modern technology allows us to consume the art by watching concert footage, and it sucks to see the art get dragged through the mud multiple times. It's awkward as a fan in attendance. It's disappointing when fans are trying to see if the new guy is good enough to replace Ed.

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717raised   Chris Shinn on Fronting Live: ‘I’m Just Embarrassed...."   Nov 2 2022, 10:03 am
Pingfah   Fascinating. Chris believes Ed has permanently fir...   Nov 2 2022, 12:51 pm
717raised   Fascinating. Chris believes Ed has permanently fi...   Nov 2 2022, 1:25 pm
Hoodstock   Can anyone post the full story here?   Nov 2 2022, 2:17 pm
Voodoo Lady   This explains everything. Every question we’ve eve...   Nov 2 2022, 2:26 pm
Merica   Wow. That was an uncomfortable but fascinating rea...   Nov 2 2022, 2:46 pm
mattyeagles   Wow. That was an uncomfortable but fascinating re...   Nov 2 2022, 2:48 pm
Orion0767   Extremely interesting article. Cue the Ed haters ...   Nov 2 2022, 7:27 pm
chazeye   I agree with Orion0767 on this based on everything...   Nov 2 2022, 10:05 pm
Gertjan   Be prepared. It's a long article. Chris Shinn...   Nov 2 2022, 2:57 pm
Hoodstock   Be prepared. It's a long article. Thanks...   Nov 2 2022, 9:00 pm
Cardiff_Giant   I don't want to be the guy who makes presumpti...   Nov 2 2022, 3:17 pm
Hoodstock   I don't want to be the guy who makes presumpt...   Nov 2 2022, 9:05 pm
Bremang   The interviewer doesn't really have all the de...   Nov 2 2022, 3:34 pm
Merica   Interestingly Shinn admits to being the reason beh...   Nov 2 2022, 3:58 pm
Orion0767   The interviewer doesn't really have all the d...   Nov 2 2022, 5:54 pm
Hoodstock   This statement from tha article was interesting: ...   Nov 2 2022, 9:10 pm
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AManIsTadChaylor   The stuff about Patrick... I felt that on a person...   Nov 2 2022, 10:07 pm
LiveForNow   Here is the conclusion I've jumped to, based o...   Nov 3 2022, 1:17 am
gerrycan70   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 4:49 am
Bremang   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 5:22 am
gerrycan70   Well it is part of a series that is totally appli...   Nov 3 2022, 5:39 am
alexou   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 10:23 am
AManIsTadChaylor   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 3 2022, 11:13 am
Voodoo Lady   Maybe CT is the biggest douche ever, but maybe Ed...   Nov 3 2022, 11:37 am
mattyeagles   Are you for real? There is nothing that infuriat...   Nov 3 2022, 12:19 pm
Gruno   So what if he had lyrics on the stage? You say th...   Nov 3 2022, 12:22 pm
AManIsTadChaylor   I might have missed it in the Rolling Stone inter...   Nov 3 2022, 12:44 pm
Tips   The timing of this article is a hatchet job! ...   Nov 5 2022, 9:08 am
mattyeagles   I know how this happened. You see, after it was a...   Nov 5 2022, 2:02 pm
Bremang   Apart from you and Bill Hynes around here, I...   Nov 5 2022, 6:05 pm
Bremang   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging o...   Nov 3 2022, 5:20 am
mattyeagles   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging ...   Nov 3 2022, 6:57 am
gerrycan70   The one time I met Chris Shinn - he was hanging ...   Nov 3 2022, 7:17 am
Gertjan   I might be alone in my assessment, but if anyone ...   Nov 3 2022, 7:55 am
alexou   I don't share your view on Chris as frontman....   Nov 3 2022, 10:39 am
Bremang   I don't share your view on Chris as frontman...   Nov 3 2022, 8:26 pm
Cardiff_Giant   why is Chris Shinn butthurt even in the slightest?...   Nov 3 2022, 7:28 am
Badman   The fact none of CCP wrote a single word on The ...   Nov 3 2022, 2:03 pm
Bremang   The fact none of CCP wrote a single word on Th...   Nov 3 2022, 8:24 pm
Cardiff_Giant   after 4 years being in a band there is ZERO excus...   Nov 3 2022, 2:30 pm
gerrycan70   Axl Rose uses a Teleprompter, and I'd say he...   Nov 3 2022, 8:48 pm
live2cd   All the large artists have a teleprompter present...   Nov 4 2022, 6:44 am
throwing_cheetahs   All the large artists have a teleprompter present...   Nov 5 2022, 7:34 pm
AManIsTadChaylor   Seems you have some deep rooted hate for Chris. ...   Nov 6 2022, 1:39 pm
Waterboy   This is the first time I've ever seen someone...   Nov 7 2022, 4:49 pm
JonSnow   Not the first time I am hearing about Chris and a...   Nov 7 2022, 9:39 pm
Cardiff_Giant   After reading Shinn's interview, it makes the ...   Nov 3 2022, 2:48 pm
Cardiff_Giant   The million dollar question is WHO poked Rolling S...   Nov 3 2022, 3:01 pm
Gertjan   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not t...   Nov 4 2022, 3:57 am
mattyeagles   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not ...   Nov 4 2022, 6:56 am
Bremang   Ed had lyrics to Imagine taped to the floor. Not ...   Nov 4 2022, 3:17 pm
sellingthdrama   Wow, the surprises and dysfunction never end. I l...   Nov 4 2022, 7:06 pm
Bremang   For Christ's sake, stop fucking demanding the...   Nov 4 2022, 9:33 pm
ADAD   Good look at a video of a Bruce Springsteen concer...   Nov 5 2022, 11:37 am
Tips   Good look at a video of a Bruce Springsteen conce...   Nov 5 2022, 12:21 pm
Ecstatic Fanatic   Really interesting read. In a lot of ways it’s not...   Nov 5 2022, 11:20 pm
Pingfah   One question, Chris says the orignal plan was jus...   Nov 6 2022, 5:00 am
dangum   Did any of these re-records end up bring used anyw...   Nov 6 2022, 12:20 am
SuperHans   Did any of these re-records end up bring used any...   Nov 6 2022, 2:48 am
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mymrnngjckt   Chris Shinn appears to be the only honest member o...   Nov 7 2022, 11:40 am
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mattyeagles   To me, nothing appears to be a lie or made up. H...   Nov 7 2022, 1:34 pm
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mattyeagles   What does his length of time with the band or the...   Nov 7 2022, 1:54 pm
mattyeagles   I think the length of time that the band was toge...   Nov 7 2022, 1:56 pm
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